Smokers

I love to smoke. One day I will be inducted into the smokers hall of fame.

However, I am in favor of a universal smoking ban in public places including private establishments.

I think it will be one of the best things to happen to the sport of pool.

It will allow more people to come to the pool hall without having to breathe all the smoke. I think it will open up pool establishments to younger players as well. If pool players do not reach out to the younger generation pool may not have a future. A smoking ban will help in this area.
 
Wow, this thread has came back from the dead.

However I think many of you missed the topic. It isn't about the pros/cons of smoking, or if you think it should be banned/illegal etc. Its about the blatant disrespect that other smokers have while at the table.

If you want to smoke fine, but put your fecking cigarette in the ashtray while you are shooting.:mad:
 
Sore_Aintya said:
Wow, this thread has came back from the dead.

However I think many of you missed the topic. It isn't about the pros/cons of smoking, or if you think it should be banned/illegal etc.
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It is now.....

I hate smokers. They are forcing ME to ingest THEIR drugs and second hand smoke kills people. That would be like a heroin addict shooting up everybody around them as well as themselves.

Hell, our gov wages war on pot, which kills nobody, and lets smokers push their poison on millions of non-smokers. I remember when smoking was allowed on airplanes. As soon as that "no smoking" light went off, the cabin went up in smoke. I wanted to strangle these revolting drug addicts. They don't care about anything but their next nicotine fix.

My evil neighbor recently died of lung cancer. Couldn't have happened to a bigger SOB. lol..... Die, smokers DIE!
 
Who's right to health?

The smoker's or the non smoker. If you are a smoker you should respect the ones around you. In my state you have to go outside to smoke. In states where indoor smoking is legal, you have the right Not to patronize establishments which permits smoking. I don't believe that you have the right to tell someone how to run their business. I disagree with the indoor smoking ban, not because I'm a smoker but because I believe the business operator has the right to run his business as he sees fit. If you don't like it don't go there or work there. He'll go out of business without patrons so the market takes care of the p[roblem. Instead of legislating how I live my life, why not exert your influence with your pocket book. Boycott the businesses you disagree with and if enough people feel the way you do, the business will have to change it's practice or go out of business.

Just a little enon 101 from

McCue Banger McCue
 
stroke said:
It is now.....

I hate smokers. They are forcing ME to ingest THEIR drugs and second hand smoke kills people. That would be like a heroin addict shooting up everybody around them as well as themselves.

Hell, our gov wages war on pot, which kills nobody, and lets smokers push their poison on millions of non-smokers. I remember when smoking was allowed on airplanes. As soon as that "no smoking" light went off, the cabin went up in smoke. I wanted to strangle these revolting drug addicts. They don't care about anything but their next nicotine fix.

My evil neighbor recently died of lung cancer. Couldn't have happened to a bigger SOB. lol..... Die, smokers DIE!
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Wow you sound like you really need to loosen up. Also, if this post is not facetious then you really sound like an a**hole. Even more so than the guy chainsmoking Winstons and blowing it right in the face of a one year old child.
 
I wish Florida would ban indoor smoking as well. If all the poolrooms in my area (5 of them) had to adhere to the law we room owners could survive. But if one or two allow smoking and the others don't I promise you the non smoking rooms would go out of business. They law needs to apply to all businesses then we poolrooms could survive. As it stands now the law says if your food profits are more than 10% than you must be non smoking. So we quit making food to accomodate the smokers because we don't want to lose the business. I am concerned for my customers health as well as my own working in that environment...
As for the origninal post, I wonder if people who smoke over the table are truly serious about pool...it is disrespectful and one can't play with a stream of smoke in one's eyes.
phm
 
I just can't resist a quote from 'WONDERBOYS'...

The narrator is practicing for a straight pool tournament...working out with Billy Hodgkins (his real name)...learning the game...

"Billy was in his thirties with a babyface and a boy's regular haircut. The kind I wore when I was ten. He stuck his right toe up in the air, and hit the balls with more straight pool authority than I've ever seen. He smoked, and dangled a cigarette from his lips when he whacked in his break shots. He teased me by never dropping the ash on the table. Sometimes that ash was two inches long, and after a smashing break shot, Billy turned to me with the ash still intact, and instructed that you have to keep your head still."
 
StraightPoolIU said:
Wow you sound like you really need to loosen up. Also, if this post is not facetious then you really sound like an a**hole. Even more so than the guy chainsmoking Winstons and blowing it right in the face of a one year old child.
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Darned right I'm angry about it. Lung cancer ain't no fun.

I don't believe that you have the right to tell someone how to run their business. I disagree with the indoor smoking ban, not because I'm a smoker but because I believe the business operator has the right to run his business as he sees fit.
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That's a very good argument and one with which I wrestle. Don't you remember though that you couldn't fly without having a minority of passengers sending up clouds of toxic smoke in that enclosed airplane? Airlines are private businesses. Everyone, including children and babies were forced to breath those toxins . One could argue that you simply fly a different airline, but they ALL allowed smoking and for many of those people flying, driving was not an option The flight attendants were smokers by default. Some of them died as a result. The rights of drug addicts should not trump the rights of people to live and work in a healthy environment.
 
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Oh boy ....

This campfire has been burning bright.

1) Both smokers and nonsmokers display a lack of manners and common cuurtesy. Some people just need reminded now and then, and some never
learned to begin with. (personally, I find piercings unattractive, or seeing someone's underwear above their pants unattractive)
2) I would much rather be around a considerate smoker than a inconsiderate nosmoker.
3) Live and let live - it's a free country. You will be much happier if you
live by this philosophy.

Yes, I smoke. For 44 years now. No, I don't want to quit, I enjoy it.
Yes, I am considerate of other people, and I have good manners about it.
No, I don't want government telling me I can not have the freedom to smoke, as to restrict my basic rights in this country. I exercise regularly, and have all my life.

I am a 3 time Vietnam Veteran.

Medical ailments associated with being overweight, and not exercising, are much greater than ailments thought to be associated with smoking. Perhaps, we need mandatory exercising conducted by our country or companies everyday.

Smog in L.A. is much more dangerous than second hand smoke, IMO.

If second hand smoke is so dangerous, don't you think there would be a few dogs that would die of lung cancer since many are confined where there owners smoke a lot.
 
Snapshot9 said:
If second hand smoke is so dangerous, don't you think there would be a few dogs that would die of lung cancer since many are confined where there owners smoke a lot.
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lol..... They might be dying of lung cancer but you can't determine the cause of death without an autopsy. Not many dog owners pay for one.

I don't think that anybody actually enjoys being a drug addict. I can understand enjoying a puff of tobacco every now and then with a beer but being a slave to this drug or any drug, is revolting.
 
Ok Airlines are public access travel without alternative with respect to time and distance. It is also a vital part of infrastructure. When public access is a must then regulation might be in order. By the same token I'd be willing to wager that if an airline went into business as a smoking airline, they'd have no shortage of passengers or willing employees. I still say the market should prevail, but then again there has to be balance.

Incidently I don't find addiction to be repulsive. I find the reaction to it to be repulsive. To make an otherwise law abiding citizen a criminal because of a bad habit is rediculous. Addiction is a tragic thing. How torrmenting it must be to know you don't have control over your actions. These people need help not stigmatazation.

McCue Banger McCue
 
Merlinium said:
Smoking is banned in all enclosed public places in Scotland but this does not stop eedjits from putting drinks on tables, ........ Forget banning smoking, ban inconsiderate eedjits.
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Couldn't agree more. Only fight I ever got into on a bar was over a idiot putting a full frosted mug on a pool table, right where the rack would be. :mad:

One of the reasons I quit smoking was because it was difficult to hunt down an ash tray when it was time to shoot.
 
Without reading every post in this topic, heres my thoughts:

My regular poolroom has signs around the room stating no sitting/leaning on the tables and no smoking over the tables, for the most part there isnt much trouble at all. The regulars all pretty much watch out around the room for anyone who might be smoking over the tables and either say something directly to the person or they let the counter know about it, its about respect of the business and the way we look at it is if we keep an eye out for potential damage to the tables, then we do not have to worry about having to play on damaged tables.

Our room has a pretty good air purifying system with smoke eaters and a great air exchange system, overall I would say its smoker friendly as well as non-smoker friendly.
 
DelaWho??? said:
To make an otherwise law abiding citizen a criminal because of a bad habit is rediculous. Addiction is a tragic thing. How torrmenting it must be to know you don't have control over your actions. These people need help not stigmatazation.

McCue Banger McCue
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I agree that they shouldn't be criminalized. Stigmatized, YES.
 
In Australia, smoking whilst performing a shot is a 2 stroke penalty, even if it isn't over the table.

Daniel:D
 
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