Hi Chuck. Im curious. What happens with that bottle of wine if you dont like the sample?desi2960 said:
some cue buyers are idiots
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desi2960 said:
Hi Chuck,
I am curious....Can you describe the differences in feel for the different types of pins?
I have used 3X10 pins mostly and some radial pins.
Which do you think is the best pin for feel?
What about a hardwood or resin pin? How do they feel?
Very interesting.
When i started my thread about cuemakers, i never actually named one.
Yet, some cuemakers were offended and instead turned it around on the buyers.
Well, it doesn't matter what the hit is if the points and inlays don't line up.
It's JUNK.
Once a cue guy can manage to get over that line them up hump, THEN people might like the cue better and try the hit out.
Why would a cuemaker get upset when they weren't named?
Guilty conscience?
When i started my thread about cuemakers, i never actually named one.
Yet, some cuemakers were offended and instead turned it around on the buyers.
Well, it doesn't matter what the hit is if the points and inlays don't line up.
It's JUNK.
Once a cue guy can manage to get over that line them up hump, THEN people might like the cue better and try the hit out.
Why would a cuemaker get upset when they weren't named?
Guilty conscience?
It doesn't help you if you want your own design custom cue, but the last two weeks I have went to 2 dealers, Bill at Cornerstone and Doug at DWBOD, they could not have been nicer, I was there for 2 hours with each, played with SW, Gina, Tas, they let me hit any cue I wanted, no pressure to buy, if you are spending that kind of money, it is well worth the expense to take the day off and go test these great cues. I am lucky to have great cue dealers in the Michigan area.
dont take this personal superstar
but i think that there is just too much hate and negativity on this forum. you trying to make it look like it was one of my cues, in an attempt to make me look bad. that type of junk should stop. it was not one of my cues and you know that you are just trying to stir up sXXXX. there are people that are capable of working with there hands and there are people that cannot. i have found that most of the criticism comes from people that cannot. i find that they try to make themselves look better by attempting to make someone else look bad. okinawa77, the test is done just to prove how difficult it is to tell the different between pins. i know people that say they can tell the difference, but i cannot tell the difference in the hit of all metal pins they all feel the same to me. tellitlikeitis, i have never went with the waiter back to the wine cellar to find out, they just bring me another bottle. chuck
but i think that there is just too much hate and negativity on this forum. you trying to make it look like it was one of my cues, in an attempt to make me look bad. that type of junk should stop. it was not one of my cues and you know that you are just trying to stir up sXXXX. there are people that are capable of working with there hands and there are people that cannot. i have found that most of the criticism comes from people that cannot. i find that they try to make themselves look better by attempting to make someone else look bad. okinawa77, the test is done just to prove how difficult it is to tell the different between pins. i know people that say they can tell the difference, but i cannot tell the difference in the hit of all metal pins they all feel the same to me. tellitlikeitis, i have never went with the waiter back to the wine cellar to find out, they just bring me another bottle. chuck
what pin in the cue
no i cannot. i have never met anyone that could tell the pin size just by hitting a few balls with a cue. we have done the blindfold test at the pool hall and quite a few people cannot tell the difference in a one or two piece cue. chuck
no i cannot. i have never met anyone that could tell the pin size just by hitting a few balls with a cue. we have done the blindfold test at the pool hall and quite a few people cannot tell the difference in a one or two piece cue. chuck
SUPERSTAR said:
A pool cue is nothing more than a tool used to move balls around. Since, in my opinion, no two cues play exactly the same, you want a cue that will last for a long length of time so that when you play with it you are building your ability, or "eye" as it's usually called instead of adapting to how the new cue plays. So now we know that we want a cue that will not fall apart quickly and we would want it to perform as a cue should under our particular requisites.
Now, we would like this tool to look nice but this is not a requirement for a cue to last a long time nor play as we would expect. So, why would the inlays not lining up make this tool junk in your opinion. Aesthetically they may not be perfect but as a tool for playing pool they may be perfect. Under your conditions a Southwest or a Gina cue would be junk just because an inlay doesn't line up. Does this make any sense? Years ago, Joss West cues often had 4 points and 5 or 6 windows in the butt collar. Only one, of coarse, would line up with a corresponding point. Would you call these cues junk? An awfully lot of collectors would call you wrong.
Dick
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desi2960 said:
Chuck-
With all due respect, your thread is completely and utterly ridiculous. I mean, lets face it! This whole thread reeks of lunacy and contradictions from the very start.
Its clear that this thread is a shot at SUPERSTAR for starting HIS thread about cuemakers who don;t line up points and inlays.
To that, all I can say is... whatever man. I mean, if you really object to SUPERSTAR's thread and the negativity in it, why start a thread calling for an end to the negativity and title it "Cue buyers are idiots!!!" Call me crazy but that doesn't seem like a great business tactic to me.
Furthermore, this place is about people sharing opinions. Why is it that you (and a slew of others) think the only opinions that should be shared are RAVE REVIEWS???? Isn't one of life's lessons that you must learn to take the good with the bad? Surely you didn't think that people were going to share opinions and agree every time, did you? Tell me you don't really feel like positive opinions are all that people should express here. If so, maybe being in business for yourself isn't the best bet for you, cause I got news for ya: Not everyone is going to like your product and not everyone is going to keep their feelings to themselves!!!
Everyone has different tastes. Agreed? Therein lies the basis of conflict, or "negativity" as you call it. People aren't always going to agree. But who is to say who's opinions are allowed to be shared and who must bite their tongues???
Personally, I'm with SUPERSTAR. I wouldn't buy a cue that didn't have even points, lined up rings, inlays, points, etc.
When spending money on a cue, its an investment. Its something that you are going to either have for a long time (thus the reason for wanting it to look perfect) or you are going to sell it. And if thats the case, good luck getting the price you want if this things don't line up.
JMO.
-B
desi2960 said:
WOW!
You really have issues don't you.
Considering that i have no clue what brand of cue you make, and have no idea who you are, you can rest easier at night knowing that i did not name you or anyone else in my original thread. People that can and can't work with their hands? WTF are you talking about? I don't make cues, and if i did, they most likely would be crooked, so i am not trying to make myself look better in any way shape or form. but i have to tell you, you are doing a spectacular job of making yourself look bad. BIG TIME . So if you don't sell cues with crooked points, WTF DOES IT HAVE TO DO WITH YOU?
You actually got bent, so naturally, i think your secretly feeling guilty of something. Why else would you get upset?
Having said that, if you are going to get so hostile simply because a buyer can't believe that a cuemaker, WHOEVER THEY MIGHT BE, actually let a piece of junk leave their shop, that speaks volumes about what type of person you are.
Too much negativity? Take a friggin look in the mirror buddy. You see that guy that is staring back at you?
THAT'S the guy who's got all the negativity. That's the guy who's got his undies in a bunch simply because someone pointed out a flaw in a cue that might not even be yours.
Based on your responses, and the attitude you display, i can guarantee that i would never buy anything from you.
Your the type of guy who would try and convince me that the cue i am hitting with, despite not liking it, is something that was perfect for me.
What a waste of space
desi2960 said:
Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were saying you could tell the difference by the feel of the hit.
My questions were serious.
I've always wondered about resin pins or other non-metal pins.
-Mathew
P.S. When I first starting playing pool, I purchased several different cues to try them out because they didn't allow test hits. Now, I have a closet full of cues that I can't get rid of.
I don't think I'll buy another cue in a very long time.....maybe never.
I've got a primary playing cue, back up, and jump/break...and I don't plan on using/purchasing anything else.
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desi2960 said:
Chuck -
With all due respect, you didn't really make a point. All you did was get defensive and angry, start pointing fingers, called people names, and then asked for an end to the negativity.
Basically, if contradicting yourself and looking silly in the process was your point, then yeah. I guess you made it.
Posting pictures of children can already be touchy. And making fun of a retarded person, or making fun of someone else at a retarded person's expense, is just wrong. But posting a picture of a retarded child about to get run over by a car, all the while making fun of them, is offensive on all kinds of different levels (even when you know it's photoshopped). You should apologize and remove the picture. Really.SUPERSTAR said:
