Southwest Cue Prices

Ken_4fun

Ken_4fun

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Guys -

Help me here if you would. I have owned a couple Southwest cues, but I have always bought them on the secondary market.

I think I understand the market pretty well on the seconday, but I dont know what the current prices are from Laurie right now.

My point is it helps me negotate prices on new cues if I know pretty much how much the seller has in it.

So many people buy a Southwest only to sell it as soon as they get it.

Thanks,

Ken
 
Ken,

With all due respect, why does it matter what someone "has in it"? If I found a SW in a pawn shop for $200 bucks, does that make it worth less than the "market rate"?

Thanks,

Doug
 
Salamander said:
Ken,

With all due respect, why does it matter what someone "has in it"? If I found a SW in a pawn shop for $200 bucks, does that make it worth less than the "market rate"?

Thanks,

Doug
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Well Doug, when you negotiate a price, it does matter.

If I can buy a cue pretty cheap, I can turn it a little easier. IF I have $2K in a cue, tough for me to take quite a bit less. IF I can pick the same cue up for $1500 and sell for $1800, I am okay with it.

So Doug, do you know the current pricing from Laurie, or just sharing you wisdom on selling cues? :rolleyes:

Ken
 
Ken_4fun said:
Well Doug, when you negotiate a price, it does matter.

If I can buy a cue pretty cheap, I can turn it a little easier. IF I have $2K in a cue, tough for me to take quite a bit less. IF I can pick the same cue up for $1500 and sell for $1800, I am okay with it.

So Doug, do you know the current pricing from Laurie, or just sharing you wisdom on selling cues? :rolleyes:

Ken
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Ah, I get it, cue flipping Ken. I still don't think it matters what you have "in the cue"....and yes, I'm sharing my wisdom on selling cues. I also know what the current prices are from SW, but that is top secret information. :rolleyes:

Doug
 
Genius

Salamander said:
Ah, I get it, cue flipping Ken. I still don't think it matters what you have "in the cue"....and yes, I'm sharing my wisdom on selling cues. I also know what the current prices are from SW, but that is top secret information. :rolleyes:

Doug
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You are a genius...:rolleyes:
 
Isnt this a school day?

Salamander said:
Thank you. If I did not find cue flipping so distastful, I could probably learn something from the master. Happy flipping! ;)
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Shouldnt you be at an elementry school somewhere?

Your going to miss out on your afternoon nap.....

Go away.

Ken
 
There is nothing wrong with flipping cues. It's no different than any other hobby such as guns , cars or watches.

You win some you lose some. Just a matter of being in the right place at the right time with the cash $$$$$$$$.:)
 
Look up their contact info here and give them a call for current pricing.

South West Cues
4608 Nolan Lane
Las Vegas, Nevada 89107

702-870-9615
swcue@aol.com
 
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lenoxmjs said:
There is nothing wrong with flipping cues. It's no different than any other hobby such as guns , cars or watches.

You win some you lose some. Just a matter of being in the right place at the right time with the cash $$$$$$$$.:)
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Yes, I agree with this, to a point. I just don't respect people like cue flipping Ken who are blatant about it. It's the same people that will buy a cue on AZ, turn around and try and sell it in the same place a day later to make $100. It's petty and it's cheap. If you find a SW at pawn shop for a $1, and sell it for 2K (market value), then I want to know what pawn shop you go to!

My original question was "what does knowing what you have in it" have to do with buying and selling? I can't help it if Ken gets all "bent out of shape" over a simple question. I obviously hit a nerve.

If Ken wants to know what the current prices that Lauri charges for a SW, why doesn't he ask her himself? She's just an email away. Brilliant!!
 
Why?

I do not want to disturb this little death match, but why are Southwest prices so top secret? Actually after the thread came up I was quite curious about the outcome. Maybe someone will share the secret with the whole wide world. Regards, Tim
 
Lucky#Nine said:
I do not want to disturb this little death match, but why are Southwest prices so top secret? Actually after the thread came up I was quite curious about the outcome. Maybe someone will share the secret with the whole wide world. Regards, Tim
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It's not secret at all, I was joking. The prices depend on the woods used, number of laminates, inlays, etc....Like all things the price changes.

Laurie is quick to repond to all questions if you email her. Now, I have to go back to class, we just got done playing dodge ball, and it was really neat.

Doug
 
This was posted a few months ago by another AZer :P

Ordered mine Feb. 6, 1998 Price $1200 or so. 1998
Received it August, 2007 9 years 5 months and 15 days.
Ivory Ferrules, Nose: GAB Points: GAB Laminates: Wh/Blk/Wh
Base: GAB A & B rings.

Price: $1350 A & B Rings $225 Ivory Ferrules $170 Ship: $35

TOTAL DELIVERED IN 9 YEARS: $1780
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Tim

Lucky#Nine said:
I do not want to disturb this little death match, but why are Southwest prices so top secret? Actually after the thread came up I was quite curious about the outcome. Maybe someone will share the secret with the whole wide world. Regards, Tim
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Tim -

I had basically quit this thread, but you asked the exact question I asked. I just asked a simple question and thought with the group we have here, it would be a pretty routine answer. I did not intend for some goofy nit to get on here and give me a lecture of how terrible I am for buying and selling cues.

Yes, nit, I do buy and sell cues...sometimes from AZ, sometimes from other places. I do not hold a gun to anyones head, but locals and others come to me with cues needing cash, I have cash to buy cues, and I do. Mostly I intend on turning a profit,,,,,imagine that. In my signature, are some that I currently have in my collection.

My impression of Southwest cues has always been the same,,,,they always seem to hold their vaule better than most. I am not particularly impressed with them as they offer little artistic value or individuallity. They mostly play pretty well, but I have had and do have cues that play better....IMO.

My other impression of Southwest cues is a ton of them are on order...and it really is a joke. A large number are on order because there isnt a "deposit" required. I have spoken with alot of top cuemakers about this and they just smile and shake their heads.

Moreover, nit, for exactly this reason, people get their Southwest cues after this amazing nine year wait, without any intention of keeping it, they just ordered it because no deposit required and the thought of this terrible thing in your mind "FLIPPING" cues.

So for these bad bad people (at least in your mind) that are selling (flipping) this Southwest cue, I am trying to be better informed on Lauries current pricing. Yes, I am aware I could call Laurie, but I thought I could get the information here just as easy.

As I have been told, Laurie has a guy she calls whenever one of these people who have been on a waiting list for 9 years no longer wants a cue and she sells it to him. It isnt such an unusual thing for them, and he takes them all.

The other rumor I have heard is Laurie has new pricing in effect. Her point is she no longer wants someone to buy a cue from her and then immediately add some amount to the price and sell it. She would rather her pricing reflect that of the market.

As Forest Gump says,,,,"Thats all I have to say about that":rolleyes: Maybe some on here need to heard it those terms.

Ken
 
With regard to the initial question, I think I may be missing the question. I don't think you making money on a cue has much to do with what it sold for new unless you are into it too high. Then, shame on you for buying into a cue too high and not being able to recoup your money. You simply didn't know the market for the cue you bought. I think would agree with this approach for any cue by anyone. Example: Buy almost any cue at full retail and try to sell it even close to that price. Its not what the cue retails for, it is what it will sell for on the open market. Likewise for those who follow the pricing in the Blue Book religiously. The Blue Book never bought a cue. It is only worth what someone will pay for it. As a flipper, you need to research what that $$$ figure is and buy into the cue cheaper. I have a buddy who has purchased several cues over the years that he will die with because they will never be worth the money he has into them. But he has purchased others that are now worth 2-3 times what he paid. I have bought/sold about 200 cues over the past 15-20 years, and only lost money on 1, and that was a marginal ($40) loss.

I think your main concern is what can I get into a cue for and still make money when I flip it? You should be able to adequately know what price range you need to stay under when buying in order to flip for a quick buck.

I disagree with those who complain about flippers paying peanuts for a cue then trying to flip it to make money. You don't have to buy at any price, just say no and walk away.
 
Ken,
Hope you don't get offended with my note. Apparently we were typing about the same time.

I agree with your comments about making money on the cues, as anyone can attempt to do the same. I just don't believe that knowing what a new cue sells for has much relevance in the market value of a cue.
 
Well.

cuenut said:
Ken,
Hope you don't get offended with my note. Apparently we were typing about the same time.

I agree with your comments about making money on the cues, as anyone can attempt to do the same. I just don't believe that knowing what a new cue sells for has much relevance in the market value of a cue.
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Scot -

I am not offended at all. Youre tone shows respect and I offer it to you the same.

Again, maybe it is just me but let me say it this way. If I bought a cue for $1500 and can sell it for $1800 I would do that without much thought. If I bought it for $2000 and I have to sell it for $1800 I am not wanting to do that. The cues that I am looking at are "NEW" Southwest cues, that I feel have been bought with the intent of resaleing. I do not know where they are "in" on these new cues. Is it the $2K or the $1500?

Face it Southwest cues are far from rare, but amazingly are still holding value.

If I buy a cue right I can sell (turn, flip, whore, whatever) right.

Your friend in pool,

Ken
 
nothing wrong with flipping cues, or anything for that matter. personaly, i dont do it myself as i fall in love with every purchase. but profit is what makes the world go around.
since this is about southwest i would like to see laurie raise the prices. as a southwest fan, i would rather pay more rather than wait 9 years for a my own design.
 
cuenut said:
Ken,
I just don't believe that knowing what a new cue sells for has much relevance in the market value of a cue.
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Exactly! This is what I was trying to get across to the dullard who originated this thread.

By the way, Ken doll should look up the word "nit", he fits perfectly.


Doug
 
As I start typing my reply to this thread there's a voice in the back of my head that says "turn back now before it's too late". In all seriousness, I understand Ken's wanting to know what the new prices of Southwest cues are. I do know the prices, I've got one coming in a month or so. In an earlier thread someone had copied a price of someone else's cue order. I will say this, I had one delivered about the same time and that price quote was a little low. But nevertheless, IMO it doesn't matter what the new prices are, it's what the market will bring. You just have to know going into it what you're willing to spend and stick to your guns. I did some research before I bought a Southwest cue from Ken and I know EXACTLY what he paid for it. That didn't stop me from buying it. Although I paid close to top dollar for this cue, I didn't buy it with the intention of flipping it. It's my everyday player. Footnote to Ken: The ferrules were represented as ivory...they're not. But it still didn't stop me from buying it. I liked the cue and it plays great.
 
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