Ok - this is in relation to my sale of the Schon in the classifieds.. Let's see what you all think.
I put the Schon up on ebay, it sells. Give the guy ten days and no response. I file an unpaid item claim, I have to wait 8 more days before I can be credited. Tried to contact the guy a few more times.... nothing. Ok, you get negative feedback.
I post the Schon here on Jun 28 and get a few responses. One from a guy (from IL, I'm in TX) who wants to do a cash + trade deal, sure - that works. On June 28, he said he will mail a money order, wants me to mail the Schon, and when he gets this he will mail the final cue. The guy has under 10 posts, so I am kinda skeptical, but am leaning towards the trusting side, so I agree (he has been very responsive on email). I email him on June 30 to ensure that he has already infact mailed the money order, and his response is "on the way."
Fast forward to July 8. I email with "have you mailed the MO, I haven't seen anything yet..." and get the prompt reply of, "yeah, i mailed it a while ago." I give this the benefit of the doubt due to the 4th of July holiday weekend and continue waiting. July 10th - exact same thing. Not once in this time has he emailed or called asking if I had received his money. I know that if I sent $300, I'd want to know when/if it is received. I emailed another time, got no response, only an "out of office on business" reply. So it's been over two weeks and nothing has happened yet. I finally email him and tell him that if he were to cancel his original payment and overnight something, I'd pick up the cost. I get no reply for 36 hours, so I'm cutting my losses on even more time at this point. If by some chance of luck I actually get the money order, it will be returned to sender.
I post the cue back for sale yesterday, and a deal is made within a few hours and marked sold for the 3rd time. Last night I get an email from the 2nd buyer:
"What the hell is the matter with you??? I will be going to the state's attorney on monday morning with all your emails, a copy of the money order and file fraud charges.
Goddamn scammer."
I reply with:
"Heh... I didn't scam anything at all. I have never received any
money order or anything at all. I have proof that you said you mailed
something as of July 1st and nothing has been received.
I waited over 2 weeks and nothing is here. I am the furthest thing
from a scammer. There was no fraud, sorry..."
His response:
"we'll see what the authorities have to say after they see everything."
My reply:
"You've GOT to be kidding me.....
Hey, do what you gotta do. Fraud is only considered if payment is
sent, received, and cashed, which none of the three occurred...."
His final response, which I am not replying to...
"I would say my carbon copy of the money order would say different."
Now - as innocent bystanders in this, wouldn't you be a bit more concerned if you mailed $275 to a complete stranger, weeks had passed and nothing was received? I mean, Christ! I emailed the guy 3 times asking about his payment, which he showed absolutely no concern over until I decide not to sell it to him.... Sorta made me think how long it would be until I got the final cue in trade after he already had the Schon, if I even get it at all!!
This is just unreal..... How I "scammed" him is beyond me... I left out who it was as they are on this board, but if they want to post up, go ahead. I did nothing wrong and will not screw anyone.
Ross
I put the Schon up on ebay, it sells. Give the guy ten days and no response. I file an unpaid item claim, I have to wait 8 more days before I can be credited. Tried to contact the guy a few more times.... nothing. Ok, you get negative feedback.
I post the Schon here on Jun 28 and get a few responses. One from a guy (from IL, I'm in TX) who wants to do a cash + trade deal, sure - that works. On June 28, he said he will mail a money order, wants me to mail the Schon, and when he gets this he will mail the final cue. The guy has under 10 posts, so I am kinda skeptical, but am leaning towards the trusting side, so I agree (he has been very responsive on email). I email him on June 30 to ensure that he has already infact mailed the money order, and his response is "on the way."
Fast forward to July 8. I email with "have you mailed the MO, I haven't seen anything yet..." and get the prompt reply of, "yeah, i mailed it a while ago." I give this the benefit of the doubt due to the 4th of July holiday weekend and continue waiting. July 10th - exact same thing. Not once in this time has he emailed or called asking if I had received his money. I know that if I sent $300, I'd want to know when/if it is received. I emailed another time, got no response, only an "out of office on business" reply. So it's been over two weeks and nothing has happened yet. I finally email him and tell him that if he were to cancel his original payment and overnight something, I'd pick up the cost. I get no reply for 36 hours, so I'm cutting my losses on even more time at this point. If by some chance of luck I actually get the money order, it will be returned to sender.
I post the cue back for sale yesterday, and a deal is made within a few hours and marked sold for the 3rd time. Last night I get an email from the 2nd buyer:
"What the hell is the matter with you??? I will be going to the state's attorney on monday morning with all your emails, a copy of the money order and file fraud charges.
Goddamn scammer."
I reply with:
"Heh... I didn't scam anything at all. I have never received any
money order or anything at all. I have proof that you said you mailed
something as of July 1st and nothing has been received.
I waited over 2 weeks and nothing is here. I am the furthest thing
from a scammer. There was no fraud, sorry..."
His response:
"we'll see what the authorities have to say after they see everything."
My reply:
"You've GOT to be kidding me.....
Hey, do what you gotta do. Fraud is only considered if payment is
sent, received, and cashed, which none of the three occurred...."
His final response, which I am not replying to...
"I would say my carbon copy of the money order would say different."
Now - as innocent bystanders in this, wouldn't you be a bit more concerned if you mailed $275 to a complete stranger, weeks had passed and nothing was received? I mean, Christ! I emailed the guy 3 times asking about his payment, which he showed absolutely no concern over until I decide not to sell it to him.... Sorta made me think how long it would be until I got the final cue in trade after he already had the Schon, if I even get it at all!!
This is just unreal..... How I "scammed" him is beyond me... I left out who it was as they are on this board, but if they want to post up, go ahead. I did nothing wrong and will not screw anyone.
Ross
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