skippy27...got a few questions cor you

[Skippy27]

I can hardly wait for Skippy's apology.

You won't be getting one.

There are players who play with 3 piece jump break cues with a normal playing tip as their normal playing stick. According to the person who posted what you wanted to hear that is not legal, yet it is allowed. So we will leave this until someone goes to change sticks for the purpose of making a jump shoot at a higher level tournament and see how that goes.

 

[Celophanewrap]

You won't be getting one.

There are players who play with 3 piece jump break cues with a normal playing tip as their normal playing stick. According to the person who posted what you wanted to hear that is not legal, yet it is allowed. So we will leave this until someone goes to change sticks for the purpose of making a jump shoot at a higher level tournament and see how that goes.

Yeah, Skippy, if you'll recall I was in agreement with you when this all started. I also know people that play with a 3 piece cue, but without that cue being called a Rift or Air, or something like that there's a .chance all it is is a 3 piece playing cue. Being 3 pieces doesn't necessarily make it BJ cue. If the folks you know that play with a 3 piece have a cue manufactured specifically for a specialty purpose, then it stands to reason that it's some sort of hybrid and The APA (or your LO) has ruled and said it was ok. Incidentally, I have a 3 piece that was never intended to be a break cue. I could break with it if I wanted, but that's not what it was made for, it's a custom. If I see anyone change cues to jump this summer in Las Vegas I'll let you know what happens

 

[Shawn Armstrong]

You won't be getting one.

There are players who play with 3 piece jump break cues with a normal playing tip as their normal playing stick. According to the person who posted what you wanted to hear that is not legal, yet it is allowed. So we will leave this until someone goes to change sticks for the purpose of making a jump shoot at a higher level tournament and see how that goes.

I use a two piece standard cue. According to the response from APA corporate, I can break and jump with it. Regardless of your personal interpretation of the rule. So...you're wrong. Just admit it. You'll feel better.

 

[Skippy27]

I also know people that play with a 3 piece cue, but without that cue being called a Rift or Air, or something like that there's a .chance all it is is a 3 piece playing cue. Being 3 pieces doesn't necessarily make it BJ cue.

It is an actual Jump / Break cue he put a softer tip on to play with as a normal stick as he liked it better than the other stick he had. Just the opposite of what Shawn did in which he took a normal stick and put a break / jump tip on it so he can call it a normal stick to try to skirt the rules.

I use a two piece standard cue. According to the response from APA corporate, I can break and jump with it. Regardless of your personal interpretation of the rule. So...you're wrong. Just admit it. You'll feel better.

I am already well versed from this thread that you have a modified cue for the purpose of jumping and breaking to try to skirt the rules. You have made that clear and I will not have the debate with you again.

Maybe one day we will see it challenged in a match and actually ruled on at the national level. I can only hope when that day comes it is me challenging you because I want to hear you whine like a little girl when I hear them tell you what I already know they are going to tell you. Peace out!

 

[Celophanewrap]

It is an actual Jump / Break cue he put a softer tip on to play with as a normal stick as he liked it better than the other stick he had. Just the opposite of what Shawn did in which he took a normal stick and put a break / jump tip on it so he can call it a normal stick to try to skirt the rules.

It would be my thought that The APA (or your LO) would consider this a Hybrid and has deemed it as OK - within the rules

I am already well versed from this thread that you have a modified cue for the purpose of jumping and breaking to try to skirt the rules. You have made that clear and I will not have the debate with you again.

Maybe one day we will see it challenged in a match and actually ruled on at the national level. I can only hope when that day comes it is me challenging you because I want to hear you whine like a little girl when I hear them tell you what I already know they are going to tell you. Peace out!

According to the they way it was explained to me, and I got very specific, this would be, according to the APA definition, a regular shooting cue the tip or the material the tip is made from is insignificant. If I were called as a referee to make a ruling on this the call would have to be that the cue is within the rules, as it was explained to me by APA Officials

Sorry Skippy, please recall that I'm in agreement with you as indicated by my earlier posts. I went through several scenarios with the APA folks and got an answer to all of my questions concerning this. I believe (to my eternal shame) that you and I were wrong. It is what it is