Slug-Doctor Visits Jay Helfert

I wouldnt use these for 1p. If you hit the 2nd ball, you will more often make the cornerball. No fun in that.

Also in straight pool, when all balls are perfectly frozen - using "tapping" as they often do in tournaments in Europe - there are shots that go almost every time. I have seen players ignore the break ball and go for the "dead ones" - an making them.. Kind of ruins the game.

We played many (30 ish) games of one pocket and I only noticed ONE time when a ball rolled very slightly off of its orignal path. And only one ball was made on the break in One Hole by myself and that was on a typical break, not the second ball break. I broke second ball a couple times and did not make a ball.

Overall I would give the SD an A+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Russ...
 
All Jay needs is the New JP video Dart Boards

I see I am the only 1 to see the (tight) high quality pockets. Thats what helps Jay play so good. Great to see tight pocketed practice tables. good luck with the new racking stuff. JP is ahead and so is England in billiards anything. A friend showed me JP new Dart boards -where you both can see each other playing Darts,and keeping score - but you both play with a home field advantage . definitly high tect- the darts are expensive- and the best part is nobody touches the other guys stuff- no stealing!! Mark
 
We played many (30 ish) games of one pocket and I only noticed ONE time when a ball rolled very slightly off of its orignal path. And only one ball was made on the break in One Hole by myself and that was on a typical break, not the second ball break. I broke second ball a couple times and did not make a ball.

Overall I would give the SD an A+ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Russ...

Im not worried about the ball rolling off, Im worried about when you thin a ball off the pack to play safe. The balls are forced frozen and makes safety play in 14.1 and 1 pocket not good.
 
SD for 1P and 14.1

Does this kill a table for straight pool or one pocket?

It seems great for rotation games, to bust the break open, but for 14.1 or one pocket where there is a lot of safety play involving thinning off the pack... seems like it wont work. All of the balls would be forced frozen, right?

Im not worried about the ball rolling off, Im worried about when you thin a ball off the pack to play safe. The balls are forced frozen and makes safety play in 14.1 and 1 pocket not good.

These are all great questions regarding the Slug-Doctor for 14.1 and 1P. I would like to find out answers as well. Unfortunately, my personal experience with these two disciplines is very limited so commenting on how well it works would not be wise on my part.

Cleary- Since he recently played 1P with Jay, I'm hoping maybe "poolhustler" could comment on your question regarding thinning a ball off the pack to play safe.


Regards,
Abe - i4pool
 
Im not worried about the ball rolling off, Im worried about when you thin a ball off the pack to play safe. The balls are forced frozen and makes safety play in 14.1 and 1 pocket not good.

Let me preface by saying that I am an aspiring one pocket player. Not advanced by any means. But I do know some moves!!

I didn't notice any issues with balls rolling funny on a thin hit into or off of the pack.

Maybe a more experienced one pocket player can try out the SD and give some better feedback.
 
I am also by no means an experienced one pocket player, but I have been using the SD for several months now on my home table as well as other places. I haven't had an issue yet playing one pocket where thinning a ball off of the stack didn't work out the way I thought it would. I don't play 14.1, so I can't speak from experience there, but I imagine it would be the same. The thing that differentiates the SD from the Magic Rack in these situations is the thickness of the plastic dots. The dots are significantly thinner than the plastic used for the Magic Rack, which is why they don't affect the roll of the balls as much.

I played in the Swanee a few weeks ago, and I saw my opponents miss two balls that were sitting on the Magic Rack when they shot at them. They missed because they skidded a little bit right after contact. I have yet to see that happen with the dots, and I can only conclude it is because of the thickness, combined with the fact that the dots adhere to the table, while the Magic Rack is loose. Please don't take this as me bad mouthing the Magic Rack, because I think it is a great product, and I used it prior to getting the Slug Doctor. It's just that now that I have the Slug Doctor, I don't need to use Magic Rack anymore.

The dots used with the Slug Doctor only hold the balls in place if you get them dead center in the hole, which isn't hard after you've used the template to fix them to the table. You can actually sit a ball on the edge of a dot and not have it roll in. I think this is why it works well for one pocket. The balls do start out frozen, but small adjustments to the stack are possible with thin hits. The stack does not explode, unless you hit it too full.

Johnny
 
I wouldnt use these for 1p. If you hit the 2nd ball, you will more often make the cornerball. No fun in that.Also in straight pool, when all balls are perfectly frozen - using "tapping" as they often do in tournaments in Europe - there are shots that go almost every time. I have seen players ignore the break ball and go for the "dead ones" - an making them.. Kind of ruins the game.[/


Ive never heard such a thing


I would love to see this
 
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I'm definitely on board in getting this system on my table and would be looking to have it done on a few tables at the pool room I frequent here in AZ.

One question I have is when it comes to 1 pocket and Jay I was hoping you could be the one person to answer this. Because of so many balls staying in the rack area and getting moved ever so slightly each time the stack is contacted do you find that there are ANY instances of 2 balls freezing together whereas without these rings on the table the balls might have gaps?

I guess I'm concerned that with 1 hole you look for wired balls towards your hole and with balls freezing together on the rack circles this could be an issue.

Just curious!

As far as I can tell, the balls are moving as they normally would. The rings are actually thinner than on the Magic Rack, which also works good.
 
Does this kill a table for straight pool or one pocket?

It seems great for rotation games, to bust the break open, but for 14.1 or one pocket where there is a lot of safety play involving thinning off the pack... seems like it wont work. All of the balls would be forced frozen, right?


From what I can see, the balls are coming apart easily. I don't notice any difference when playing One Pocket.
 
Two Weeks

Thanks to all for your input in this thread. :thumbup:


Hey Abe,

I have your 9/10 ball rack which I absolutey love, but I play way more straight and 8 ball pool. What is the 15 ball attachment? Is there any way to just purchase the clear 15 ball plate separately?

Thanks,

Corey


Let me know when the eight ball one is ready. I'll buy it.

Hi Corey & Luxury,

8-Ball Attachments ready in two weeks!

Click here for pre-order details ----->
LINK

-Abe
 
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