Jim Rempe taught me years ago to use the last three, with my little finger barely touching the butt. He said it allowed the stroke to go through more naturally. I've done it ever since.
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Jim Rempe taught me years ago to use the last three, with my little finger barely touching the butt. He said it allowed the stroke to go through more naturally. I've done it ever since.
Dean,
Without observation I would guess when you are bending lower you are going back to the stance you have been using for years. Very difficult to change.
Just shoot numbers of object balls (no cue ball) jacked up one handed and then move down to your new stance centered around your arm and wrist.
Concentrate on the arm/wrist position so you don't get them out of alignment.
The beauty of the one handed exercise is that everything falls naturally in to the correct position.
Remember it takes the brain 3 weeks to accept any change so don't give-up in frustration. It took me that long too.
I still get out of alignment sometimes and always go back to this exercise.
Bill S.
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About this, 'One handed' talk. I've seen and been around the best one handed players of the last Century. Aguzate, Miami, Ronnie Allen, Mexican Johnny, for my money Artie from Chicago!
All of them held the cue just about at the balance point or a little forward of the cue! This doesn't have much to do with the grip, hand ans wrist alignment playing 2 handed! JMHO and logic!
P.S. Pre-shot routine, alignment, rhythm-tempo & timing are first on the list for me. I was taught by a person that played every 3C champion from Alfredo DeOro to Raymond Ceulemans, Johnny Layton and a few others taught him and in turn he taught me to, "Sight or aim the tip of the cue at the target!" I've been doing that for over 50+ years! It's the ONLY part of the cue which the player should have control of!
All of them held the cue just about at the balance point or a little forward of the cue! This doesn't have much to do with the grip, hand ans wrist alignment playing 2 handed! JMHO and logic!
P.S. Pre-shot routine, alignment, rhythm-tempo & timing are first on the list for me. I was taught by a person that played every 3C champion from Alfredo DeOro to Raymond Ceulemans, Johnny Layton and a few others taught him and in turn he taught me to, "Sight or aim the tip of the cue at the target!" I've been doing that for over 50+ years! It's the ONLY part of the cue which the player should have control of!
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"P.S. Pre-shot routine, alignment, rhythm-tempo & timing are first on the list for me. I was taught by a person that played every 3C champion from Alfredo DeOro to Raymond Ceulemans, Johnny Layton and a few others taught him and in turn he taught me to, "Sight or aim the tip of the cue at the target!" I've been doing that for over 50+ years! It's the ONLY part of the cue which the player should have control of!"
Bill,
I seems to be common knowledge that 3C players look at the Cue Ball last, not the object ball so using the tip seem logical. I'm sure it works for you.
Playing one handed has nothing to do with what I am suggesting. This is only an exercise to find a natural position for your arm and wrist. One you establish that, you can build around it in a natural way and develop a straight stroke.
Bill S.
Bill,
I seems to be common knowledge that 3C players look at the Cue Ball last, not the object ball so using the tip seem logical. I'm sure it works for you.
Playing one handed has nothing to do with what I am suggesting. This is only an exercise to find a natural position for your arm and wrist. One you establish that, you can build around it in a natural way and develop a straight stroke.
Bill S.
Bill, YOU are 100% WRONG! Three cushion players doe NOT look at the CB last ALL the time, Carom players DO! Because of the slightest degree of English playing, 'rail nurse's' and little, kiss' shots it's VERY important to contact the CB exactly!
Explain to me, if you will, when playing one handed, which ever hand it is, the cue is FAR to the outside of the players head and body! How does a player build around that?
I don't have a table at home but i put a mirror in front of me
i never thought about the one handed stance having my head to the
right of the cue
but i thought
no matter what the cue must be in the same place when i lean over to shoot 2 handed
so keeping my cue in exactly the same place i bent over,my head went over the line of sight
I also noticed i was in a comfortable snooker stance as opposed to my pool stance of left foot forward
and more nearly parallel to the cue stick
my feet using what billy suggested were closer to each other
I find myself questioning my stance,I am eager to experiment standing with my head up like mosconi
perhaps a foot higher than the cue,like my one handed stance
any opinion
i feel like he is right about finding my natural stance and grip
Ronnie spent some time at our home and told us several
ronnie stories,concerning one handed pool
Ronnie did say to hold the cue at the balance point
Ronnie felt he was the best one handed one hole player of his time
As an aside I had a 24 ounce ,68 inch extended cue and it was
the best cue i ever had for one handed pool
i never thought about the one handed stance having my head to the
right of the cue
but i thought
no matter what the cue must be in the same place when i lean over to shoot 2 handed
so keeping my cue in exactly the same place i bent over,my head went over the line of sight
I also noticed i was in a comfortable snooker stance as opposed to my pool stance of left foot forward
and more nearly parallel to the cue stick
my feet using what billy suggested were closer to each other
I find myself questioning my stance,I am eager to experiment standing with my head up like mosconi
perhaps a foot higher than the cue,like my one handed stance
any opinion
i feel like he is right about finding my natural stance and grip
Ronnie spent some time at our home and told us several
ronnie stories,concerning one handed pool
Ronnie did say to hold the cue at the balance point
Ronnie felt he was the best one handed one hole player of his time
As an aside I had a 24 ounce ,68 inch extended cue and it was
the best cue i ever had for one handed pool
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Dean,
If you want a mirror to help with your alignment try this:
"TEACHING AID FOR SNOOKER, POOL AND BILLIARDS FOR A BETTER CUE ACTION AND A STRAIGHTER FOLLOW THROUGH
by Cue_Line"
on Amazon.com
I have one and check myself to make sure I am on track.
By the way Eddie Taylor played better one handed than Ronnie.
I saw him beat Ronnie every time they played.
Bill S.
If you want a mirror to help with your alignment try this:
"TEACHING AID FOR SNOOKER, POOL AND BILLIARDS FOR A BETTER CUE ACTION AND A STRAIGHTER FOLLOW THROUGH
by Cue_Line"
on Amazon.com
I have one and check myself to make sure I am on track.
By the way Eddie Taylor played better one handed than Ronnie.
I saw him beat Ronnie every time they played.
Bill S.
The one-handed players I've seen hold their cues roughly in the same position relative to their bodies as they do when playing two handed - as if they simply moved their grip hand up to the balance point and then moved their bridge hand out of the way.
pj
chgo
It is hard ti imagine all of the games and people you met with over the years as a player and later as a cue maker
Eddie Taylor was certainly a great player, Eddie Kelly ,a great player in his own right,told me
that Eddie Taylor was the best ever.
I seem to think that Mosconi was not considered when this remark was made,Mosconi was
held in high esteem but not considered in the ratings as he was not really a money player
It would be interesting to see how you rate the old players such as Jersey Red,Wimpy,Ronnie Allen ,Eddie Kelly,Eddie Taylor to each other,yourself and Efren and Nick Varner
I saw Nick play several times as far as I was concerned he was as good as the rest,
but too young to have played the first bunch and too old for the second
My speed was so far below these guys that I was unable to rank them,not that I didn't match up
with them but it was with huge spots
Eddie Taylor was certainly a great player, Eddie Kelly ,a great player in his own right,told me
that Eddie Taylor was the best ever.
I seem to think that Mosconi was not considered when this remark was made,Mosconi was
held in high esteem but not considered in the ratings as he was not really a money player
It would be interesting to see how you rate the old players such as Jersey Red,Wimpy,Ronnie Allen ,Eddie Kelly,Eddie Taylor to each other,yourself and Efren and Nick Varner
I saw Nick play several times as far as I was concerned he was as good as the rest,
but too young to have played the first bunch and too old for the second
My speed was so far below these guys that I was unable to rank them,not that I didn't match up
with them but it was with huge spots
Dean; Freddy the Beard owned the, 'Northshore Billiard Club' in Chicago. The year Nick Varner won the World Straight Pool Championship in NYC, he stopped at the club on the way there. He played, Artie Bodendorfer, BEST player in Chicago some 1 pocket $50 a game. Now Artie hadn't played pool in a couple of years, just played cards and bet sports at the club. Nick proceeded to beat Artie 17 games at 50 a game! Artie told Nick to stop back in from NYC and He'd play Nick some $300 a game at least
When they finished, Freddy, myself, Artie and Phil went to breakfast, BTW, we all lost money betting on Artie! Naturally, we asked, "Are you nuts, you're going to play him again?" His reply was astounding! "He don't know the first thing about one pocket!" Really, I said.
Nick won the 14.1 event, and came back with his Dad to play Artie. They played for several hours, Nick's Dad kept begging Nick to quit, "Nick, He's too good, quit!" Nick said, "I can't quit NOW, I'm learning too much!" About 5K later, Nick looked like He would need an oxygen tank!
TRUE fact!