Flakeandrun
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That's hilarious haha
Sharking
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Flakeandrun
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That is crazy! Especially if your opponent organized the whole thing
(But in all seriousness, holy shit!)
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
So a few months ago I got in a small weekly $15 8 ball tournament. The opponent broke and the table was just absolute dog shit, clusters everywhere, such a mess... most of my balls had no pocket. So I get to the table and play a safe, bunt balls to favorable locations and leave him hero shots or stuff with built in scratches, kicks, shots where you can't get shape, etc. I never try to make a safe look obvious. After about 4-5 trips the the table I can finally run out. After I make 4 balls and am set up on my shot, down in position, ready to finish the pattern, paused at the CB ready to go for final back swing this guy loudly says "Don't you know how to draw a ball?"
In my head I was like WTF? So I stand up, give him a "who the hell is this guy" confused look. Like I make eye contact and pull my head back dumfounded like I can't believe what I just heard. I can't remember word for word but I laid it on thick like he must not understand the finer points of 8 ball.
"Well, 8 ball can sometimes be a strategic game, it's not about running balls, it's never a good idea to just shoot your balls off and paint yourself into a corner... I like to get my balls makeable before I start running them willy nilly. You saw how bad the balls were laid out... heck you took the stripes, you saw how bad solids were. I'm working on getting my balls in a better position. I'd rather fix my problems and let the other guy take low percentage shots I leave him until I'm ready to run out. Why would I draw the ball? I'm moving my balls around and leaving you fliers. This isn't 9 ball, 8 ball is a strategic game, sometimes it's like chess if you want to win." And on and on for about a minute. No raised voice just a deadpan monotone fast talking monologue.
He didn't say another word to me the rest of the set, which was good. Oh, and when I shot the 8 Ball I made sure to do a really nice floater draw that went a full table length off of 3 rails.
I'm normally not like that but when some nit hollers "Don't you know how to draw?" when you're set to take your final stroke it's best to address the issue then and there before shooting. Dude just pissed me off. I think my mile a minute spiel actually ended up sharking him. He maybe made 2 balls over the next 2 games.
For some reason he was a sore loser and didn't even shake my hand.
Pool is half skill and strategy and half people watching and psychological warfare. The psychological warfare is played on the table in a respectable manner. Apparently not getting any half ass reasonable shot for 5 turns can make some people's head hurt. It's even better if you can make it look like an accident or like it was something sloppy/bad roll etc. Sometimes it can be more fun pissing with someone, but only if they start it!
In my head I was like WTF? So I stand up, give him a "who the hell is this guy" confused look. Like I make eye contact and pull my head back dumfounded like I can't believe what I just heard. I can't remember word for word but I laid it on thick like he must not understand the finer points of 8 ball.
"Well, 8 ball can sometimes be a strategic game, it's not about running balls, it's never a good idea to just shoot your balls off and paint yourself into a corner... I like to get my balls makeable before I start running them willy nilly. You saw how bad the balls were laid out... heck you took the stripes, you saw how bad solids were. I'm working on getting my balls in a better position. I'd rather fix my problems and let the other guy take low percentage shots I leave him until I'm ready to run out. Why would I draw the ball? I'm moving my balls around and leaving you fliers. This isn't 9 ball, 8 ball is a strategic game, sometimes it's like chess if you want to win." And on and on for about a minute. No raised voice just a deadpan monotone fast talking monologue.
He didn't say another word to me the rest of the set, which was good. Oh, and when I shot the 8 Ball I made sure to do a really nice floater draw that went a full table length off of 3 rails.
I'm normally not like that but when some nit hollers "Don't you know how to draw?" when you're set to take your final stroke it's best to address the issue then and there before shooting. Dude just pissed me off. I think my mile a minute spiel actually ended up sharking him. He maybe made 2 balls over the next 2 games.
For some reason he was a sore loser and didn't even shake my hand.
Pool is half skill and strategy and half people watching and psychological warfare. The psychological warfare is played on the table in a respectable manner. Apparently not getting any half ass reasonable shot for 5 turns can make some people's head hurt. It's even better if you can make it look like an accident or like it was something sloppy/bad roll etc. Sometimes it can be more fun pissing with someone, but only if they start it!
Your Joss.... Watch the Karate Kid again and repeat to yourself ... No Mercy...
LOL!
Flakeandrun
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Not sure if anyone here watches much Chinese pool, but the Duya was an amazing example of a psychological battle on the table, culminating in Xue Zhengqi bottling a 7ball that cost him 1.2million rmb - Chu Bingjie had no run of the balls, and as soon as I mentioned it wouldn't make the full 40 racks to a friend, he had three break and runs in a row. Pulling himself out of the swamp and bringing the fire. An amazing final.So a few months ago I got in a small weekly $15 8 ball tournament. The opponent broke and the table was just absolute dog shit, clusters everywhere, such a mess... most of my balls had no pocket. So I get to the table and play a safe, bunt balls to favorable locations and leave him hero shots or stuff with built in scratches, kicks, shots where you can't get shape, etc. I never try to make a safe look obvious. After about 4-5 trips the the table I can finally run out. After I make 4 balls and am set up on my shot, down in position, ready to finish the pattern, paused at the CB ready to go for final back swing this guy loudly says "Don't you know how to draw a ball?"
In my head I was like WTF? So I stand up, give him a "who the hell is this guy" confused look. Like I make eye contact and pull my head back dumfounded like I can't believe what I just heard. I can't remember word for word but I laid it on thick like he must not understand the finer points of 8 ball.
"Well, 8 ball can sometimes be a strategic game, it's not about running balls, it's never a good idea to just shoot your balls off and paint yourself into a corner... I like to get my balls makeable before I start running them willy nilly. You saw how bad the balls were laid out... heck you took the stripes, you saw how bad solids were. I'm working on getting my balls in a better position. I'd rather fix my problems and let the other guy take low percentage shots I leave him until I'm ready to run out. Why would I draw the ball? I'm moving my balls around and leaving you fliers. This isn't 9 ball, 8 ball is a strategic game, sometimes it's like chess if you want to win." And on and on for about a minute. No raised voice just a deadpan monotone fast talking monologue.
He didn't say another word to me the rest of the set, which was good. Oh, and when I shot the 8 Ball I made sure to do a really nice floater draw that went a full table length off of 3 rails.
I'm normally not like that but when some nit hollers "Don't you know how to draw?" when you're set to take your final stroke it's best to address the issue then and there before shooting. Dude just pissed me off. I think my mile a minute spiel actually ended up sharking him. He maybe made 2 balls over the next 2 games.
For some reason he was a sore loser and didn't even shake my hand.
I much prefer the battles on the table, as opposed to the nonsense spiel that gets spouted from the rail. As I mentioned earlier, it was very interesting to me when I first started to consider the psychology of 'sharking' and how to work a favorable spot from a visiting pro who comes to play Chinese-8 ball here. The way he discusses himself, the game, the way he carries himself... the level of acting. It's an art for sure.
What I am certain of, is don't touch my F stuff!
It's amazing how deep some players are willing to go in order to shark their opponent, but ordering a rocket strike... sheesh!
SlateMan
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Not in a pool hall but I used to "shark" some of my co-workers. I worked in a night club as a bouncer. I was not a muscle head, but rather a big guy who could hold my own but all natural, including the beer gut. We had a few guys that were steroid grown gym rats. They were all pretty great people (except for the one doing life for having his new wife kill his ex-girlfriend- but that is a story for another day) but they would walk around all pumped up like they had invisible basketballs under each arm. I learned that ever few weeks all you had to say was something along the lines of "Your looking a bit thinner, did you take the week off?" and they would be in a down mood all night.
A little over 20 years ago, when I arrived in Tri Cities WA, I met a real piece of work. His culture was that sharking is part of the game. My culture promotes Respect for the game. I was new to the scene so adopted a passive response for his clumsy distraction routine.
His routine was funny to watch at times. Unscrew of the cue was his go to move. One evening I was feeling uh mischief so I let him run the gauntlet of moves. Simply waiting after each move had him
Unscrew
Case the cue
Re arrange the chairs
Put on his jacket
Sling the cue case
Stand at the door with one hand on the knob but still watching over his shoulder.
It was amusing to say the least. I did change the response on the last occasion that he started a routine when I was down on the 8 ball. I took it to him. Literally.! Got up and told him to, "Take it like a Man!" Well first I asked if he was surrendering as unscrewing the cue was a surrender. His feigned innocence response triggered my, "Well put your cue back together and sit there and take it like a man!" It served to elevate my adrenaline level to Kill.
His routine was funny to watch at times. Unscrew of the cue was his go to move. One evening I was feeling uh mischief so I let him run the gauntlet of moves. Simply waiting after each move had him
Unscrew
Case the cue
Re arrange the chairs
Put on his jacket
Sling the cue case
Stand at the door with one hand on the knob but still watching over his shoulder.
It was amusing to say the least. I did change the response on the last occasion that he started a routine when I was down on the 8 ball. I took it to him. Literally.! Got up and told him to, "Take it like a Man!" Well first I asked if he was surrendering as unscrewing the cue was a surrender. His feigned innocence response triggered my, "Well put your cue back together and sit there and take it like a man!" It served to elevate my adrenaline level to Kill.
I think the best sharking I ever saw, if I'm remembering it right was not
on a pool table, but by a basketball court during an ASU basketball game.
Behind the backboard of the opposing free throw... the "curtain of distraction"
featured Michael Phelps donning gold medals in a speedo doing the freestyle
stroke. Hilarious video to check out.
td
on a pool table, but by a basketball court during an ASU basketball game.
Behind the backboard of the opposing free throw... the "curtain of distraction"
featured Michael Phelps donning gold medals in a speedo doing the freestyle
stroke. Hilarious video to check out.
td
The best sharking looks like this:
The fact you let the guy know it bothered you was a win right there for him!Ah the Shark moves. I studied under Racetrack Rick.
The con is sewer move is so subtle.....they don't realize it until it's a done deal.
I liken the study of Shark moves to Martial arts.
Religion must accompany the knowledge.
The clumsy attempts at distraction serve as inspiration. If you wanna see my best game......just Piss Me Off. ! No Really. A Self Rightious attitude is hard to beat.
My interactions with clumsy attempts start with a close personal conversation. My presentation goes like this, "You are going to quit this shit. In the event that you don't, this will get Much Louder. I will make A Scene of it. Your choice."
My religious situation doesn't allow me to employ moves. Well unless they Earn it.
Story rerun:
It was the 3 player team event in Pendleton. 2 day event that had us playing the home team in the finals.
The owner had made it clear in an earlier game that she considered shark moves, uh fair play. I was in a tough situation and the ladies room door was directly in front of my shot. The area was cramped. As I got down to shoot, she sauntered to the ladies room.....and stopped. When I arose from the shot, I politely explained that I was distracted (by her standing inches from the table). She just smiled and refused to move along. Her move worked to perfect in that I made the shot but missed the shape. Racetrack knowledge is that, a perfect shark makes the shot but blows shape.
So with that uh Ground Rules experience, I don't feel guilty for using my knowledge to shake hands with my own team mate as their clean up hitter walked around the table to shoot the tournament winning 8 ball. It was hill/hill. The presentation was timed perfectly to catch the peripheral vision as he approached a simple shot on the 8. He missed the pocket by a diamond.
Stan released my hand and slapped me on the back hard enough to knock me half way to the table. It wasn't a big payday....seems like 320 ish each. I got the
Ii don't understand your position.
I never lost control of myself Or the situation.
I wear rhe shirt with Tiger on the front and Jack Rabbit on the back.
I prefer Distracked I just let them know that their behavior during My Time is not going to be a branch they should take.
Last night at leagues is my uh ????? One time in Band Camp story.
Getting Un Screwed and Jedi mind control.
A fellow Carpenter unscrewed as I was on the final leg of a very precision requirement.
My religion requirement had me demonstrate. Well the youngster was there as the only witness from their team as Craig had split. Ooops starting to Ramble.
Taking the time to do it right, is my sub title.
I politely approached and inquired as to his intentions. A quick and simple direct explanation of rule set I am familiar with, indicates a surrender by any action indicating, "its over".
Hmmm headscratch so anyway his response of ignorance to the "law" was accepted and agreed mint of just resume as Gentlemanly and cordial.
He eventually surrender Ed.
Hopefully the Youngster learned a Good thing. We won the night 10-8. My Split with Craig was a fine competition. The entire night was a success. Any Landing you can walk away from.....is a good one.
That's Not what You typed, You basically threatened the guy by saying You'll spew Your comments 'Louder & Louder'!Ii don't understand your position.
I never lost control of myself Or the situation.
I wear rhe shirt with Tiger on the front and Jack Rabbit on the back.
I prefer Distracked I just let them know that their behavior during My Time is not going to be a branch they should take.
Last night at leagues is my uh ????? One time in Band Camp story.
Getting Un Screwed and Jedi mind control.
A fellow Carpenter unscrewed as I was on the final leg of a very precision requirement.
My religion requirement had me demonstrate. Well the youngster was there as the only witness from their team as Craig had split. Ooops starting to Ramble.
Taking the time to do it right, is my sub title.
I politely approached and inquired as to his intentions. A quick and simple direct explanation of rule set I am familiar with, indicates a surrender by any action indicating, "its over".
Hmmm headscratch so anyway his response of ignorance to the "law" was accepted and agreed mint of just resume as Gentlemanly and cordial.
He eventually surrender Ed.
On the other hand, if the guy's "Shark' was so weak you snapped on it right away, he was an amateur anyway!
Wetting the chalk isn't a shark, it is sabotaging equipment. I have had it happen a couple times long ago. House chalk so I just impressed on them that doing it again would result in swift action. I didn't care to handle something with somebody else's spit on it even long before aids. If it was my own chalk back in that time my reaction would have been swift and violent. Playing with house cues I have had people swap cues on me when I wasn't at the table. Disappointed them, I knew the first time I bent over to shoot if not before.
My favorite sharks involve a lady dropping tits out. Had it happen twice. I was playing a man, got straight in on the money ball, and the woman with him leaned over the pocket and dropped her tits out. I said, "Not bad, but I have seen better" and shot the ball in with a perfectly controlled stop shot. She was pissed!
Sharking when seriously gambling or in a tournament is chickenshit and I have always dealt with it however I was in the mood. I might ignore it, have a come to Jesus discussion, or fight fire with fire. Most that shark overdo things. Waiting until the perfect moment then sharking them once is far better than constant sharking they can be prepared for. A favorite for real lowlifes was cutting a silent deadly fart that left a haze in the air then playing shape so they would be in the middle of it when I "missed"! The best part is like the three gotchas they are always thinking about it happening again!
Hu
My favorite sharks involve a lady dropping tits out. Had it happen twice. I was playing a man, got straight in on the money ball, and the woman with him leaned over the pocket and dropped her tits out. I said, "Not bad, but I have seen better" and shot the ball in with a perfectly controlled stop shot. She was pissed!
Sharking when seriously gambling or in a tournament is chickenshit and I have always dealt with it however I was in the mood. I might ignore it, have a come to Jesus discussion, or fight fire with fire. Most that shark overdo things. Waiting until the perfect moment then sharking them once is far better than constant sharking they can be prepared for. A favorite for real lowlifes was cutting a silent deadly fart that left a haze in the air then playing shape so they would be in the middle of it when I "missed"! The best part is like the three gotchas they are always thinking about it happening again!
Hu
There is a difference between "Threat " and "Promise ", I Promise to do my best to do my duty to God and my Country.
I speak clearly and directly. If you feel threatened....???? Perhaps you had better back the truck up. I haven't had to use my "Rabbit " gear in a long time. Perhaps it's the Live in Fame Or go down in Flames. As uh what was the movie about Crazy?
Bob Lilly said, "It ain't the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog. "
I speak clearly and directly. If you feel threatened....???? Perhaps you had better back the truck up.
I haven't had to use my "Rabbit " gear in a long time. Perhaps it's the Live in Fame Or go down in Flames. As uh what was the movie about Crazy?Bob Lilly said, "It ain't the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog. "
As I took the money from his hand, I thanked her. Probably even suggested, "Again? Yah wanna go again?"
I like to look. Cole knocking the back off the pocket with the money ball as he locked eyes with the waitress was Priceless.
Once a month on Saturday night we would play 9 ball scotch doubles, race to 5 for $5.00 a set and a drink. I have a juice they drink beer and and shots.
Two of the guys would bring their wife and girlfriend (both extremely hot ) the all natural girl next door type. No make up needed.
After some drinks the women would appear in front of the pocket we were shooting at at open their tops flashing their nipples or moon us.
You can drop a nuke and it doesn’t phase me. The more you shark me the more I want to drill you like a Texas oil rig.
Two of the guys would bring their wife and girlfriend (both extremely hot ) the all natural girl next door type. No make up needed.
After some drinks the women would appear in front of the pocket we were shooting at at open their tops flashing their nipples or moon us.
You can drop a nuke and it doesn’t phase me. The more you shark me the more I want to drill you like a Texas oil rig.
As I took the money from his hand, I thanked her. Probably even suggested, "Again? Yah wanna go again?"
Cole knocking the back off the pocket with the money ball as he locked eyes with the waitress was Priceless.
At least twice I busted somebody and they wanted to put up the woman with them. One time the couple claimed to be husband and wife. The man wanted to put up the woman against fifty dollars. By that point I knew he had no chance of winning. When I refused the bet they both got very mad, I think she was madder than he was! Crazy times.
Hu