Stack Leather Wrap

I find it amazing that everytime I mention my prices, some has the "you get what you pay for" crap. I've been repairing cues, FULL TIME, for 11 years. I am in all three Blue Books. I probably repair more cues than anyone. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) I have a customer base of 1.5 million pool players. The reason I can price things cheaper is buying power, volume, and experience.

So here's what I'll do. Hey jdelcue@emory.e, send me your cue and I will install the stack wrap for free. You can then judge my work.
 
ratcues said:
I find it amazing that everytime I mention my prices, some has the "you get what you pay for" crap. I've been repairing cues, FULL TIME, for 11 years. I am in all three Blue Books. I probably repair more cues than anyone. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) I have a customer base of 1.5 million pool players. The reason I can price things cheaper is buying power, volume, and experience.

So here's what I'll do. Hey jdelcue@emory.e, send me your cue and I will install the stack wrap for free. You can then judge my work.
PM me an address, I'll be the guinnea pig.... :) :D Cue can be in the mail in 30 minutes! I'd like to provide an unbiased opinion, of course..... :p
 
ratcues said:
I find it amazing that everytime I mention my prices, some has the "you get what you pay for" crap.

OORRRR, you could just raise your prices! :p

FWIW, the way I read SKINS post was that he was referring to the OPs initial inquiry about finding the cheapest stack leather wrap job. Several of us responded in a similar manner - cheaper is rarely better. I did not interpret his post as being in direct response to your price quote.

If it was, fine. There might be a perception issue if your prices are substantially lower than anyone (everyone?) elses. It does not mean that your work isn't outstanding, but it might mean that you are creating a false impression about your work.
-von
 
So what you are saying is that I should raise my prices to give the impression that my work is worth it? Sorry, I cannot do that to my customers. I do not need to gouge people to keep my shop afloat. I have an equation of materials plus labor and my prices are what they are. Feel free to pay more if you want. You are passing up one of the best in the business.
 
Uhh, no. That's not at all what I wrote.

It was more about perception vs. reality.

And I'm not passing up on anybody! I'm actually thinking about trying you next time, since i paid RJH Cues $340.00 for my last refinish and stack leather job....

Like many here, I simply don't know you or your work. When I need repair, I think "Scot", not "Rat" :p :p And THAT is your true challenge....

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
 
{quote}Like many here, I simply don't know you or your work. When I need repair, I think "Scot", not "Rat" :p :p And THAT is your true challenge....

I'll see what I can do about changing that. ;)
 
does the stack leather or even leather require you to re-groove the handle, if the handle originally has linen? I once heard that leather required a deeper grove to accomodate the leater as it's thicker than linen... your thoghts?
 
linen groove = stacked leather

It's my understanding that a stacked leather wrap will fill a stock/irish linen wrap groove; however, any other leather wrap is somewhat thicker which may need some TLC :rolleyes: :eek: :D
 
Thanks a lot for the offer RatCues!!! The cue which I was considering having wrapped is a plain 4 point cocobolo on maple Chris Nitti which I have on the way in the mail...

I'll be in touch with you as soon as I receive the cue. And surely, you cannot expect me to ask you to do this kind of work for free...

We can discuss it once I receive the cue. Thanks for the opportunity!
 
issycue said:
does the stack leather or even leather require you to re-groove the handle, if the handle originally has linen? I once heard that leather required a deeper grove to accomodate the leater as it's thicker than linen... your thoghts?

The leather is thicker than linen in its raw form. It gets wound around the cue and then sanded down to match the cue. Then it gets stained, burnished, sealed, shined, and sealed again.
 
VonRhett said:
OORRRR, you could just raise your prices! :p

FWIW, the way I read SKINS post was that he was referring to the OPs initial inquiry about finding the cheapest stack leather wrap job. Several of us responded in a similar manner - cheaper is rarely better. I did not interpret his post as being in direct response to your price quote.

If it was, fine. There might be a perception issue if your prices are substantially lower than anyone (everyone?) elses. It does not mean that your work isn't outstanding, but it might mean that you are creating a false impression about your work.
-von

your right von. i was thinking of nothing but the original post. in fact i thought i made it perfectly clear that i didn't want to knock anyones work in anyway and didn't know how many makers do this work well. i do understand my "timing" after certain posts might seem like there is some ulterior motive but i assure all makers who posted in this thread i meant no disrespect to them. i really try to stay away from that as i'm involved in cue making as well and understand the scrutiny you can be put through.
 
Its cool guys. Maybe I'm a bit gun shy these days. :cool:

Shoot straight, my friends. Ryan
 
ratcues said:
I find it amazing that everytime I mention my prices, some has the "you get what you pay for" crap. I've been repairing cues, FULL TIME, for 11 years. I am in all three Blue Books. I probably repair more cues than anyone. (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) I have a customer base of 1.5 million pool players. The reason I can price things cheaper is buying power, volume, and experience.

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Hey Rat...don't change your pricing structure. Folks who use your services appreciate it. I want to say that I had Rat Cues make me a replacement shaft, and the work was great. Very reasonable price, top quality workmanship. I would not hesitate to send a cue to him to be repaired or wrapped.
Joe
 
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