Shots, Moves and Strategies and Winning One Pocket
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They are still readily available, you just have to do a small bit of asking.
Just didn't want you to think you were going to get 200 a book for them.
Just didn't want you to think you were going to get 200 a book for them.
Ok thanks. Id like to get 400 for one of them and the second one is free. jk
I was hoping to get 400 for both, is that too much? If it is, can you please point me to where I can get them cheaper.
Thanks.
wow he sure did knock your sale. I would pay 400 if they were in pretty good condition. My copies are brand spankin new, Eddie Robin signed them both. I bought both of mine for around 500 off of ebay from Eddie himself about 4 years ago. So 400 is reasonable for sure!
about right
Looks about right...about $200 for Winning One Pocket is the going rate
Looks about right...about $200 for Winning One Pocket is the going rate
Not knocking his sale at all. It didn't ward you away from saying it was reasonable.
Was trying to give him info on what the going rate was so if he put up something like 600 for both that he probably wouldn't get that much.
Was trying to give him info on what the going rate was so if he put up something like 600 for both that he probably wouldn't get that much.
asiasdad
Banned
Straight from Eddie Robin:
Continually Increasing Prices Reversed: You may've noticed prices for my books increasing with most of my auctions between 1998 and 2005
and that others have auctioned less-than-perfect or much used, worn, or damaged books for as much as $300, $500,
and even higher in that same period. Despite their continual increase in value over those years,
in effort to prevent their cost from reaching ridiculous prices,
I'd decided to sell remaining books at somewhat lower prices from that point on.
from this link:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Robins-Winning-...in_0?hash=item439a620c41&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
I'm going to interject my 2 cents on this subject.
In 2005 I took a friend to Eddies' apartment in Las Vegas, who purchased
every book Eddie had left, according to Eddie. I personally shipped 3
boxes of books to this man in Oregon from Nevada. These included
allegedly the last known lizard set, the last of the bonded leather sets
(the ones with the stamped signatures in them),
and a full box representing the "last" of the plain ones.
He even purchased some other rarities, such as a book still in the shipping
box that Eddie sent to himself as a poor mans copywrite. In thanks for me making the
introduction, I was given a Position Play book by the man from Oregon that Eddie had
previously refused to sell as the inside front pages were glued in upside down at the publisher.
My point in all this is that I find it quite
curious how all these W1P and SMS books keep showing up on ebay
from Eddie direct in "brand new" condition
after this man from Oregon purportedly bought the last in existence ?
Can anyone else smell re-prints ?
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asiasdad
Banned
The winning one pocket is a little beat up. But it is the first edition.
From a book collectors point of view, the first edition is the more
collectable (and there is no risk of it being a re-print) Do you have the erata sheets ?
I must not as I dont know what that is. This book has a few flaws though, just on the cover. Can I and should I see into getting those fixed?
I only indicated that there were not many W1Ps left!
Have some recall of that sale. Have not yet found exact date of sale. If you thought there was another printing since then why didn't you simply ask me? It was around May of 2005 I believe because I recall the weather--it was a warm day. If you are insinuating that there was an additional printing of any of those books since then you are mistaken. It so happens that there was a second printing of one of my books, but it was previous to that point in time. I originally had thousands of W1P, SMS, and P3C books in their various editions but only W1P and SMS in regular editions remain (very few of the W1Ps).
I simply indicated to you that there were not many W1Ps left And there were not and there ain't!!! and might have indicated as to being fully out of P3C books as well! I've sold out of P3C books since around that point in time and maybe that is the cause of what I will consider a misunderstanding (for it well might have been for the people involved seemed quite nice). I've recently been lucky enough to get my hands on another excellent condition P3C book just a week ago and that sort of thing has happened from time to time over the years.
If I was sufficiently wealthy I'd hire someone to do nothing but straighten out all the misinformation and innuendo can find re myself and my books on the internet, billiard mags, and billiard forums! If ya think our government contains a great many unethical people, just take a good look at our own group (the pocket billiard world)! However, I have enough people taking shots at me without exposing more such individuals.
Eddie Robin
Have some recall of that sale. Have not yet found exact date of sale. If you thought there was another printing since then why didn't you simply ask me? It was around May of 2005 I believe because I recall the weather--it was a warm day. If you are insinuating that there was an additional printing of any of those books since then you are mistaken. It so happens that there was a second printing of one of my books, but it was previous to that point in time. I originally had thousands of W1P, SMS, and P3C books in their various editions but only W1P and SMS in regular editions remain (very few of the W1Ps).
I simply indicated to you that there were not many W1Ps left And there were not and there ain't!!! and might have indicated as to being fully out of P3C books as well! I've sold out of P3C books since around that point in time and maybe that is the cause of what I will consider a misunderstanding (for it well might have been for the people involved seemed quite nice). I've recently been lucky enough to get my hands on another excellent condition P3C book just a week ago and that sort of thing has happened from time to time over the years.
If I was sufficiently wealthy I'd hire someone to do nothing but straighten out all the misinformation and innuendo can find re myself and my books on the internet, billiard mags, and billiard forums! If ya think our government contains a great many unethical people, just take a good look at our own group (the pocket billiard world)! However, I have enough people taking shots at me without exposing more such individuals.
Eddie Robin
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Have some recall of that sale. Have not yet found exact date of sale. If you thought there was another printing since then why didn't you simply ask me? It was around May of 2005 I believe because I recall the weather--it was a warm day. If you are insinuating that there was an additional printing of any of those books since then you are mistaken. It so happens that there was a second printing of one of my books, but it was previous to that point in time. I originally had thousands of W1P, SMS, and P3C books in their various editions but only W1P and SMS in regular editions remain (very few of the W1Ps).
I simply indicated to you that there were not many W1Ps left And there were not and there ain't!!! and might have indicated as to being fully out of P3C books as well! I've sold out of P3C books since around that point in time and maybe that is the cause of what I will consider a misunderstanding (for it well might have been for the people involved seemed quite nice). I've recently been lucky enough to get my hands on another excellent condition P3C book just a week ago and that sort of thing has happened from time to time over the years.
If I was sufficiently wealthy I'd hire someone to do nothing but straighten out all the misinformation and innuendo can find re myself and my books on the internet, billiard mags, and billiard forums! If ya think our government contains a great many unethical people, just take a good look at our own group (the pocket billiard world)! However, I have enough people taking shots at me without exposing more such individuals.
Eddie Robin
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I have dealt with Mr.Eddie Robin as a Buyer and a Seller on ebay under the name of watsonwrap, I find him one of the most honest and fair person.
Bob Watson
Bob Watson
Just realized previously put in date of May 1995 instead of 2005. Also realize that it was around that date that i'd run out of P3C books, W1P signature editions, and "lizards" BUT NOT OUT OF REGULAR-EDITION W1Ps OR SMSs. Believe I now understand the beef! Customer gets plenty of my books figuring on selling them for big bucks after I'm all out and then sees I'm still not fully out of all editions and sees me keeping the cost from getting ridiculously high (various editions of my books have sold for as much as $500 or higher). Those actually books WILL go way up in value when I'm completely out of all editions and if I'm still unable to get back into the business. Another possibility is how some having my first edition get upset from seeing me explain to my readers how the first edition was full of errors due to mishap on printer conversion program and how my second edition of that book is the much expanded and fully corrected version. Whereas collectors prefer first editions, pool players wanting to learn naturally prefer the second edition. Many have complained to me about this but my main responsibility is to the readers.
asiasdad
Banned
The Oregon buyer in my presence was told by you that what he bought
was all that was left. He would have written you a much larger reader
had he known there was more "inventory" at that time available, and
I would have been mailing several more boxes northbound that week.
The beef is in fact mis-representation to this man, as he paid more
for those books in quanity than what you are selling them for
presently on ebay.
It was my reputation that put him in your presence, and it is my
reputation that took a black eye.
the beef is legitimate.
Do not email me anymore.
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Danny Hepler,
Baloney! At that point in time the market for the Winning one-pocket books was around $225. Are you claiming he paid more than $185 per W1P? Believe I still have paperwork somewhere in storage from May 2005, but since you are bringing this up here on this AZbilliard forum, you should be the one to go to the time and trouble to simply produce the list of prices he had paid.
The screw-up I made was in not correcting anything you told your friend each time you walked into the dining room area where he was because you said a few wrong things right in front of me. I recall biting my lip upon hearing how you altered explanations I gave you when in the room with all the books. I never told you the things you are writing here.
I has guessed you made alterations in what was said between us so you could get your credit and your piece for arranging the deal. Guess I should have jumped in and embarrassed the hell out of you right then and there but simply remained undecided and said nothing more. There were two periods in time when my inventory on everything was quite low from having my books in hock but the first time was much earlier and the other much later.
I was arguing with myself on whether to butt in or not. I just couldn't bring myself to embarrass you after you were so nice to me on three separate occasions. Now you are making it seem like I was the one who said I was sold out of everything. Ridiculous! I guess you got heat from your associate over this matter because it was believed, as I sincerely believed, that I'd have run out of the W1Ps by now and he became impatient to sell them for profit. Just have him call or email me for I don't want unhappy customer if I can help it.
Eddie Robin
I still think it possible, as I thought back then, that you simply misunderstood. It was the lizards, the P3Cs, and the w1P signature editions that I was either fully out of or rualmost fully out of. I was simply very low on the W1P books and had plenty of the SMS books at that time and they were in the boxes you saw in back room. What made you wait four years for this bull? I've never gone more than three weeks without having at least one book on eBay auction; you knew all about that.
Have your friend contact me and produce the paperwork for I'd like to buy back much of what he has for the same prices he had originally paid if in same condition of course. I'm broke as usual but expect to be able to raise the money to do this withing few weeks.
Didn't you get that unusual P3C with the upside down pages you keep mentioning for around $150 or $175? Four or five of the last seven of those books sold went for $350; of course that was a long time ago. I happen to have one of them in my possession right now!
Eddie Robin
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fsarfino
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eddie,
I sent you a PM concerning these books. Could you please figure out a way to have these printed on paperback for a affordable price or maybe just sell a PDF version of them for a few bucks.
I really wanna read and learn from these but the price is a huge factor for me.
I sent you a PM concerning these books. Could you please figure out a way to have these printed on paperback for a affordable price or maybe just sell a PDF version of them for a few bucks.
I really wanna read and learn from these but the price is a huge factor for me.
asiasdad
Banned
He will contact you on Monday.
They are still in the same boxes as shipped.
There are only 3 people that know what was said,
two of them disagree with you.
Do yourself a favor and put those things out on paperback as the
previous post suggested, maybe HBP or KEA will stake you
He will contact you on Monday.
They are still in the same boxes as shipped.
There are only 3 people that know what was said,
two of them disagree with you.
Do yourself a favor and put those things out on paperback as the
previous post suggested, maybe HBP or KEA will stake you
Danny,
As explained, I was either run out or running out of various books editions but NOT the W1P! You knew that because I was still auctioning them off when you helped me decide to buy the Mustang! You are not recalling the event correctly.
Also, it would have been a good deal for those books used to go for well over $200 each and would still go for over $200 each if not for what happened with economy. Sorry that my lowered price for the W1Ps hurts those that have bought my books when they were higher priced, but, as originally understood, they figure to go up in value when I'm on empty.
Prices for my books are currently lower than they have been since around the year 1999 or 2000 and I don't see why or even how I can change that; that's the most people are now paying because of the economy situation and I won't increase the price just to satisfy you or your friend. If I ever do manage to get back into business my prices will be affordable for most but don't know if that day will ever come.
As for paper-backs, I don't see that ever happening. As for getting back into business again, that may or may not ever happen as well.
You should have communicated to me instead of putting this stuff on internet in effort to cause me embarrassment. I'll admit that I was possibly at fault in not interferring with your salesmanship to correct a statement you made to your friend at the time; I can't remember exactly what it was, but it was a misduplication of what I'd explained to you a minute earlier.
Eddie Robin