Slight wobble on my new cue, what would you do?

tjlmbklr

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We can only hope. I think you been given all the advice you need. Further advice on straightening a shaft, whether over time, or with a device, should be on the cuemakers advice forum.

All the best,
WW
Let's just hope I don't need to straighten it over time.

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jimmyco

NRA4Life
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So don't you think Meucci should have some sort of warranty on shafts that could potentially warp overtime?
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It does not matter what we think. Meucci does not warranty shafts from warpage. This is stated specifically in their warranty.

FWIW, my best playing cue has a shaft with a roll. Several are dead nuts straight, but my favorite bestest is not.

Hope you can put this behind you and go run some racks.
 

garczar

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If my friend, I will keep it IF I know a) it won't get worse, or b) Meucci will replace it.

So in closing; the concept of this cue in perfect condition is a cue I could keep for a lifetime.

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Buy an OB and forget about it.
 

tjlmbklr

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Buy an OB and forget about it.
Yes, because pissing money down the drain is my favorite thing. I'm committed now to this shaft, besides I've had an OB shaft and wasn't a fan of a laminated look not to mention the wood laminated ferrule. Also the Meucci Pro was one of the few shafts I could get a 31" blank to have collar matched to my custom 30" butt.

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tjlmbklr

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It does not matter what we think. Meucci does not warranty shafts from warpage. This is stated specifically in their warranty.

FWIW, my best playing cue has a shaft with a roll. Several are dead nuts straight, but my favorite bestest is not.

Hope you can put this behind you and go run some racks.
Me too, as stated my fear is it will get worse. I visited a friend who I haven't seen in years and he had a Schōn that he had to table because the shaft warped so much over the years.

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WildWing

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Me too, as stated my fear is it will get worse. I visited a friend who I haven't seen in years and he had a Schōn that he had to table because the shaft warped so much over the years.

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When did you visit the friend? What do you mean by he had to table? How old was the Schon?

What the hell are you talking about?
 

pinkspider

Crap user name, I know.
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Me too, as stated my fear is it will get worse. I visited a friend who I haven't seen in years and he had a Schōn that he had to table because the shaft warped so much over the years.

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Cues can stay straight for several years and then move a little after. that's the beauty of wood. cuemakers can do all they can to minimise this risk but it still remains a small risk. it happens even to the best of them.

as hinted by some of the other posters, sending the shaft back to meucci to sort out the problem – assuming that they acknowledge that it is a problem they are obliged to rectify – will take quite a bit of time. typically nobody warranties shafts from warpage over time, or ever... except carbon fibre... you alluded to the fact that this is your only cue so i'm not sure if you're prepared to go for months without it – maybe even years. you only need to search the interwebz for horror stories.

the best way forward is to explore the possibility (however slim) of a (almost unlikely) one-for-one exchange. but seeing yours is a custom spec, that's going to be near impossible. failing which, any restitution that they will offer (if they are willing to entertain you).

But all likelihood is that you live with the shaft... but it's not all bad. if the wobble is minor and maybe apply the fixes suggested in the ask the cuemakers section. wood is going to move anyway. its like any relationship. more than half the time it starts off hunky dory and then it all goes to shit. might as well enjoy it while it lasts. and if you're lucky you end up with a keeper. its all about the compromises.

bottom line is that you like how the cue plays so just stick with that – what if u get your wish and your shaft is replaced but it now plays like doo doo? theres a risk there too...
 

Chopdoc

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Ok, I'm being trolled here?

I had this cue made to satisfy my long quest for the perfect cue to fit me. It's the alright colors and length I like, 61" Ebony and Birdseye maple. The reason I sell all old cues in the past is to offset the cost for when I bought a new one. I'm not a cue collector, I'm a pool player. If this shaft warps 5 years from now I will be pissed because Meucci is doing nothing about it now.



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This is you quest for your perfect cue?

A Schmelke with a Meucci shaft?

You are a pool player, not a collector. I get that. Many change cues like they change socks and don't actually know a lot about cues.

The only one that I am aware of that offers a lifetime shaft warranty is McDermott.

Wood can warp. Even very old very seasoned wood can warp.


What to do about this case?

My immediate response to such a question for a brand new cue is to send it back. Indeed, that may leave you without a cue. Buy a cheap sneaky or play off the wall until the matter is straightened out. Don't wait days or weeks. Don't debate it on forums. Send it back. Request it be fixed or a full refund made.

Whoever made the cue needs to straighten the matter out.

The fly in the ointment is that you bought the shaft elsewhere and had it sent.

You selected a Meucci shaft, why didn't you have Meucci make the cue?

The lesson, as far as I am concerned, is to let your cue maker source the shaft for you, so the entire job is under one warranty.

Meucci is currently offering a free casino trip to their distributors. I guess you know where your money went for your warped shaft.

Attention Meucci Cues Distributors! In appreciation to our loyal distributors we would like to offer you a FREE trip to a select casino!

http://meuccicues.com/

I will not trash a cue maker here in the forum in general. I will just point things out.

Did you see the cell phone video of the Meucci shop tour? Lots to see there.

If you are looking for that "dream cue" consider dropping your money on a custom maker that will work with you to build the whole cue. Don't bargain shop for a "dream cue". Ask the maker about his best shaft stock too...he likely has some hidden in a corner for his "special projects". He might have been holding on to wood longer than you have been alive. Yes, you will pay thousands. But consider the value of the guy making the cue answering the phone himself, and addressing your needs and desires himself.

Yes, Bob Meucci is a custom cue maker. And I respect the man's life work and contributions.

I respect Schmelke as well.

But for a dream cue, I would be looking elsewhere.

If you want a Ferrari don't go to a Ford dealer. They will sell you a Mustang. If you want a Bentley they will sell you a Lincoln.

If you don't know the difference...then go to the Ford dealer with Ferrari or Bentley expectations...you will learn the difference.

I might have suggested Mr Dayton. But he is gone. You know the list of names. Just peruse this forum.
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tjlmbklr

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When did you visit the friend? What do you mean by he had to table? How old was the Schon?

What the hell are you talking about?
Sorry, had to table is an expression for put down and never use again.

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deanoc

AzB Silver Member
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at one time i became a dealer for meci
i bought 17 cues 0n an order
all 17 were crooked
they would not take them back

your problem is you bought a cue from a company that has a history of
problems like you decribe

your best bet is to buy a schon or mc dermott
 

WildWing

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Sorry, had to table is an expression for put down and never use again.

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What was the problem with the Schon? When was it? When did you visit him? Several years, I guess? You sure? Did you see the Schon shaft? Did you test it? How do you know it wasn't good, since you brought this up?

What does this have to do with your cue and shaft?

Have you had just about enough of this yet? Want to take any more questions?

Want to give a bit more specifics? Can we see some pictures of the shaft you have a problem with, as well as your friend's Schon? You obviously have a smartphone, so this shouldn't be much of a problem...
 

poolguy4u

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Meucci is not giving out trips to Vegas.


LOL.................................................


Don't believe everything on the internet.



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tjlmbklr

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Meucci is very busy right now.

If you had a different shaft collar put on by someone else, why would Meucci be responsible?

Send to Meucci and you might have a two year wait to get it back.

Thirty one inches is long...not likely to be straight or stay straight.

You might be better off keeping it and bend it back yourself and just keep it hanging and playing with it.

Typical for Meucci shafts.

This is my fear, because I had a 3rd part handle it they are both playing the 'not my problem' game. I in no way shape or from am blaming Schmelke here, they are great people and make great solid cues on a budget.

Yes, the 31" length could be my issue.
 

jrctherake

AzB Silver Member
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at one time i became a dealer for meci
i bought 17 cues 0n an order
all 17 were crooked
they would not take them back

your problem is you bought a cue from a company that has a history of
problems like you decribe

your best bet is to buy a schon or mc dermott

Been there, done that as well.

Meucci imo, has a very bad reputation as far as warranty work and replacement.

Rake
 

tjlmbklr

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What was the problem with the Schon? When was it? When did you visit him? Several years, I guess? You sure? Did you see the Schon shaft? Did you test it? How do you know it wasn't good, since you brought this up?

What does this have to do with your cue and shaft?

Have you had just about enough of this yet? Want to take any more questions?

Want to give a bit more specifics? Can we see some pictures of the shaft you have a problem with, as well as your friend's Schon? You obviously have a smartphone, so this shouldn't be much of a problem...

This has nothing to do with Schon, I was using it as a an example since a well know cue shaft can warp, and it was warped bad, the tip would raise up like 3/8" everytime you rotated it. So it obviously happened over time since he bought it it was straight. I have no idea how long he owned it either. So my fear is over time mine will warp this bad too. However, I can't speak how he stores his cues and how old it is.

This was recently I visited him when the wife and I were vacationing in AZ.
 

tjlmbklr

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
at one time i became a dealer for meci
i bought 17 cues 0n an order
all 17 were crooked
they would not take them back

your problem is you bought a cue from a company that has a history of
problems like you decribe

your best bet is to buy a schon or mc dermott


This is the best answer I got yet. So in other words, I am screwed.
 

WildWing

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Silver Member
This has nothing to do with Schon, I was using it as a an example since a well know cue shaft can warp, and it was warped bad, the tip would raise up like 3/8" everytime you rotated it. So it obviously happened over time since he bought it it was straight. I have no idea how long he owned it either. So my fear is over time mine will warp this bad too. However, I can't speak how he stores his cues and how old it is.

This was recently I visited him when the wife and I were vacationing in AZ.

So why are you so surprised a shaft of yours might have a bit of warp, and is worth a thread here?

And please, share us some pictures to support your friend's Schon as well as your shaft, which have some problems. Please.
 

tjlmbklr

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Cues can stay straight for several years and then move a little after. that's the beauty of wood. cuemakers can do all they can to minimise this risk but it still remains a small risk. it happens even to the best of them.

as hinted by some of the other posters, sending the shaft back to meucci to sort out the problem – assuming that they acknowledge that it is a problem they are obliged to rectify – will take quite a bit of time. typically nobody warranties shafts from warpage over time, or ever... except carbon fibre... you alluded to the fact that this is your only cue so i'm not sure if you're prepared to go for months without it – maybe even years. you only need to search the interwebz for horror stories.

the best way forward is to explore the possibility (however slim) of a (almost unlikely) one-for-one exchange. but seeing yours is a custom spec, that's going to be near impossible. failing which, any restitution that they will offer (if they are willing to entertain you).

But all likelihood is that you live with the shaft... but it's not all bad. if the wobble is minor and maybe apply the fixes suggested in the ask the cuemakers section. wood is going to move anyway. its like any relationship. more than half the time it starts off hunky dory and then it all goes to shit. might as well enjoy it while it lasts. and if you're lucky you end up with a keeper. its all about the compromises.

bottom line is that you like how the cue plays so just stick with that – what if u get your wish and your shaft is replaced but it now plays like doo doo? theres a risk there too...

Sound advice, thanks.

In the future I may go with a Jacoby Hybrid since last I checked Jacoby had 31" options.

But I am tapped out so no new toys for a while.
 

tjlmbklr

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
This is you quest for your perfect cue?

A Schmelke with a Meucci shaft?

You are a pool player, not a collector. I get that. Many change cues like they change socks and don't actually know a lot about cues.

The only one that I am aware of that offers a lifetime shaft warranty is McDermott.

Wood can warp. Even very old very seasoned wood can warp.


What to do about this case?

My immediate response to such a question for a brand new cue is to send it back. Indeed, that may leave you without a cue. Buy a cheap sneaky or play off the wall until the matter is straightened out. Don't wait days or weeks. Don't debate it on forums. Send it back. Request it be fixed or a full refund made.

Whoever made the cue needs to straighten the matter out.

The fly in the ointment is that you bought the shaft elsewhere and had it sent.

You selected a Meucci shaft, why didn't you have Meucci make the cue?

The lesson, as far as I am concerned, is to let your cue maker source the shaft for you, so the entire job is under one warranty.

Meucci is currently offering a free casino trip to their distributors. I guess you know where your money went for your warped shaft.



http://meuccicues.com/

I will not trash a cue maker here in the forum in general. I will just point things out.

Did you see the cell phone video of the Meucci shop tour? Lots to see there.

If you are looking for that "dream cue" consider dropping your money on a custom maker that will work with you to build the whole cue. Don't bargain shop for a "dream cue". Ask the maker about his best shaft stock too...he likely has some hidden in a corner for his "special projects". He might have been holding on to wood longer than you have been alive. Yes, you will pay thousands. But consider the value of the guy making the cue answering the phone himself, and addressing your needs and desires himself.

Yes, Bob Meucci is a custom cue maker. And I respect the man's life work and contributions.

I respect Schmelke as well.

But for a dream cue, I would be looking elsewhere.

If you want a Ferrari don't go to a Ford dealer. They will sell you a Mustang. If you want a Bentley they will sell you a Lincoln.

If you don't know the difference...then go to the Ford dealer with Ferrari or Bentley expectations...you will learn the difference.

I might have suggested Mr Dayton. But he is gone. You know the list of names. Just peruse this forum.
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Thanks for the advice.

To answer a couple of your questions (highlighted in RED:

1) Asking Meucci to build 61" cue seemed like it would already be well beyond my budget. That and time was a factor, I waited a while to finally pull the trigger on my cue purchase after researching what I wanted, I didn't want to wait for anyone other than Schmelke to build it since I knew he could do it in a reasonable amount of time for a great price. Plus they are local to my state so I wanted to support that. All-in-all the cues total price was $412. Not bad for a 31" LD shaft that I researched found to be the one I want along with a custom to my specs 30" butt. From order of the shaft to the whole cue on my doorstep was less than 8 weeks.

2) I called Schmelke and they said they roll all cues to test for straightness before they leave their facility. Now maybe I am being too critical and maybe they saw what I did and they let it slide considering the circumstances. I will never know.

3) Oh I know the difference. But IMO beyond paying for expensive inlays, or veneers and whatever else that makes a butt expensive makes the cue no more solid and play better, all major brand cues should roll straight after only 6 days of play, don't you agree?
 
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tjlmbklr

AzB Silver Member
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So why are you so surprised a shaft of yours might have a bit of warp, and is worth a thread here?

And please, share us some pictures to support your friend's Schon as well as your shaft, which have some problems. Please.

I could have him send a pic but like I stated, he is in AZ, I am from WI. I could also get more details on how long owned it and when did it start warping
 
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