Sigel 150 & Out against Zuglan

stevekur1

stevekur1

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Hey All,

I just rewatched the 150 & Out that Sigel ran against Zuglan, and all i have to say is wow.... What a beautiful run, i think there was only 2 or 3 times that there was a problem on the table. But Sigel was never grasping for a shot !!!

Anyone have any Imput ?

-Steve
 
stevekur1 said:
Hey All,

I just rewatched the 150 & Out that Sigel ran against Zuglan, and all i have to say is wow.... What a beautiful run, i think there was only 2 or 3 times that there was a problem on the table. But Sigel was never grasping for a shot !!!

Anyone have any Imput ?

-Steve
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Hands down, the best run I have ever seen.
 
Sigel Zuglan

Steve: Everyone talks about this being a perfect run out. We discussed this a bit a few years back when Bluepepper diagrammed the end patterns of every rack for us.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=105661&highlight=Zuglan

We noticed that in a lot of the end patterns, Sigel was coming across the line to get his shapes on the break shot. Not stop, stop, stop. With dynamite cue ball control like Sigel has, that can be done, but for us guys that can be a dangerous way to go. An inch too far, here or there, and you lose the angle and the break shot.
 
Thanks D now that's what this forum is all about !!!

And you are right sigels end patterns are not stop stop stop but it is still a beautiful run none the less !!

Steve
 
that was my first accustats video ever, I used to watch it 5-6 times a year, and it was the first time I ever saw anyone run that many balls. I think it might be the reason I am hooked on straight pool. Now I am gonna have to get it on dvd, I haven't seen the run in too many years.

I saw mike run 100+ on the practice table in NJ last year just before Mika ran 150 on him on the tv table. I had a seat right next to the corner pocket and was watching a couple matches just before he began warming up. It turned out to be the best seat in the house, I was in his way and had to move a few times so he could shoot. He had the same breakshot about 4 racks in a row. He still makes it look easy and likes to talk about it as well.

Mike won the lag and was left with the same shot he had in the 150 vid. He just misses the shot but hit it real good. I think the tv table was a little tighter than the others. As much as I enjoyed Mika's run I would have liked to see Mike get another shot.
steven
 
I watched Mika's 150-and-out against Sigel last year and it seemed pretty effortless as well. IMHO, I wouldn't say Mika's run and patterns were as "classic" as Sigel's, but it looked pretty effortless nonetheless, especially the way he was drawing the cueball gently off the stack to center table - just about every time.

Still, the ultimate "scrambling" 150-and-out has to be Irving Crane. He is in serious trouble 4 or 5 times in that run - and gets out of it every time. My 2 favorites are the 5-ball combination to the 8 out of the stack, and when he accidentally ties up the 5-9, then nudges them just right to make the 9 wired in the corner.

SIDE NOTE: Maybe one of these days when I have nothing better to do, I'll play around with the "colorize" feature of the GIMP and write a script to colorize that video frame by frame. At this point it's just wishful thinking, though.
 
I have this video as well and is by far my favorite straight pool match. Grady was in the booth commentating and he pointed out after the match that there were "no banks, kisses or combinations" I'd say that's pattern play at its finest. He made it look so easy it was almost disgusting.
 
Winston846 said:
SIDE NOTE: Maybe one of these days when I have nothing better to do, I'll play around with the "colorize" feature of the GIMP and write a script to colorize that video frame by frame. At this point it's just wishful thinking, though.
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Update your tool set and try blender (from blender.org).
It can superimpose video together and produce those green screen effects made by movies. For the colorize technique you'd need two copies of the video. One version shade out the shapes and apply the color scripts and the other keep as original, then add the two via the video sequence editor.

from blender you can even addin your own commentating or sound track, and it is all drag and drop mouse methods.
 
Winston846 said:
SIDE NOTE: Maybe one of these days when I have nothing better to do, I'll play around with the "colorize" feature of the GIMP and write a script to colorize that video frame by frame. At this point it's just wishful thinking, though.
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If you have the video that technique can entirely be automated.

View attachment 177477

The file provided works with a computer loaded with gimp and python-fu.
That file must be renamed as file.exe and loaded into the plugin folder of the gimp user library. When loaded it can be accessed from the GIMP toolbar and then enter the folder location and amount of "cartoonization" to operate.

The secondary process is to provide gimp with image files.

If you have video, a separate program called blender (from blender.org) can sequence that video into distinct images. These images can be processed through gimp, as detailed above, and then put back together in blender.

If you are interested I can be more specific.

A sample of video from hand cam footage modified by a quick cartoonize batch script and stitched together in blender.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTygKOZbMxY

I know it works, for making it more pleasing to the eye more time should be spent on quality control. That is the boring part. I just wanted to see if I could script it.

PS: I like the idea behind this project.
 
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Watched it live

I was sitting right next to Grady, almost directly over the table on the balcony level in the old Roosevelt Hotel, when Mike made that run. It was breathtaking. He had one pretty difficult cut shot about midway through the run; I think it was a 5 ball in the corner, and he drilled it.

But the real threat to the run was two balls tied up on the rail near the side pocket. He made one attempt to hit them and just missed. But after he missed them, I thought his run might end; he was running out of options, as there were few balls left on the table. I believe he had run over 100 balls at this point and seemed to be on cruise control, it looked so easy. But when those two balls slid together, Mike cursed sort of silently. I held my breath. It looked dire. We were all whispering how he could do it, or if he could do it. I know I was so tense I was clenching the rail. But Mike was really on, and he did find a way. The room absolutey erupted when he broke them free.

I've watched that run many times over. His cueball control was incredible. He patterned the balls superbly. And if he got a little out of line, he just got it right back. I don't think I've ever watched a player so much in control of a straight pool run.

What some might not know is, Zuglan was playing great pool at the time. After Sigel hit him with the 150 and out, Zuglan came back and nearly replicated the feat against Ray Martin with 148 from the opening break, and he would have gotten a 150 had he not made a rather dumb shot choice right at the end.

Another little bit of trivia, when Zuglan lost to Sigel, his only shot was the opening break. Then, in the semi-final against Dallas West, Dallas knocked him out in two innings. So Zuglan got ONE offensive turn at the table in his two losses, and I think he ran about 50 balls that one chance. How's that for tough luck?
 
tedkaufman said:
I was sitting right next to Grady, almost directly over the table on the balcony level in the old Roosevelt Hotel, when Mike made that run. It was breathtaking. He had one pretty difficult cut shot about midway through the run; I think it was a 5 ball in the corner, and he drilled it.

But the real threat to the run was two balls tied up on the rail near the side pocket. He made one attempt to hit them and just missed. But after he missed them, I thought his run might end; he was running out of options, as there were few balls left on the table. I believe he had run over 100 balls at this point and seemed to be on cruise control, it looked so easy. But when those two balls slid together, Mike cursed sort of silently. I held my breath. It looked dire. We were all whispering how he could do it, or if he could do it. I know I was so tense I was clenching the rail. But Mike was really on, and he did find a way. The room absolutey erupted when he broke them free.

I've watched that run many times over. His cueball control was incredible. He patterned the balls superbly. And if he got a little out of line, he just got it right back. I don't think I've ever watched a player so much in control of a straight pool run.

What some might not know is, Zuglan was playing great pool at the time. After Sigel hit him with the 150 and out, Zuglan came back and nearly replicated the feat against Ray Martin with 148 from the opening break, and he would have gotten a 150 had he not made a rather dumb shot choice right at the end.

Another little bit of trivia, when Zuglan lost to Sigel, his only shot was the opening break. Then, in the semi-final against Dallas West, Dallas knocked him out in two innings. So Zuglan got ONE offensive turn at the table in his two losses, and I think he ran about 50 balls that one chance. How's that for tough luck?
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Since Zuglan plays good enough to do 150 and out himself, as witnessed against Ray Martin, how strong is that, really? Pretty damn, to my way of thinking!
 
Yeah, I had a ringside seat for that one. One of the things that's often forgotten is that both Mosconi and Caras, who sat together, were watching. Mosconi, who would die just a few months later, gave a rave review of Sigel's run for its technical excellence.

Everyone figured it would still be Sigel and Zuglan in the final, but in the losers bracket final, the legendary Dallas West got out in two innings against Zuglan, denying Zuglan his spot in the final.
 
sjm said:
Yeah, I had a ringside seat for that one. One of the things that's often forgotten is that both Mosconi and Caras, who sat together, were watching. Mosconi, who would die just a few months later, gave a rave review of Sigel's run for its technical excellence.

Everyone figured it would still be Sigel and Zuglan in the final, but in the losers bracket final, the legendary Dallas West got out in two innings against Zuglan, denying Zuglan his spot in the final.
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SJM, I still don't get how we never met when I was in NYC! Wish we had.
 
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