Shane's racking "trick"

Btw

Obvious evidence that a guy is reading (but not necessarily rigging) the rack is when in spite of having success on the break, you see him constantly switching sides.
 
Not sure what the exact rule set was/is, but general rules for racking state that all balls must be racked as tightly as possible. Purposely creating gaps definitely violates the rule....or the spirit of the rule.

Not being an anus about it, just saying. And it can be done when opponent racks too but at least the breaker can read the rack. Maybe a bunch of Az'ers can volunteer to be official rackers for the next one. Magic rack or neutral rackers will prob be the future.
 
Break and run 19% through day 5 in 2014. Break and run 21% in 2013.

Roughly as many break and run racks as last year when Niels reached the final day.

Sour grapes to me.
 
Its WAY OVER BLOWN!

spartan said:
Thanks arps
Wow that is an exposé
I agree with Niels "Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break" and neutral racker also
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Justin Hall came back from way down, Imrad did too, look at all the hill-hill games. Shane works on his break and its as good as it gets, the best.

I don't care who racks for this guy he going to make balls and run out. You want to stop that, don't let him come to the table.
 
Yep! You got it right!

Txstang1 said:
just heard the commentator say that the other day, shane was practicing his break over and over and over. He also said, shane said one day a week his practices only his break for 5 hours. FIVE HOURS ! who does that ?


so is it rack tricks/mechanics or is it a lot of hard work ? probably both
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I watched him do this in Vegas for TWO HOURS!!! That's way he has such a GREAT break and deserves the results he gets.
 
Where is this happening???

buckshotshoey said:
I figured it would happen...just not out of Shane. I started a thread about rack mechanics and got very few responses. He probably wasn't the only one though. And....maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. Have to see it for myself I guess. If he was....then this is to Shane.......SHAME ON YOU. You can win without this crap.
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The breaker only wins half the games.., so is the breaker only cheating have the time??
I don't think that rack fixing has any effect when all players check the rack.
 
peppersauce said:
I don't understand the problem. If you're playing rack your own and get mad because the other guy knows how to rack, break, and make balls and you don't...learn. Practice. I'm in the camp of ppl who think both racking and breaking are a skill. If I'm playing rack your own you better believe I'm giving myself a rack I can make balls. Who would just squeeze the balls together, lift the rack, and take a chance if you know better?
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West Point 1987 said:
Didn't Niels and every other player get to rack their own, too? So...why didn't he tickle the one or pattern rack or loosen the back three? If tickling the one is a foul, why wasn't it called? Just like when Corey Deuel comes up with a series of different patterns and soft breaks leaving a three or four ball wired for a shortcut 9 our of 10 times everybody else wants to cry foul...I call it genius on an even playing field. Go spend 5 hours figuring out the break like Shane or Corey or Dechaine and even the odds--or quit whining. Barry makes the rules; if he wants rack your own or a neutral racker, that's the game. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
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"If you don't condone cheating, if you get annoyed at being cheated, and if you don't resort to cheating yourself, you're a whiner. End of story"

No wonder pool is in the gutter with attitudes like this.
 
I can believe Niels here. After SVB tried to steal a game and the match from J. Morra 2 years ago, I don't put anything past SVB anymore.

arps said:
I just read this from Niels Feijen's Facebook page:

"Sorry but i can't help it to write something negative about the us open(rack mechanics) championships. I just watched Shane beat dennis on centre court and he made the corner ball 9 out of 11 times, where the entire field was happy to get a ball down on that table. When you rack you're not allowed to touch the rack once you lift it so he touches the 1 ball when the rack is still on, creates gaps and gets the corner ball. Genius trick and an absolute monster player but i truly feel this break format with rack your own is chewed out, old school and done with!! It was created to speed up the game/racking and now it's whoever knows the most tricks/cheats gets the edge. Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break...It's no rocket science. Same rack for everybody.
My prediction, Shane will win his third title in a row, he's playing great and knows the tricks."
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Yep! You got it right!

sjm said:
Break and run 19% through day 5 in 2014. Break and run 21% in 2013.

Roughly as many break and run racks as last year when Niels reached the final day.

Sour grapes to me.
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Not just sour grapes, but to much whining about the rack!!! It aint changing nothing, The same guys in the finial group as always.., the best players, shooters, position players, safety players and a few guys with exceptional breaks, SVB and Busty.
 
SakuJack said:
"If you don't condone cheating, if you get annoyed at being cheated, and if you don't resort to cheating yourself, you're a whiner. End of story"

No wonder pool is in the gutter with attitudes like this.
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+1


peppersauce said:
Lol, seriously dude? First, you know nothing about me so don't quote me and indirectly accuse me of cheating people. I'm one of the most honest people you will meet on and off the table. I've called fouls on myself in cash games that no one else saw and cost me the set. Same in tournament play.
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Calm down. If you read what he is saying, he is not attacking you personally and saying you are a cheat. He disagrees with your point of view , that's all
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spartan said:
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Calm down. If you read what he is saying, he is not attacking you personally and saying you are a cheat. He disagrees with your point of view , that's all
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As do I. This is the WPA rule about racking.....

**2.2 Nine Ball Rack**The object balls are racked as tightly as possible in a diamond shape, with the one ball at the apex of the diamond and on the foot spot and the nine ball in the middle of the diamond. The other balls will be placed in the diamond without purposeful or intentional pattern.*

AS TIGHTLY AS POSSIBLE. That does not mean a person can intentionally put little gaps in the rack to give yourself an advantage. That is a clear violation of the rule....or at least a violation of the spirit of the rule. Racking is a skillset? So Is pickpocketing. Doesn't make it right.

Now before anybody blows up and says I'm calling somebody a cheat, I'm not. Just disagree with the point of view. Shane
religiously practices his break. I don't think he needs any tricks to break well. Simple as that.
 
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So Niels is saying SVB always win in the US and not world because he can do this trick after it is racked and he is not allowed to do that anywhere else? Any other players do that? I can't watch the Open so I don't know.
 
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