Skip Cue Completed!! :o)

FAST_N_LOOSE said:
YOU KNOW WHAT JIMBO, I WISH I HAD MORE TIME FOR THIS. I FEEL I WOULD GREATLY ENJOY OUR DEBATE OVER MANY USELESS TOPICS. LIKE OUR DISCUSSION IN VF WHERE YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THE RECUTS ON THAT HALEY CUE, WHICH I THEN TOLD YOU WERE VENEERS, AND YOU CONTINUED TO DISAGREE WITH ME EVEN AFTER I INFORMED YOU THAT THE CUEMAKER TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE VENEERS. THAT GAVE ME A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF HOW HARD IT IS FOR YOU TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVEN THE SMALLEST THINGS. HAVE FUN WITH YOUR FEUD WITH JOE, I HAVE NO TIME FOR POINTLESS DISCUSSIONS....... I WASN'T EVEN GOING TO REPLY TO YOUR LAST POST, BUT AFTER YOU CHOSE TO INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE(WHICH YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF MY BACKGROUND, OR MY EDUCATION) I THOUGHT I SHOULD MENTION HERE OUR NICE DISCUSSION IN VF.

P.S. I WASN'T ATTEMPTING TO SPEAK FOR ANYONE, I WAS JUST CONVEYING A MESSAGE TO YOU, FROM MYSELF AND SEVERAL OTHERS THAT I HAVE SPOKE WITH.

Seems like you have another VF story a bit off, maybe it's just your memory. Fred was the one who really thought it was a recut, when asked I gave my opinion that it looked like it was a recut, I still stand behind my *OPINION* that it looked like a recut, there is no shame in being wrong as there is no proof of inteligence on your part when the fact is you had first hand knowledge from the maker. I don't need any idea of your background or your education to tell you that you aren't real bright if you feel I tried to hyjack this thread or that I attacked Joe. Anyone paying attention would have noticed that Joe in an attempt to get some attention tried to bait me, but you wanted to be neutral hence the post to both of us. I've made my point now a few times, if you don't like it it's to bad and worse then all of this you have now done what you were trying to avoid for all the masses, you have now hyjacked the thread.

What a Shame.

Jim
 
Matt_24 said:
Why would you use a the implied term "Helmstetter" as an insult (or did you know that it would annoy Marcus?)? I really like a lot of the fancy (what I'm guessing) one of a kind Helmstetter's I've seen. Beautiful work.

It was sarasm and a joke. But Marcus let Jimbo get to him to much for him to read it that way. Marcus and I know the joke.. its no big deal.

Joe
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
HAVE FUN WITH YOUR FEUD.......AND LEAVE MY CUES OUT OF IT.

Hey.. lighten up or your Audiovox / Kraco installation license will be revolked.

Joe
 
classiccues said:
It was sarasm and a joke. But Marcus let Jimbo get to him to much for him to read it that way. Marcus and I know the joke.. its no big deal.

Joe

The Joke is you Joe, it was you when you posted that I hide behind my monitor and it was you when I came to your bosses booth at VF. You are the Joke, and many here know how much of a poser you are and anyone in ear shot at VF found out what a real Clown you were. You tried to call me out for nothing and when I pointed out that you had no clue you tried to drag your boss into it. By dragging Mark in you made him look like a clown and exposed him for the drunk that he is, it was great to be so right that I could just stand there and laugh at him yelling and overreacting and then trying to have me removed for nothing LOL, you guys really made my weekend fun, thanks Joe.

Jim <---Joe's pal
 
JimBo said:
I couldn't agree more, I've been ignoring Joe since I *****ed him and his drunken lying cheat of a boss out at VF, but I guess he felt he wasn't getting the attention he deserved so he had to try and start it back up. Turns out I'm not real good at keeping quiet so when he opened the door here I walked in. I don't have lots of time to play with Joe right now so I am pretty sure you (and the millions you speak for) have little to worry about, put your policeman's hat back in the closet and relax Marcus.

Jim

ROTFLMAO you came around, made ridiculous accusations as you always do and almost got das boot. Proving as usual, you're still an idiot. BTW more accusations you have ZERO basis for. You need to give it up, unless of course you have some proof to put forward.

Joe
 
JimBo said:
The Joke is you Joe, it was you when you posted that I hide behind my monitor and it was you when I came to your bosses booth at VF. You are the Joke, and many here know how much of a poser you are and anyone in ear shot at VF found out what a real Clown you were. You tried to call me out for nothing and when I pointed out that you had no clue you tried to drag your boss into it. By dragging Mark in you made him look like a clown and exposed him for the drunk that he is, it was great to be so right that I could just stand there and laugh at him yelling and overreacting and then trying to have me removed for nothing LOL, you guys really made my weekend fun, thanks Joe.

Jim <---Joe's pal

First off, you liar. You came to me, with your ridiculous rant about cue ownership, of which more than 12 cues in the booth I personally owned. Where you tried to say I owned none. Saying without Bruce we wouldn't have any cues, but in reality, there was maybe 8 cues of Bruces in the booth. Second I said here he is, you got something to say, say it. When you cried about the picture, he got right back in YOUR face. Thats all that happened. Nice try on your part.

Joe
 
classiccues said:
ROTFLMAO you came around, made ridiculous accusations as you always do and almost got das boot. Proving as usual, you're still an idiot. BTW more accusations you have ZERO basis for. You need to give it up, unless of course you have some proof to put forward.

Joe

Joe before Vf you made one of the funniest posts that I had ever read, it said I talked shit and then hid behind my monitor. It was funny because you have met me many times before and you knew better, yet you posted it none the less. When I got to VF on Thursday, I walked over to your bosses booth and asked you what you meant by your clueless post. Do you even get the irony of it? You claimed I hid yet I walked right up to you, face to face, I asked what you meant by your post that said I hide. I made no accusations. You then started to yell and make a scene and when it got you nowhere you tried to drag Mark (your boss) into it, he then started to yell and then ran to get security, I didn't almost get "das boot" as you put it, and I also laughed every time I walked by and you guys tried to give me evil looks all weekend like a bunch of 6th grade girls. I'm not sure what proof you want, I have said many things that are all true and you have tried to deny them all even though they have nothing to do with you and you have no clue you keep typing away like you have a clue. It's pointless to go back and forth with you, it's not about you and has never been about you. But of course you strive to be important and you're so hell bent on it you want to lie to everyone here just to feel important and now you want to create this so called feud. One more time Joe read it slow.
IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU, GET OVER IT.
When I got back from VF I thought about posting the story of what boobs you and Mark made out of yourselves, I chose not to. Now you want to drag it up??? Makes me wonder why. My best advice to you is to let it go, you aren't looking like the bigshot you want to and it just keeps reminding us all what a scumbag Mark Kulungian of pool table magic and classiccues.com is. There's a free ad for his site (oooops I mean your site LOL)

Jim
 
Strongly advise that all parties cease the bickering.

This thread of Lisa's about a beautiful cue has been wrecked.


Lisa, please accept my appologies for this.

Dave
 
poor behaviour

Quite some time ago, I posted a topic asking for other members' opinions on some of the poor behaviour, namely juvenile and petty bickering, having nothing to do with a specific thread. This thread, unfortunately, has become a perfect example of that behaviour. I don't know what fuels some of the nastiness I have seen and, personally, don't care to, but I am definitely sorry to see it come up when all it does is take away from the potential enjoyment of a discussion forum such as this.

If Lisa is pleased with her new cue, as far as I am concerned, that is all that should matter. Good for you. Lisa, if you feel you came out with a beautiful cue. I would suggest that a modicum of restraint be shown when tempted to engage in needless arguments that add nothing to the thread.

Ryan
 
Mr. Wilson said:
Strongly advise that all parties cease the bickering.

This thread of Lisa's about a beautiful cue has been wrecked.


Lisa, please accept my appologies for this.

Dave

I don't believe the thread was wrecked, Lisa knows she's got a real nice cue, I can see her smile from here. What you should apologize for was when you tried to wreck this thread early on with your chauvinistic remarks calling her cue girly, but since you have all the power you're above the rules I guess. I'm sorry that I don't let things go when I am baited it's a flaw I admit to. I have apologized to Lisa already and am pretty sure she has forgiven me, I hope Joe will grow up a bit and we won't have any further problems, if not I will continue to speak the truth when he wants the attention.

Jim
 
Okie dokie then!:rolleyes:

Thank you to all those who gave me kind remarks concerning my new 'baby'. :) It is appreciated.

I have recieved apologies from both Mr Wilson and JimBo for any percieved trangressions. And that too, is greatly appreciated. I admire them both for 'stepping up'.

It's all good. I'm cool.:cool: Soooooo.....let's say we get back to talking pool and cues?!

Lisa
 
To kinda swing this thing back around........

This was my first experience with ordering directly from the cuemaker. It was a great experience! I was pretty involved with the design process, but I am kinda 'hands on' that way.

For those of you who are currently getting a cue made, or on a waiting list to have one made......I encourage you to get involved in the design process of your cue. And that goes beyond choosing what woods will be used. Make that cue uniquely your own. I would have to think that a cuemaker gets bored doing the same old thing over and over again. When you something just a little different, I bet it just gets those creative juices flowing. I know that when I was making highend, collectible mohair and alpaca bears, I would get bored to tears doing the same bear over and over again!
Besides, it's really fun to see your vision come to fruition!!! And then we get to see so much more of one's personality reflected in so many different cues!!

I guess what I am trying to convey, in a longwinded way...LOL...is, it's YOUR cue.....have fun with it!!

Lisa
 
ridewiththewind said:
To kinda swing this thing back around........

This was my first experience with ordering directly from the cuemaker. It was a great experience! I was pretty involved with the design process, but I am kinda 'hands on' that way.

For those of you who are currently getting a cue made, or on a waiting list to have one made......I encourage you to get involved in the design process of your cue. And that goes beyond choosing what woods will be used. Make that cue uniquely your own. I would have to think that a cuemaker gets bored doing the same old thing over and over again. When you something just a little different, I bet it just gets those creative juices flowing. I know that when I was making highend, collectible mohair and alpaca bears, I would get bored to tears doing the same bear over and over again!
Besides, it's really fun to see your vision come to fruition!!! And then we get to see so much more of one's personality reflected in so many different cues!!

I guess what I am trying to convey, in a longwinded way...LOL...is, it's YOUR cue.....have fun with it!!

Lisa

Great Post! Great advice!!!

Jim
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
LIKE OUR DISCUSSION IN VF WHERE YOU TOLD ME ABOUT THE RECUTS ON THAT HALEY CUE, WHICH I THEN TOLD YOU WERE VENEERS, AND YOU CONTINUED TO DISAGREE WITH ME EVEN AFTER I INFORMED YOU THAT THE CUEMAKER TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE VENEERS. THAT GAVE ME A PRETTY GOOD IDEA OF HOW HARD IT IS FOR YOU TO ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT EVEN THE SMALLEST THINGS. .

Wow. Interesting that I was right there, I was the one who said it looked like a recut. I don't remember any debate or argument. I said the word "recut." You said that the cuemaker said it wasn't a recut. I said it looked like a recut, looked at it impressively, and that was that. I had no idea there was a debate or even a disagreement. I'm sorry if you felt there was one.

If anyone cares, the cue was a multi-veneer (double, maybe triple?) of the same wood that was executed so well, it looked like a recut. Hence, "it looks like a recut." Those Haley cues are as perfect as I've ever seen. Ron Haley and his wife are wonderful people. They had four or so cues floating around with similar recut-looking veneer work, and I had a great time talking to Ron about his work. I tried to get some of the photos of his cues in the magazine, but I don't know if that happened.

Fred
 
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Cornerman said:
Wow. Interesting that I was right there, I was the one who said it looked like a recut. I don't remember any debate or argument. I said the word "recut." You said that the cuemaker said it was a recut. I said it looked like a recut, looked at it impressively, and that was that. I had no idea there was a debate or even a disagreement. I'm sorry if you felt there was one.

If anyone cares, the cue was a multi-veneer (double, maybe triple?) of the same wood that was executed so well, it looked like a recut. Hence, "it looks like a recut." Those Haley cues are as perfect as I've ever seen. Ron Haley and his wife are wonderful people. They had four or so cues floating around with similar recut-looking veneer work, and I had a great time talking to Ron about his work. I tried to get some of the photos of his cues in the magazine, but I don't know if that happened.

Fred
OK FRED, SINCE YOU WANT TO CHIME IN. THAT IS NOT HOW I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATON. I SHOWED THE CUE TO JIM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CUE. HE MENTIONED ABOUT THE RECUTS, AND I SAID NO THEY WERE VENEERS. HE SAID NO THEY AREN'T THEIR RECUTS. HE EVEN WENT SO FAR AS TO CALL MURRAY OVER AND ASK HIM, AT WHICH POINT MURRAY INFORMED BOTH OF YOU THAT THEY WERE VENEERS. MY POINT ABOUT THAT IS, HE COULDN'T EVEN ADMIT TO BEING WRONG, EVEN AFTER I INFORMED HIM THAT THE CUEMAKERS TOLD ME THEY WERE VENEERS.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THERE WAS NO DEBATE, I WASN'T GOING TO WASTE MY BREATH, BUTY THERE MOST CERTAINLY WAS A DISAGREEMENT IN WHICH JIMBO PROVED HIMSELF WRONG, BY CALLING MURRAY OVER, AND BY MUURAY TELLING HIM I WAS RIGHT. OR DID YOU FORGET ABOUT THE FACT THAT MURRAY WAS THE ONE THAT FINALLY GIT HIM TO BELIEVE ME.

I ALSO HAVE WITNESSES(PLURAL) TO THE CONVERSATION, THAT WILL VERIFY WHAT HAPPENED.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
OK FRED, SINCE YOU WANT TO CHIME IN.
Surely you aren't taking offense that I'm telling you how I saw the conversation.

THAT IS NOT HOW I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATON. I SHOWED THE CUE TO JIM, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CUE. HE MENTIONED ABOUT THE RECUTS, AND I SAID NO THEY WERE VENEERS. HE SAID NO THEY AREN'T THEIR RECUTS. HE EVEN WENT SO FAR AS TO CALL MURRAY OVER AND ASK HIM, AT WHICH POINT MURRAY INFORMED BOTH OF YOU THAT THEY WERE VENEERS. .

I'm sorry Marcus, but you remembered it wrong. I know, since I was the one who questioned if they were recuts. I also was interested enough about it to seek out Ron and discuss it with him. Calling witnesses doesn't really matter when I was the one who was asking, does it? Obviously I know Chris Grader was there. There are reasons why I am currently so interested in recuts as I'm planning on doing an article this year on a cuemaker that is doing recuts. That's another reason why I know without any hesitancy that it was I who thought they were recuts and questioned that they were veneers.

The importance of the topic is why I remember quite vividly the conversation, what WASN'T said, and how your reaction was. You drew back as if insulted by the questioning. Apparently, you were. Again, I am sorry if you thought it was some kind of insult or some kind of disagreement.

It was just a question from looking at the points. It would be no different than asking if a wrapped cue with no ring work was full-spliced or half-spliced. You gave me information on that cue. And information on cues is obviously going to be very important to me.

Fred <~~~ thought they were recuts, which is why I said "recuts."
 
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ridewiththewind said:
To kinda swing this thing back around........

This was my first experience with ordering directly from the cuemaker. It was a great experience! I was pretty involved with the design process, but I am kinda 'hands on' that way.

For those of you who are currently getting a cue made, or on a waiting list to have one made......I encourage you to get involved in the design process of your cue. And that goes beyond choosing what woods will be used. Make that cue uniquely your own. I would have to think that a cuemaker gets bored doing the same old thing over and over again. When you something just a little different, I bet it just gets those creative juices flowing. I know that when I was making highend, collectible mohair and alpaca bears, I would get bored to tears doing the same bear over and over again!
Besides, it's really fun to see your vision come to fruition!!! And then we get to see so much more of one's personality reflected in so many different cues!!

I guess what I am trying to convey, in a longwinded way...LOL...is, it's YOUR cue.....have fun with it!!

Lisa
good advice I concur completely, and again great cue...
 
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