Sliding the cue along your chest as a guide?

9 on the snap said:
My girlfriend has the 38 DD's, and I am always telling her to get down lower on the shot. She looks back and says "and how is that supposed to work again?":D
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It really shouldn't matter. Karen Corr and Kelly Fisher use this method. The cue slides along the side of your pectoral muscle not in front of the chest.

On second thought I may need some pictures or video to properly diagnose your girlfriends particular issue. ;) Just kidding.
 
Back when I quit playing pool in 1994, (I sarted in 1992) I was rated a 9 at the Palace in Tulsa. I practiced alot on my stance, and stroke....and alot of guys would stand behind me and comment on how good I looked and what a wonderful stance I had..with my leggs slightly spread..and firmly grabbing the butt of the cue and ever so smoothly gliding the shaft over my bridge hand....:eek: Oh wait.....thats another story


No..I did practice my stance and form alot back then...now that im not in as good of shape as I was back then...being a little overweight, I cant seem to have a consistant stroke...therefore just missing the pocket by just a touch,..what im doing is bringing my arm in on the stroke, therefore changing the spot I hit on the cue ball....what I have started practicing doing is chin down on the cue, cue gliding on my side..this way I have a more consistant hit....I really concentrated on this last night in pool league..and ran 3 racks of 8 ball. I would before miss and wonder why till I actually got to thinking about it. I have been doing it off and on and my consistancy just wasnt there...so maybe if I can get myself to just glide the cue along my side when im down on the shot and do it exactly the same way every time..I will be more consistant......



So yea...I do it.....you have to adapt to your (my) body change...and find what makes your stroke consistant! :thumbup:
 
I must inadvertantly do something like this myself. The reason I know this is that I can never play with a button down shirt. When I do I sometimes catch my thumb in the shirt between the buttons of the shirt. I don't have that problem when I wear a non button shirt. I must tape myself to see how I look and what I do to get my alignment.

Kevin
 
cuekev said:
Angela,

I think I have found my answer. Some snooker coaches teach a four contact point method using grip, bridge, chin and chest. I'm sure that is what Allison is using. I wasn't sure if it was intentional but I am pretty sure now. Karen Corr seems to do it also. The cue is sliding along the side and not in front and stays in contact thru the whole stroke. It seems to be helping my stroke so I'm going to use it. Here is a snooker video with a quick explaination.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=snooker chest&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

Your rep looks a little anemic so let me help ya out.:wink:

Thanks,
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When I was 19, Allison Fisher coached me in Auburn. I guess that's why I use that contact point method since Angela stated she holds her cue away from her chest, while I run my cue along my chest.
 
Sweet Marissa said:
When I was 19, Allison Fisher coached me in Auburn. I guess that's why I use that contact point method since Angela stated she holds her cue away from her chest, while I run my cue along my chest.
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JEALOUS :mad:

Just kidding. That must have been pretty cool! To me she is still by far the greatest of the women players. She is so incredibly consistent with a perfect stroke every time. I taped so many of her matches over the last 15 yrs.
Slow motion is a great thing with a DVR! I think it is finally taking a toll on her. She appears tired.
 
has anyone been able to do this AND keep a pendulum stroke? the cue doesnt stay with my chest or even just the chin with my stroke unless I do a piston type stroke.
 
Johnnyz86 said:
has anyone been able to do this AND keep a pendulum stroke? the cue doesnt stay with my chest or even just the chin with my stroke unless I do a piston type stroke.
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Johnny,

It has been working for me. What has helped is taking my thumb off the cue and cradling it with my fingers. You need to make sure that your grip hand is not choked up too far. Loose grip and forearm 90 degrees to cue with tip of cue within 1/2 inch of cue ball at address helps.

Regards,
 
How does karen use her chest as a guide when she stands so straight on to shoot with her shoulders square? Is everyone sure she uses her chest as a guide?
 
cuekev said:
Johnny,

It has been working for me. What has helped is taking my thumb off the cue and cradling it with my fingers. You need to make sure that your grip hand is not choked up too far. Loose grip and forearm 90 degrees to cue with tip of cue within 1/2 inch of cue ball at address helps.

Regards,
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It can't work with a pendulum stroke because it will go up and down, that is how a pendulum works unless I am mistaken? The chest and chin for me are above the cue so to keep it sliding along ALL points makes it impossible unless you do more than a pendulum stroke OR a very short stroke. Yes my forearm is 90 degrees and I use 3 fingers to grip very lightly.
 
Here are some pictures of Karen's stance:

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(In this picture you can see how long she stays down in her stance)


Here are some photos of Allison's stance

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and Kelly Fisher

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From the pictures and seeing her stance it appears that if anything she uses the underneath aspect of her chest , if anything, as a guide. Doesnt look like the side is used. wouldnt it get in the way though?
 
I would think that from these photos, it would be more precise to say that they obviously use the side of their body, not necessarily the chest. I believe it is used as a guide. If you notice, Karen's stance is very low - so I don't believe "anything" gets in the way.
 
blackjack look at the pic in the multicolored shirt it looks like the cue is right under her chest and karen is not small in that area
 
Blackjack,

Thank you for the pictures. They really help visualize the 4 contact points.

For me the cue travels along the outside of my pectoral muscle. I'm sure it is a little different for everyone.

Johnny,

Yes the cue comes up on the pendulum stroke but for me not that much in the middle of the cue where my chin is. It may not work for you. Everyone is built a little different. I am wondering if you are not holding the cue back far enough.

There are a lot of things that can hurt a pendulum stroke.

1. Tight grip
2. forearm not perpendicular with cue when addressing cue ball.
This will cause you to lung at the cue ball and sometimes twist the wrist.

Allison and Karen hold the cue a little tight and don't follow thru as far as they could. I know it sure doesn't seem to hurt their game. wink: In pool school they teach you to complete the stroke which is is usually in the chest or armpit. The tighter grip will keep you from accomplishing that.
 
so your saying karen does not follow through because she cant? wink...do you think she uses both as a guide and that is why she stands so square to the table maybe she has a groove built into her brasierre wink
 
kcpoolfan said:
so your saying karen does not follow through because she cant? wink...do you think she uses both as a guide and that is why she stands so square to the table maybe she has a groove built into her brasierre wink
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Well, I think it is the tight grip that stops the stroke. If it wasn't I guess it would be a nice soft landing. ;)
 
well if this stance is advantagious for the reasons previously mentioned why dont more players, women specifically, use it? Or is it only advantagious for certain women players?
 
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