when i play for an extended period of time my shoulder will get sore. a while back i had an issue with a bad stroke and constantly putting unwanted english on the ball. to fix this i started to bring my shoulder in closer with my body. my stroke is very straight now but this sore shoulder doesnt seem like it should be happening. anyone else get like this?
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Sounds you have a small tear of some type in the lambrum or super spinatus muscle.....could even involve the anterior bicep tendon that extends downward from the shoulder through your chromium that's at the end your shoulder clavicle.
Major tears don't heal fast , well or last thus requiring surgery. Small tears will heal but can reoccur if the injured area gets exercised too soon. Small tears can become big tears very easily when the same tear keeps reoccurring. It's nothing to be taken lightly. I've had 3 rotator cuff surgeries since November 2009 (left shoulder) and November 2011 ( right shoulder) and October 1, 2013 (right shoulder again....used it too soon and re-tore the same muscles).
I won't be playing pool again until 2014 and so be careful. because the surgeries are horrible and pretty primitive from a scientific surgical perspective. At some point when you are hurting, that's the time to see a physician and forget about X-rays.....it's not skeletal.....ultimately for the most accurate diagnosis a MRI is needed. But don't let that stop you from at least getting the problem initially diagnosed by a competent physician.
Major tears don't heal fast , well or last thus requiring surgery. Small tears will heal but can reoccur if the injured area gets exercised too soon. Small tears can become big tears very easily when the same tear keeps reoccurring. It's nothing to be taken lightly. I've had 3 rotator cuff surgeries since November 2009 (left shoulder) and November 2011 ( right shoulder) and October 1, 2013 (right shoulder again....used it too soon and re-tore the same muscles).
I won't be playing pool again until 2014 and so be careful. because the surgeries are horrible and pretty primitive from a scientific surgical perspective. At some point when you are hurting, that's the time to see a physician and forget about X-rays.....it's not skeletal.....ultimately for the most accurate diagnosis a MRI is needed. But don't let that stop you from at least getting the problem initially diagnosed by a competent physician.
I did not have pain but i was not able to raise my right hand fully, it took about a year to heal on its own, i think 9 ball break did it, especially when i do not follow through..
I don't know how old you are, I'm past 70 and everything tends to ache after extended periods of time on the table. However, a good night's sleep usually cures the problem.
Your experience is not anyone else's. There is no indication that the discomfort is the result of anything other than pool.
To OP- try stretching before play, not to the point of pain though.
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I tried to color the area I'm talking about but it didn't work. (that red arrow and writing came with the pic)
So you see where the horizontal line for "Rhomboideus major" meets that vertical line towards the spine?
Around there -on your bridge arm side- you likely have a painful knot in the muscles just under the shoulder blade. It's a little lower from that point (likely based on how high your stance is). Massaging can reach in and soften that knot.
You can do it standing if you can relax well, but you really want to lay on your stomach and stretch your arm out a bit to the side with the elbow letting the hand rest upwards. Have someone massage around and up under that shoulder blade, slightly raising and lowering your elbow to get in there better. It will hurt, so start soft and work slowly harder until the knot warms, softens, and disappears.
fwiw, the site I stole that picture from is a sports site that may have stretches and other good advice, too. Link here.
So you see where the horizontal line for "Rhomboideus major" meets that vertical line towards the spine?
Around there -on your bridge arm side- you likely have a painful knot in the muscles just under the shoulder blade. It's a little lower from that point (likely based on how high your stance is). Massaging can reach in and soften that knot.
You can do it standing if you can relax well, but you really want to lay on your stomach and stretch your arm out a bit to the side with the elbow letting the hand rest upwards. Have someone massage around and up under that shoulder blade, slightly raising and lowering your elbow to get in there better. It will hurt, so start soft and work slowly harder until the knot warms, softens, and disappears.
fwiw, the site I stole that picture from is a sports site that may have stretches and other good advice, too. Link here.
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Body Pains
With improper body alignment to each shot before me, I'm old enough now I can quickly create problems in a multitude of areas. My neck, shoulders, forearms, hands, wrists, legs, calves can all have collateral damage after match play....and back if I don't do crunches. Those areas will all have problems if during the shot, I don't allow my body to be in a Natural pendulum swinging, unencumbered stance. This communication between the mind and the muscles breaks down in time, as does everything
. Because of age, my body Now actually tells me quicker when I'm not Comfortable, that's a good thing .
Hope this helps + water and pickle juice.
With improper body alignment to each shot before me, I'm old enough now I can quickly create problems in a multitude of areas. My neck, shoulders, forearms, hands, wrists, legs, calves can all have collateral damage after match play....and back if I don't do crunches. Those areas will all have problems if during the shot, I don't allow my body to be in a Natural pendulum swinging, unencumbered stance. This communication between the mind and the muscles breaks down in time, as does everything
. Because of age, my body Now actually tells me quicker when I'm not Comfortable, that's a good thing .Hope this helps + water and pickle juice
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Hey Black-Balled.....read again if your have any comprehension skills.....I wrote "sounds like" and I gave a succinct explanation of the major shoulder muscles that are used in playing pool.......I also wrote that he should see a physician when and while he's hurting the next time.......you are just like so many other Azers that misinterpret the written or spoken word and then express opinions based upon your misunderstanding of a post or thread. But that's probably not your fault and in all likelihood you didn't misread a single word that I wrote. You undoubtedly read each and every word I used but sadly some were just too big for you to understand. I do apologize and next time for your sake I will write in a fashion more in line with your literacy skills like......."See Spot run."
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Hi Zach, I was curious as to how long you have been playing pool? If by chance you are fairly new to the game or rather you just started practicing and playing after a layoff from the game your body might just be reacting to the change.
Apart from that I would see a doctor about it......and drink lots of water :wink: (I only say that because I know my joints hurt a lot more when they are dehydrated.)
Just for everyone's info. The rotator cuff muscles CAN NOT HEAL themselves. They are the only muscles in the body that don't have blood flow to them thus requiring surgery to fix a tear.
You can do therapy to strengthen the muscles but eventually you will start substituting other muscles and end up wearing out the shoulder joint.
This is from someone who has had 5 shoulder operations and now I have 2 replacement shoulders.
Not fun.
You can do therapy to strengthen the muscles but eventually you will start substituting other muscles and end up wearing out the shoulder joint.
This is from someone who has had 5 shoulder operations and now I have 2 replacement shoulders.
Not fun.
I get this too (shooting shoulder gets sore). Not really pain, but kind of feels sore, like your arm might get after throwing a baseball around. It goes away pretty fast after I am done playing. I believe it starts to detrimentally affect my play when the soreness kicks in.
Anyone have suggestions? Are there stretching exercises for this? I was even thinking about lifting weights to make the shoulder stronger.
Anyone have suggestions? Are there stretching exercises for this? I was even thinking about lifting weights to make the shoulder stronger.
I feel your pain. My left shoulder is all messed up. I am a side sleeper. I will roll onto my left in the night. And the pain will eventually wake me up. Damn! There is also a little bump under the skin over where the pain originates. Like a fat sac or something. Cant afford a trip to doctor right now. Still paying for the last time
I have done pt for the shoulder itself (for shoulder impingement syndrome)
and currently do pt on my *neck*
which evidently has been referring pain to my shooting shoulder
interesting, huh? I think so
anyway
you could try this
lie down on the bed, etc.
flat on your back
but you're gonna leave your head just off the bed
basically the bed stops at your shoulders
you want to be able to move your head up and down
while you're doing this
hold a little towel, t-shirt, etc. with both hands behind your head
let the towel support your head
let your head fall down off the bed
again, make sure your head is supported by the towel
now slowly, bring your head up to the level of your body
that's a rep
let your head fall down again, supported by the towel
and try a few
make sense?
I do sets of 20 a few times a day
for me, it's particularly effective right after I shoot
because we look down at the table (or anything- book, phone, etc.) so much
our neck muscles get weak
this exercise strengthens those muscles again
I am not a dr.
try this at your own risk
if you feel pain at any point in time, stop doing it
hey go nuts tho and see if it helps
hope you feel better soon:thumbup:
I had the same issue about 5-6 yrs ago.
Turned out to be Lipitor, after 12+ yrs. of taking it.
Shoulder/Elbow/Knees. It felt like pressure points, after 2 hrs. of table time.
Switched to something else, and pain never re-surfaced.
Not saying this is the OP's situation,but it's worth checking into.(not that uncommon)
Any Cholesterol med shouldn't be terminated without talking to your Doc, but for me it was Night/Day different.
Like others have said: Drink more water. It really helps.
Turned out to be Lipitor, after 12+ yrs. of taking it.
Shoulder/Elbow/Knees. It felt like pressure points, after 2 hrs. of table time.
Switched to something else, and pain never re-surfaced.
Not saying this is the OP's situation,but it's worth checking into.(not that uncommon)
Any Cholesterol med shouldn't be terminated without talking to your Doc, but for me it was Night/Day different.
Like others have said: Drink more water. It really helps.
I also have two total shoulder replacements and no longer have any problems from my shoulders playing pool! However, I do perform 20 minutes of stretching/strengthening exercises as a rule, just before starting any pool sessions.
If you perform only one single exercise, it would be to purchase a simple pulley with handles that attaches to the top of a door, which you can purchase at any pharmacy with medical supplies. You close the door and set in a chair with your back to the door and use the pulley to stretch both arms out as high as they will go, one at a time. This allows for stretching out your shoulder, which I do numerous times throughout the day when I can.
I had the same issue about 5-6 yrs ago.
Turned out to be Lipitor, after 12+ yrs. of taking it.
Shoulder/Elbow/Knees. It felt like pressure points, after 2 hrs. of table time.
Switched to something else, and pain never re-surfaced.
Not saying this is the OP's situation,but it's worth checking into.(not that uncommon)
Any Cholesterol med shouldn't be terminated without talking to your Doc, but for me it was Night/Day different.
Like others have said: Drink more water. It really helps.
Hmm. Ive taking a generic Atorvastatin since Dec 2013. But the left shoulder is the only thing that hurts on me. Interesting though.
Naproxen 
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