Shaw Breaks As Good As SVB

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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I believe J. Shaw has every bit as good of a 9 ball and 10 ball break now as SVB. He has found that sweet spot. TD's need to stop letting everyone rack the balls in the same order every rack, or 10B will be broke also. 10B is fast becoming the joke like 9B.

The answer? Play the game Efern, Busti, Alex, Parcica use to play...15 ball rotation. IMO. Johnnyt
 
I also agree, if using the magic or accu rack, why rack your own? That in itself (opponent racking) would stop it.


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EL'nino said:
Yeah..... you keep believing that:cool:
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I still think Shane's break is the most consistent, but the gap is not as wide as it was say 5 years ago.

In other words, he can't get by on just his break anymore. If he beats Dennis next month, he won't be because he outbroke him.
 
I don't think anyone gets the action (10 ball) while controlling the one ball and the cue ball as good SVB does. Well, not as consistent anyway.
 
Johnnyt said:
I believe J. Shaw has every bit as good of a 9 ball and 10 ball break now as SVB. He has found that sweet spot. TD's need to stop letting everyone rack the balls in the same order every rack, or 10B will be broke also. 10B is fast becoming the joke like 9B.

The answer? Play the game Efern, Busti, Alex, Parcica use to play...15 ball rotation. IMO. Johnnyt
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Hey, Johnny. lol
You went from claiming Shaw has just as good a break as SVB, to providing an
answer to the potential demise of 10 ball. :grin-square:

Nothing more--just that. :) Stay warm.:smile:
 
BeiberLvr said:
I still think Shane's break is the most consistent, but the gap is not as wide as it was say 5 years ago.

In other words, he can't get by on just his break anymore. If he beats Dennis next month, he won't be because he outbroke him.
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I agree.... but he needs to out break Dennis cuz he ain't gonna out play him. But I do think he will still out break him.
 
That's why in the previous CSI invitational event? Both BNR in the 40%+ playing 10b.

Not sure how Shaw got blasted by Justin in the big race. Shane lost to the Russian guy too. That was on a gaffed table with special break rules i believe.
 
I've made this comment before, but I seldom get tired of repeating myself.

Today's players play so good, the break is becoming more and more important. And unfortunately, a successful break still relies on some luck / good fortune.

Watching today's top players run an open rack has become so easy for them, it's no fun to watch. For example, watch Shaw or Morris while they're going through an open rack, they are so bored and unchallenged, they're not even trying.

Anyway, I believe the future needs to move in the direction of tighter pockets or larger tables, or both. And I agree, maybe 15 ball rotation is the answer.

For sure though, I no longer enjoy watching the pros play 9 ball or 10 ball. As of now, the only game I have an interest in watching anymore is one pocket. And even in one pocket, there are so many 8 and outs, that game is beginning to lose its luster.
 
EL'nino said:
I agree.... but he needs to out break Dennis cuz he ain't gonna out play him. But I do think he will still out break him.
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Oh really? Tell me what happened at the world 9 ball then. Shane has had Dennis' number for a while now. If you think putting a 7 or 8 on somebody is just about breaking you are mistaken. Shane can and has outplayed Dennis and has a much better mentality than Dennis. I have met Dennis and the guy has the personality of a porcupine. In fact he probably has the most negative attitude out of all the pros I have met, which is why he has gone on tilt several times playing Shane.
 
Drop The Rock said:
Oh really? Tell me what happened at the world 9 ball then. Shane has had Dennis' number for a while now. If you think putting a 7 or 8 on somebody is just about breaking you are mistaken. Shane can and has outplayed Dennis and has a much better mentality than Dennis. I have met Dennis and the guy has the personality of a porcupine. In fact he probably has the most negative attitude out of all the pros I have met, which is why he has gone on tilt several times playing Shane.
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Shane does everything as good or better than Dennis... Dennis gives up sooner.
 
I dont understand?

fjk said:
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Watching today's top players run an open rack has become so easy for them, it's no fun to watch. For example, watch Shaw or Morris while they're going through an open rack, they are so bored and unchallenged, they're not even trying.

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For sure though, I no longer enjoy watching the pros play 9 ball or 10 ball. .
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I don't understand? If Shaw and Morris are so good at running out and its so easy that their bored then they should both be winning more? Or are you saying that every top player can run put with ease?

I keep hearing people say that they don't want to watch 9 Ball or 10 Ball, but they are willing to sit and watch a guy run 100 balls in Straight Pool?

I Love One Pocket, but I've seen Morris dog so many outs and Shaw do the same that I know theres more to the game then just shooting.
 
What does that mean?

BeiberLvr said:
I still think Shane's break is the most consistent, but the gap is not as wide as it was say 5 years ago.

In other words, he can't get by on just his break anymore. If he beats Dennis next month, he won't be because he outbroke him.
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He never just got by on his break. Shane can play. His break is the beast because he worked on it, but his game is the best because he worked on that too.
 
King T said:
I don't understand? If Shaw and Morris are so good at running out and its so easy that their bored then they should both be winning more? Or are you saying that every top player can run put with ease?

I keep hearing people say that they don't want to watch 9 Ball or 10 Ball, but they are willing to sit and watch a guy run 100 balls in Straight Pool?

I Love One Pocket, but I've seen Morris dog so many outs and Shaw do the same that I know theres more to the game then just shooting.
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They both win quite a bit. To me, IMHO, it appears the difference within the pro ranks is concentration and mental toughness. They all can do whatever they want on a pool table, it just comes down to concentration (who can do it the most consistently).

I believe if the equipment played tougher, we would see skill differentiate more matches than "a few good rolls" or a "few fortunate breaks" or who happened to have their head screwed on the tightest for that particular match.
 
Drop The Rock said:
Oh really? Tell me what happened at the world 9 ball then. Shane has had Dennis' number for a while now. If you think putting a 7 or 8 on somebody is just about breaking you are mistaken. Shane can and has outplayed Dennis and has a much better mentality than Dennis. I have met Dennis and the guy has the personality of a porcupine. In fact he probably has the most negative attitude out of all the pros I have met, which is why he has gone on tilt several times playing Shane.
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Because he's being completely destroyed at the break.
 
The problem really is the magic rack. It works too well. In order to put some limitations in the pros' breaking you have to bring back a little of the randomness of the traditional rack.
 
BeiberLvr said:
I still think Shane's break is the most consistent, but the gap is not as wide as it was say 5 years ago.

In other words, he can't get by on just his break anymore. If he beats Dennis next month, he won't be because he outbroke him.
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If you think he wont outbreak Dennis I will make a $100 bet that Shane does out break Dennis. We can bet on how many dry breaks each player has. The player that has the least amount of dry breaks wins. Or we can bet which player breaks and runs more racks throughout the match no matter which player wins the match.
 
9ball mike said:
If you think he wont outbreak Dennis I will make a $100 bet that Shane does out break Dennis. We can bet on how many dry breaks each player has. The player that has the least amount of dry breaks wins. Or we can bet which player breaks and runs more racks throughout the match no matter which player wins the match.
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Did I say Shane wouldn't outbreak Dennis? No.

I said if he wants to win, he MUST outbreak Dennis.

Read sloooooower.
 
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