Skeletons in our closet

[Nostroke]

There has been so much talk recently about Kevin Trudeau and his past convictions and federal time and scams, I was just wondering what some on here would think if their own skeletons in the closet were brought out? When I first started posting here in this forum, which is the first billiard forum I ever posted in, the reason I did was because I saw a thread about Rodney Morris, who is a good friend of mine. I saw where it was going, questions about his federal time, and what were the reasons for it. I set the record straight, with his permission, because I knew for a fact what happened because I was involved. Anyway, IF, (note the big IF) everyone on here had the misfortune of their past put into a forum such as this one, how would it make you feel? We walk the streets, side by side, with the likes of murderers, child-molesters, rapists, bank-robbers, kidnappers, drug dealers, but is there a sign on their backs telling us that they are one or more of these types of people? No, there isn't. So why is it okay to talk about someone in a billiard forum, about their past? Before you answer that question, ask yourself, "Can I FIT in my closet?"
I don't have a problem talking about my past and if anyone ever has a question that they would like to ask me about it, feel free to do so. Of course this isn't an invite to my life story, because that's my business, just like yours is yours. But please keep this in mind, if I tell you something, that's between you and I. If I want to share it with everyone, I'll put it in the forum myself. I respect others the way I feel I should be respected. I shouldn't have to say, " Don't tell anyone else this ", but sometimes we all have to say that.
Anyway, lets get back to the skeletons in the closet. Would anyone like to share with the rest of us about your past? Or, would you like to keep it to yourself because you're ashamed of it? Or because it's not our business? The risk of maybe going to jail? Or worse? Think about that before you pass judgment on other's next time.
Peace, and have a good day, John.

Should we not talk about the BTK murderer? How about Hitler?

BTW- I have had 1 DWI, I DUI and one pistol permit violation..

 

[Colin Colenso]

Give me a 2-iron and a few brand new Titleists and you'll be frozen like the Statue of Liberty with a 16 lb iron ball in your hand as I hit my famous "stun" shot to the family jewels target.

I knew you'd aim at the BIGGEST target!

 

[pete lafond]

I hadn't heard that, but... I'm sure that you have to pay to get into the tournaments...there's that...but, to tell you the truth, I wouldn't even trust him with the $1.00. I don't have a real high opinion of Kevin Trudeau.

I say forget KT and his skeletons and look at our politicians. I am not saying that allowing the price of gas to rise like this is a diversion from other issues or it is a way to cover war expenses without telling anyone (tax goes up with fuel costs).

However there is a bigger issue with the government that really disturbs me. Here is the skeleton.

A friends family member was a victim of child sexual abuse at age 9. That child was repeatedly raped by 4 priests. He is now an adult male, but can not file charges against the priests who did it because of statutes of limitations. (statutes of limitations restricts the amount of time someone can be tried)

Children under the age of 10 are afraid to tell people what happened to them especially because they feel no one will believe them. They try to bury it, many are threatened and physiologically it is proven that it takes many years (many as 40 and more) before they are able to get it out. Especially males. They are affected throughout there lives because of the tragedy and have physiological problems as a result. Many just take their own lives. Others are in jails because of drugs, prostitution .. They cried out for help when they were children by getting ito trouble as a way to tell everyone something was wrong and this set the stage for their future. (by the way it is a falasy that they turn out like their abusers)

Anyway, his abusers are older but can not be arrested or anything. Why? The church pays the politicians lots of money so that the law makers will keep the statutes. The rapists runs free and this person has a life long hell. Worse than that the priests have cannon laws they live by. One law states that it is OK for them to lie if it might harm the church. What an escape. The bishops and priest can all lie now. Additionally it is proven that these pedophiles can never change and even into their 70's. When they can no longer perform, they still go through the act because it is the act that thrills them. So all these older pedophiles are running loose. Worse because the church expels them, now they are in yours and my neighborhood and we can never find out who they are.

Imagine, the church was busy moving around the priest to new parishes to protect them and the church never once went to the families to let them know the children need help. This is a church? I know this stuff because I volunteer my time to help the abused victims and I am helping fight for their rights.

I bring this up because what I would like to say is that most on this forum who released skeletons are in fact very good people and they know they are. Many are just fun things, The government and church on the other hand have many real skeletons and those are about hurting little children. Sexually abusing children is the worse imaginable thing we allow in society today. (maybe some of our law makers were rapist to and now breath a sigh of relief with laws to protect them.) Yes very few states did change this but most will not.

This is a closet of skeletons.

Sorry for the long post.

 

[matthew]

I haven't been around pool or this forum for the past year or so. Likely, I just don't pay attention to the news, but at the risk of embarrassing myself, who's Kevin Trudeau?

 

[CantEverWin]

I'm not saying I did anything, but I did learn one lesson as a child. Never tie 5 "M-80's" together and put them on top of the Post office box. (At the post office across the street from your house.) It's a nice show, but you have no idea how many cops show up to something like that...

Kid's....


Mike

 

[JimBo]

Having said that, criminal backgrounds are a matter of public record. If you have felony convictions, you lose a lot of your rights. People should think about that before they commit felonies. .

Well said Gerald !!!!

Jim

 

[Hal]

Give me a 2-iron and a few brand new Titleists and you'll be frozen like the Statue of Liberty with a 16 lb iron ball in your hand as I hit my famous "stun" shot to the family jewels target.

Thanks Drivermaker. Now I can mention my Titleist clubs I have on ebay. Their listed in the NPR forum. The links are there as well. I also have a very nice Titleist driver that I'll sell as well for 160.00

 

[drivermaker]

what "aiming system" do you use for that shot DM?

If it's HIS family jewels that we're talking about as the target...I guarantee you it won't be the "FEEL" method.

 

[landshark77]

A friends family member was a victim of child sexual abuse at age 9. That child was repeatedly raped by 4 priests. He is now an adult male, but can not file charges against the priests who did it because of statutes of limitations. (statutes of limitations restricts the amount of time someone can be tried)

Actually the statute of limitations for such an event starts when that minor turns 18...not when the incident itself occured. If the statute was 9 years and the victim was 9 the statute wouldn't be up until the victim was 27.

 

[pete lafond]

Actually the statute of limitations for such an event starts when that minor turns 18...not when the incident itself occured. If the statute was 9 years and the victim was 9 the statute wouldn't be up until the victim was 27.

Yes you are correct. This person (victim) is much older, 40's. We recently found out that the pedophile is working with youg kids at a camp with sleepovers.

 

[GeraldG]

Actually the statute of limitations for such an event starts when that minor turns 18...not when the incident itself occured. If the statute was 9 years and the victim was 9 the statute wouldn't be up until the victim was 27.

This varies WIDELY from state to state. In some states there is NO Statute of limitations for Rape (for instance Alabama, Kentucky, Idaho and others). In some states it depends on the degree of the charge. For instance, in Louisiana there is no Statute of Limitations on Aggravated Rape, a 10 year limitation on Forcible Rape and a 4year limitaion on Simple Rape. In Georgia, there is a 15 year limitation on Forcible Rape.

In New York (where Pete lives) generally, the Statute of Limitations is 5 years from the date of commission. In the case of certain sexual crimes against minors, the SOL (5 years) does not begin until the victim reaches the age of 18 or the offense is reported to police, assuming qualifying conditions are met. So, if the crime is reported 2 years after it happened, then the SOL would begin at that point. If it was not reported to police before the victim reached 18 years of age, then the SOL would begin on the victim's 18th birthday and run out on the victim's 23rd birthday.

In some states there is provisions for extension of the Statutes of Limitations for Child Rape and Child molestation cases where there are suppressed memories for tort purposes. This also varies widely from state to state.

There are NO Statutes of Limitations on Murder.

 

[pete lafond]

Thanks Drivermaker. Now I can mention my Titleist clubs I have on ebay. Their listed in the NPR forum. The links are there as well. I also have a very nice Titleist driver that I'll sell as well for 160.00

Titleist? I have a set of 20 yr old Wilson Staff's I play with. Xtra Stiff shafts (replaced shafts 2 times) and there is no club made that hits the ball sweeter than these. By the way distance is premium. I would never sell these.

 

[Sweet Marissa]

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There shouldn't be a statute of limitations on any kind of rape, and the offender should get life in prison. Some people aren't as fortunate to "get over" something that traumatic. For those able to move on, it's still always in the back of your mind.

 

[pete lafond]

This varies WIDELY from state to state. In some states there is NO Statute of limitations for Rape (for instance Alabama, Kentucky, Idaho and others). In some states it depends on the degree of the charge. For instance, in Louisiana there is no Statute of Limitations on Aggravated Rape, a 10 year limitation on Forcible Rape and a 4year limitaion on Simple Rape. In Georgia, there is a 15 year limitation on Forcible Rape.

In New York (where Pete lives) generally, the Statute of Limitations is 5 years from the date of commission. In the case of certain sexual crimes against minors, the SOL (5 years) does not begin until the victim reaches the age of 18 or the offense is reported to police, assuming qualifying conditions are met. So, if the crime is reported 2 years after it happened, then the SOL would begin at that point. If it was not reported to police before the victim reached 18 years of age, then the SOL would begin on the victim's 18th birthday and run out on the victim's 23rd birthday.

In some states there is provisions for extension of the Statutes of Limitations for Child Rape and Child molestation cases where there are suppressed memories for tort purposes. This also varies widely from state to state.

There are NO Statutes of Limitations on Murder.

Amazing is that most statutes also may be extended due to "Discovery". Some of these victims went through counseling for physiological problems to later find out that they were severely molested. Call "Recovered Memories", a topic in itself. Even if someone witness the event, NYS has been throwing these out of court (one recent new exception)

The laws are protecting the pedophile by not hearing these cases, but hear other cases after statutes expired that are not related. The law makers are protecting someone. The church?

Imagine, as children, these victims were severely sexually assaulted and their self protective mechanisms caused them to forget. Still caused even greater physiological problem in the future for them.

Most go through periods of missed lives. Image waking up one day and realizing that you are 40 or 50 and life slipped you by. They had real time lapses. They live normal day to day, it is that time slipped by because of memory. It is horrible. This is one of those things that people say; it didn't happen to me, or not my children not possible. As a result politicians let the laws stand. Only few seem to care.

 

[GeraldG]

There shouldn't be a statute of limitations on any kind of rape, and the offender should get life in prison. Some people aren't as fortunate to "get over" something that traumatic. For those able to move on, it's still always in the back of your mind.

I agree 100%, in MOST cases. There is also a thing called Statutory Rape where the sex is consentual, but the girl (usually) is under the age of consent. So, if the age of consent was 17, a boy 17 and a girl 16 have sex, the boy could be charged with Statutory Rape. I don't think a case like that warrants a life sentence (and the laws don't provide for it).

I think that in any case of Forcible Rape there should be no Statute of Limitations.

In Louisiana (up until the mid-'70's or so) Aggravated Rape was a capital crime and carried the death penalty.

 

[pete lafond]

There shouldn't be a statute of limitations on any kind of rape, and the offender should get life in prison. Some people aren't as fortunate to "get over" something that traumatic. For those able to move on, it's still always in the back of your mind.

Much worse than that, it has been proven that victims as children are affected their entire lives. Many have no idea of what success really is, at any level. Their entire lives were disrupted. Many have trouble concentrating, not typical ADD either, much worse. Imagine a 9 year old boy getting it (I'm sorry to say this) in the behind respectively by 4 pedophiles. Next time you see a young child, look at him/her and imagine this is how young these abused kids are. Then the pedophiles threatening this young child so he tells no one. When he is finally old enough, too much time has passed and because of it will think no one will believe him. Or he is ashamed even though it is not his fault. He is male and looks like a wimp in his mind.

Or those that have hidden the memory so deep that it does not re-appear until later life. Meanwhile each of these have lost part of their life and I mean lost time in their lives. Do you remember the movie 50 First Dates with Adam Standler (i think). Each day the girl got up and thought it was the same day. Not as bad but what many of these victims go through is somewhat similar. Then they are older and wake up one day realizing time went by. Such a waste.

 

[chefjeff]

John,

First of all, if people lived as if everything they did, both the good and bad, could be on public display, I wonder if each of us would have better character as a result?

I think you would be shocked to find out how easy it is to bring up the bad on someone. You have few secrets if someone bothers looking. Public information includes most legal records, judgements, criminal proceedings, even such sensitive personal information such as divorce records, paternity suits, settlements, etc.

The state and local governments are now allowing easy access to court records. In some states this is free (or just a few dollars) and only takes a few minutes. You can instantly find out if someone was convicted of a felony - even if it was 30 years ago, or had a speeding ticket.

What I'm saying is without the subject's permission, you can do this now, on your computer, in a few minutes, at almost no expense.

I respect you for being up front about what happened to you. You told your story. I think the best protection is the truth, but that also means being true to yourself, which I believe you are.

I have found people are tremendously generous and forgiving when dealing with the sincere.

Chris

tap tap tap...

Privacy is gone...people can know almost everything you did today, if they really want to know...it is now cheap enough and easy enough to find out.

Beware, someone (besides yourself) is watching!

As for not commiting a felony...that's hard even an honest person to avoid nowadays as there's so many laws on the books. For example, have you ever put prescription meds in pill box?

Jeff Livingston

 

[GeraldG]

tap tap tap...

As for not commiting a felony...that's hard even an honest person to avoid nowadays as there's so many laws on the books. For example, have you ever put prescription meds in pill box?

Jeff Livingston

Why do you ask that?

 

[Sweet Marissa]

As for not commiting a felony...that's hard even an honest person to avoid nowadays as there's so many laws on the books. For example, have you ever put prescription meds in pill box?

Jeff Livingston

Is that a felony??

 

[Mr. Wilson]

As for not commiting a felony...that's hard even an honest person to avoid nowadays as there's so many laws on the books. For example, have you ever put prescription meds in pill box?

Jeff Livingston

.......Or taken one of someone elses, or given someone one of your's?

.......Or used a product in a manner inconsistent with it's labeling?

.......Or threw that old tire, battery, paint........yadda yadda yadda....away in the trash.


Maybe a trillion different ways to be a bad guy.