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I know it's 6 or 7 months a head of time but I'd like to start planning. Can anybody who's been give some information on the diffenrent events and cost to play things like that for the 2013 Southern classic?
 
I was there this year. The tournaments and entry fees are all exactly like DCC. There is also a website for the Southern Classic, although I forget the link right now.
 
I was there as well.

I actually met "iusedtoberich", altho he may not remember. He had just gotten a quick lesson from Geno Albrecht. Gotta be 6'5" or so. Tall drink of water. We talked for a few minutes as the 10-ball on 10-footers was going on. But, I digress.........

What exactly would you like to know? I'll share any details you like, but I know much more about the Open event stuff than the Amateur ones.
 
I was there as well.

I actually met "iusedtoberich", altho he may not remember. He had just gotten a quick lesson from Geno Albrecht. Gotta be 6'5" or so. Tall drink of water. We talked for a few minutes as the 10-ball on 10-footers was going on. But, I digress.........

What exactly would you like to know? I'll share any details you like, but I know much more about the Open event stuff than the Amateur ones.

Well I'm relatively young lol and besides a few local tournament this is my first time stepping out on a much bigger stage so I'm sure whatever I get into is gonna be a lil overwhelming I honestly don't know the questions to ask basically I need a budget idea. And I thought about the amature and pro side but don't know which to attempt! Do I play in the amature series to see what am made of or do I play with the pros and and give it everything I've got and say " hey I've played with some pros"
 
Well, I'm 38, so a bit more long in the tooth than a lot of the top, young gun pros. You won't be the youngest guy there, I don't think, so I wouldn't let age bother you. Landon Shuffett was only 18 and he walked tall amongst everyone. With that said, I'm an amateur that took 15 years off from the game and just started back last year. But, I'm having so much fun that I decided to jump in head first.

Tunica was my first big event in my "career" and it was honestly life-changing. I've never had so much fun in my life. I brought some nice clothes and ended up playing in the 1-Pocket and 9-Ball Open. I shot some of the best pool of my life and for the first time, truly felt like a pool player.

I only wandered over a couple of times to the amateur area and that was mostly to get in to see the big action games. They had about 75 Diamond bar boxes for events, but I never saw more than about 20 being used at a time. The rest were coin-op, so I don't really know what was going on. I think there might have been some glitches with the way those tournament were ran, but I'd guess that a lot of that would be ironed out this next time around. The action stuff was in other rooms on 9-footers.

The Open events in the casino went flawless, as least as far as I could tell. The TV table was there. Accu-Stats was there. Danny DiLiberto. Billy Incardona. Jay Helfert. John Brumback. Shannon Daulton. SVB. Thorsten Hohmann. Earl Strickland. Landon Shuffett. Brandon Shuff. Darren Appleton. John Morra. Adam Smith. Corey Deuel. Johnny Archer. Alex Pagulayan. Dennis Orcollo. Warren Kiamco. Charlie "Hillbilly" Bryant. Nick Varner made a cameo appearance. I think CJ Wiley was there, but I never saw him..........the list could go on and on. And on and on.

If you're really into the pool scene, every time you turn around you're going to bump into a "famous" player. I recognized most of them pretty quickly, but there were a few personalities that I knew the name, but not the face. After several days it began to be normal to walk past Shannon Daulton and say, "Hi, Cannon.......". He might not have remembered my name, but no big deal. I understand that they meet a lot of people. But, everyone was nice as pie. And that includes Earl. I'm a huge fan of his, so I was worried that meeting him would ruin it for me. Earl is exactly how you see him on TV when he's at the table. When he's in the lounge hangin' out.....well, he's still Earl, but a much more calm version. He's different, but likeable. At least for the few times that I had conversations with him. I think the thing about Earl is that he TRULY LOVES the game. He just has his own ideas for it. But, don't we all.

My vote is to hang around the Open event area. Play in at least 1 Open event. Get your feet wet. Everyone treated me nicely there and no one looked down on me (at least that I could tell) because my skill level was nowhere near theirs. You won't be the only amateur in the Open. On the contrary. There will be dozens upons dozens upon dozens. An event such as this is a great life experience IF YOU LOVE POOL.

I got the 10-day hotel package and split it with a roommate (more on that later). The hotel on-site was very nice. It was literally a 1-2 minute walk from there to the Convention Center where the amateur events were held. A casino shuttle came around every 15 minutes or less that would take you to Harrah's for the Open events. The shuttle ride lasted maybe 4-5 minutes. Maybe.

As for meals, there is a food court just outside the Open event area. Anyone who went last year will wince when I mention these names, but here goes......

Quizno's
Some unknown pizza oven thing
Fudrucker's

I had Fudrucker's once when I lived in Texas and wasn't impressed with it. The pizza didn't look great, so I literally ate Quizno's about 7 times in the first 3 days I was there. It was good food. By the 7th time I had it, the mere mention of the letter "Q" made me queasy. No fault of theirs. It was just overload. I probably should have tried more things on the menu.

I ate Fudrucker's once. Again, not impressed.

HOWEVER, I asked someone around Day 4 how the pizza was. "Looks like shit....tastes great!" was the response. So, I tried it. It was FANTASTIC! Well, for at least for casino food court pizza. I pretty much had that for the rest of the week and it was consistently pretty good.

Now, on a couple of occasions, I went upstairs and ate at Paula Deen's Kitchen. It was priiiiiicey, but very, very good. Recommended. Also, Shannon Daulton said that he had one of the best steaks of his life at a place called "37" (I think) in the casino. So, upscale steak joint for ya.

Otherwise, you have to drive or shuttle to other casino's for food. I wasn't ever really tempted. Oh yeah, there's a Dunkin' Donuts in there that I think is open all night.

Hotel: ~$40 a night. (If you can split a room with someone)
Food: ~$15-20 a day. (Maybe less, if you're extremely thrifty or don't eat much)

Bank Pool: $110 entry with a $50 buy-back option.
1-Pocket: $135 entry with a $75 buy-back option.
9-Ball: $160 entry with a $100 buy-back option.

If you enter one of those events, you get a Player's Pass that will allow you free roaming of the Open area and you can hit balls on 9-foot Diamonds till your heart's content....well, pretty much when the tournament isn't going on. I think up until about 11 p.m. or so. Then they kinda shut down and a guy comes around to each table. You can still stay and play, but the Diamond's become coin-ops (really!). As is, I would get there about 9 a.m. or so on most days and warm-up and play for a while. Then I'd either being playing a match or sweating matches. As the evening wore on and some tables came open, I'd jump back on and just play and play and play. If players came up and said they had a scheduled match, I just packed up my stuff and moved on. No biggie. Everyone was doing that. You can also sit in the TV table area and watch the Accu-Stats matches with the Player's Pass. If no one is sitting VIP seat right next to the table, you can even sit there. If a VIP comes up, you'd have to move, but I never had it happen to me.

If you see Freddy the Beard advertise for the "Old School Pool Seminar"......don't think. Just do it. Had a GREAT time with him, DiLiberto and Incardona.

It really depends on what you want to do when you get there. How far you're driving. How often you need to eat. Etc. etc.

Hard numbers for me:

$150 fuel. I live 3+ hours away. No biggie, but I have a CrewCab truck. Mileage sucked.

$375 hotel. I had a roommate.

$370 entry fees. I played in the 1-Pocket, but didn't buy back. Played in 9-ball and DID buy back.

$0. Never spent a dime on table time.

$0. Didn't play in any amateur events.

$20 for an AWESOME book by Danny DiLiberto. Fantastic read.

$225 for food. Give or take over 10-11 days. Rough estimate, but probably pretty close.

$30 for 3 Accu-Stats videos. Joined their Video-of-the-Month club as well. Pretty much every video is $9.95 plus S&H. I get 1 a month shipped to me. Great investment.

$50 for random stuff right outside the Open event room. There was a really, really nice cuemaker set-up there. I had him clean my shaft up. He did a very nice job. Also bought some chalk, joint protectors, chalk case, etc. etc. from him. Tried to do my part to make it worth his while to be there.

$100 Old School Pool Seminar. Crash courses on Straight Pool, 1-Pocket and Bank Pool with the Beard, DiLiberto and Incardona. Road stories abound. It's a must to attend.

$0 for a quick lesson from Geno Albrecht. He's a helluva nice guy and I enjoyed my time with him.

$125 for a 2-hour lesson from the young pro Adam Smith. Went over some mental stuff. Talked about my expectations for MY pool game. Went over visually aiming and most importantly THE PRE-SHOT ROUTINE. Talked about the stroke. He gave me some drills. We played a few games. Great time. Even had dinner with him a few times later. Very articulate, professional guy. I would consider him a friend now.

There might be other stuff, but I honestly can't think of anything. So, I spent close to $1500. It's a chunk of money, I know. But, it was my vacation and I didn't regret a single dime. It was actually a bit cheaper than I thought it would be, so that's why I signed up for the 1-pocket. I hadn't even planned on playing in it. So, that was a bonus.

If you have any more questions, feel free. As you can see, I like to ramble.

OOOOOOOOOH YEAH......if you don't know a pro or very good amateur player......do your best to try to get to know them. They need roommates too. ;) The wealth of info that I got from spending time OFF THE TABLE with a well-known player was priceless in itself.


P.S. I won't have to buy any videos while I'm there, well, at least from Accu-Stats. I figured out halfway thru the week that drink refills were free in the food court, so I can save a bit more money there. I probably have enough pool trinkets, so I won't worry about that stuff. I figure by being there once and knowing what corners to cut, I SHOULD be able to play in all the Open events and possibly use all my buybacks and not spend much more than what I did the first time around.
 
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Well, I'm 38, so a bit more long in the tooth than a lot of the top, young gun pros. You won't be the youngest guy there, I don't think, so I wouldn't let age bother you. Landon Shuffett was only 18 and he walked tall amongst everyone. With that said, I'm an amateur that took 15 years off from the game and just started back last year. But, I'm having so much fun that I decided to jump in head first.

Tunica was my first big event in my "career" and it was honestly life-changing. I've never had so much fun in my life. I brought some nice clothes and ended up playing in the 1-Pocket and 9-Ball Open. I shot some of the best pool of my life and for the first time, truly felt like a pool player.

I only wandered over a couple of times to the amateur area and that was mostly to get in to see the big action games. They had about 75 Diamond bar boxes for events, but I never saw more than about 20 being used at a time. The rest were coin-op, so I don't really know what was going on. I think there might have been some glitches with the way those tournament were ran, but I'd guess that a lot of that would be ironed out this next time around. The action stuff was in other rooms on 9-footers.

The Open events in the casino went flawless, as least as far as I could tell. The TV table was there. Accu-Stats was there. Danny DiLiberto. Billy Incardona. Jay Helfert. John Brumback. Shannon Daulton. SVB. Thorsten Hohmann. Earl Strickland. Landon Shuffett. Brandon Shuff. Darren Appleton. John Morra. Adam Smith. Corey Deuel. Johnny Archer. Alex Pagulayan. Dennis Orcollo. Warren Kiamco. Charlie "Hillbilly" Bryant. Nick Varner made a cameo appearance. I think CJ Wiley was there, but I never saw him..........the list could go on and on. And on and on.

If you're really into the pool scene, every time you turn around you're going to bump into a "famous" player. I recognized most of them pretty quickly, but there were a few personalities that I knew the name, but not the face. After several days it began to be normal to walk past Shannon Daulton and say, "Hi, Cannon.......". He might not have remembered my name, but no big deal. I understand that they meet a lot of people. But, everyone was nice as pie. And that includes Earl. I'm a huge fan of his, so I was worried that meeting him would ruin it for me. Earl is exactly how you see him on TV when he's at the table. When he's in the lounge hangin' out.....well, he's still Earl, but a much more calm version. He's different, but likeable. At least for the few times that I had conversations with him. I think the thing about Earl is that he TRULY LOVES the game. He just has his own ideas for it. But, don't we all.

My vote is to hang around the Open event area. Play in at least 1 Open event. Get your feet wet. Everyone treated me nicely there and no one looked down on me (at least that I could tell) because my skill level was nowhere near theirs. You won't be the only amateur in the Open. On the contrary. There will be dozens upons dozens upon dozens. An event such as this is a great life experience IF YOU LOVE POOL.

I got the 10-day hotel package and split it with a roommate (more on that later). The hotel on-site was very nice. It was literally a 1-2 minute walk from there to the Convention Center where the amateur events were held. A casino shuttle came around every 15 minutes or less that would take you to Harrah's for the Open events. The shuttle ride lasted maybe 4-5 minutes. Maybe.

As for meals, there is a food court just outside the Open event area. Anyone who went last year will wince when I mention these names, but here goes......

Quizno's
Some unknown pizza oven thing
Fudrucker's

I had Fudrucker's once when I lived in Texas and wasn't impressed with it. The pizza didn't look great, so I literally ate Quizno's about 7 times in the first 3 days I was there. It was good food. By the 7th time I had it, the mere mention of the letter "Q" made me queasy. No fault of theirs. It was just overload. I probably should have tried more things on the menu.

I ate Fudrucker's once. Again, not impressed.

HOWEVER, I asked someone around Day 4 how the pizza was. "Looks like shit....tastes great!" was the response. So, I tried it. It was FANTASTIC! Well, for at least for casino food court pizza. I pretty much had that for the rest of the week and it was consistently pretty good.

Now, on a couple of occasions, I went upstairs and ate at Paula Deen's Kitchen. It was priiiiiicey, but very, very good. Recommended. Also, Shannon Daulton said that he had one of the best steaks of his life at a place called "37" (I think) in the casino. So, upscale steak joint for ya.

Otherwise, you have to drive or shuttle to other casino's for food. I wasn't ever really tempted. Oh yeah, there's a Dunkin' Donuts in there that I think is open all night.

Hotel: ~$40 a night. (If you can split a room with someone)
Food: ~$15-20 a day. (Maybe less, if you're extremely thrifty or don't eat much)

Bank Pool: $110 entry with a $50 buy-back option.
1-Pocket: $135 entry with a $75 buy-back option.
9-Ball: $160 entry with a $100 buy-back option.

If you enter one of those events, you get a Player's Pass that will allow you free roaming of the Open area and you can hit balls on 9-foot Diamonds till your heart's content....well, pretty much when the tournament isn't going on. I think up until about 11 p.m. or so. Then they kinda shut down and a guy comes around to each table. You can still stay and play, but the Diamond's become coin-ops (really!). As is, I would get there about 9 a.m. or so on most days and warm-up and play for a while. Then I'd either being playing a match or sweating matches. As the evening wore on and some tables came open, I'd jump back on and just play and play and play. If players came up and said they had a scheduled match, I just packed up my stuff and moved on. No biggie. Everyone was doing that. You can also sit in the TV table area and watch the Accu-Stats matches with the Player's Pass. If no one is sitting VIP seat right next to the table, you can even sit there. If a VIP comes up, you'd have to move, but I never had it happen to me.

If you see Freddy the Beard advertise for the "Old School Pool Seminar"......don't think. Just do it. Had a GREAT time with him, DiLiberto and Incardona.

It really depends on what you want to do when you get there. How far you're driving. How often you need to eat. Etc. etc.

Hard numbers for me:

$150 fuel. I live 3+ hours away. No biggie, but I have a CrewCab truck. Mileage sucked.

$375 hotel. I had a roommate.

$370 entry fees. I played in the 1-Pocket, but didn't buy back. Played in 9-ball and DID buy back.

$0. Never spent a dime on table time.

$0. Didn't play in any amateur events.

$20 for an AWESOME book by Danny DiLiberto. Fantastic read.

$225 for food. Give or take over 10-11 days. Rough estimate, but probably pretty close.

$30 for 3 Accu-Stats videos. Joined their Video-of-the-Month club as well. Pretty much every video is $9.95 plus S&H. I get 1 a month shipped to me. Great investment.

$50 for random stuff right outside the Open event room. There was a really, really nice cuemaker set-up there. I had him clean my shaft up. He did a very nice job. Also bought some chalk, joint protectors, chalk case, etc. etc. from him. Tried to do my part to make it worth his while to be there.

$100 Old School Pool Seminar. Crash courses on Straight Pool, 1-Pocket and Bank Pool with the Beard, DiLiberto and Incardona. Road stories abound. It's a must to attend.

$0 for a quick lesson from Geno Albrecht. He's a helluva nice guy and I enjoyed my time with him.

$125 for a 2-hour lesson from the young pro Adam Smith. Went over some mental stuff. Talked about my expectations for MY pool game. Went over visually aiming and most importantly THE PRE-SHOT ROUTINE. Talked about the stroke. He gave me some drills. We played a few games. Great time. Even had dinner with him a few times later. Very articulate, professional guy. I would consider him a friend now.

There might be other stuff, but I honestly can't think of anything. So, I spent close to $1500. It's a chunk of money, I know. But, it was my vacation and I didn't regret a single dime. It was actually a bit cheaper than I thought it would be, so that's why I signed up for the 1-pocket. I hadn't even planned on playing in it. So, that was a bonus.

If you have any more questions, feel free. As you can see, I like to ramble.

OOOOOOOOOH YEAH......if you don't know a pro or very good amateur player......do your best to try to get to know them. They need roommates too. ;) The wealth of info that I got from spending time OFF THE TABLE with a well-known player was priceless in itself.


P.S. I won't have to buy any videos while I'm there, well, at least from Accu-Stats. I figured out halfway thru the week that drink refills were free in the food court, so I can save a bit more money there. I probably have enough pool trinkets, so I won't worry about that stuff. I figure by being there once and knowing what corners to cut, I SHOULD be able to play in all the Open events and possibly use all my buybacks and not spend much more than what I did the first time around.


Lol thanks!! Can I play in both amature and pro divisions?? Or do I just pick one?
 
You SHOULD be able to play in both, but you definitely better talk to the tournament directors at both venues, so that they can try to work around you. I'm pretty sure there were people doing that.

I know that I told them that I was going to participate in the Old School Pool Seminar and to work around my match if they could. They said they could do that, but when we all looked at the schedule, it turned out I wouldn't be playing during the time of the seminar, so it was a non-issue. But, they seemed perfectly fine about working with me on it.

I never dealt with the tourney directors in the amateur building, so I honestly can't tell you what they might say or do. You would think there would be some cooperation there, but I'm not sure.

Any more questions? :)
 
I don't think have any at the moment!! I'm just super pumped now haha thanks for all your help and if I do come up with something else I will definetly look you up!!
 
Is there official word that it is happening again?

I was there 6 of the days and had a great time but won't play in the amateur events again. Super expensive to play and terrible payouts, plus it wasn't run very well. The pro side was much better but i can't win so....

i will go back and watch the One Pocket and 10 ball pro events but no chance I compete in the amateur side. I know many others feel the same way because I talked to them about it.
 
Nate, what other fast food places were there? I wouldn't mind a little extra variety.

I don't believe we ran into each other there. You should sign up for one of the Open events to get that Player's Pass. We can hit some balls.

The last I heard was that it will be May 10th-18th. Don't quote me on that, tho. I'm sure there will be an announcement at the DCC.
 
Nate, what other fast food places were there? I wouldn't mind a little extra variety.

I don't believe we ran into each other there. You should sign up for one of the Open events to get that Player's Pass. We can hit some balls.

The last I heard was that it will be May 10th-18th. Don't quote me on that, tho. I'm sure there will be an announcement at the DCC.

There is Waffle House, Wendy's, Sonic, Subway, and all of the other casinos have different food court type places and buffets also.

I may play in the One Pocket and Banks this year and would be happy to meet up with you. I have no chance in the rotation games so I doubt I play in them
 
Amateur v. Official Events

You SHOULD be able to play in both, but you definitely better talk to the tournament directors at both venues, so that they can try to work around you. I'm pretty sure there were people doing that.

I know that I told them that I was going to participate in the Old School Pool Seminar and to work around my match if they could. They said they could do that, but when we all looked at the schedule, it turned out I wouldn't be playing during the time of the seminar, so it was a non-issue. But, they seemed perfectly fine about working with me on it.

I never dealt with the tourney directors in the amateur building, so I honestly can't tell you what they might say or do. You would think there would be some cooperation there, but I'm not sure.

Any more questions? :)

I played in both last time. Both sets of tournament directors were helpful but I came to realize you could not advance very far in both because the amateur events would require some extensive back to back match play and that would conflict with the official derby-style events. Since I prefer the derby banks and 1P play I doubt I will try to do both again next year.
 
I know it's 6 or 7 months a head of time but I'd like to start planning. Can anybody who's been give some information on the diffenrent events and cost to play things like that for the 2013 Southern classic?

anyone know the dates this year?
 
I am not sure on the dates. I have heard that it would be in May, then somewhere online tonight (and I can't remember where) I read that it was mid-to-late June. Either way, I'll be there.

Bob
 
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