Stan shuffet and cte pro one

[BC21]

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We're all lazy in our own ways. Lol. But not many people I know can keep up with my schedule. I'm not a couch potato. I don't sit and watch hours of tv. I'm not a time waster. When I do happen to watch TV, I have an electric guitar in my lap and I'm running through riffs and licks, unplugged of course. But my daughter is always telling me to play it softer. When most people say there isn't enough hours in a day, it's because they napped longer than they intended, or because they got caught up in some rerun on TV and wasted an hour or more glued to the screen. Some of us actually are busy, and I mean all the time, with exception to little breaks like this one, where I was able to read and reply to a few posts.

 

[BeiberLvr]

We're all lazy in our own ways. Lol. But not many people I know can keep up with my schedule. I'm not a couch potato. I don't sit and watch hours of tv. I'm not a time waster. When I do happen to watch TV, I have an electric guitar in my lap and I'm running through riffs and licks, unplugged of course. But my daughter is always telling me to play it softer. When most people say there isn't enough hours in a day, it's because they napped longer than they intended, or because they got caught up in some rerun on TV and wasted an hour or more glued to the screen. Some of us actually are busy, and I mean all the time, with exception to little breaks like this one, where I was able to read and reply to a few posts.

Speak of the devil. I'm actually sitting here with my acoustic in hand.

 

[BC21]

Speak of the devil. I'm actually sitting here with my acoustic in hand.

Excellent! I envy you. I'm about to climb under a car to drop the gas tank. Damn fuel pumps.

 

[hogie583]

No dig. Just stating the obvious fact that when a pool player realizes he needs to improve his game, he must invest the time needed for such improvement. I am content with my game. But if I were a weaker player in search of improvement, I'd invest the time needed to gain improvement.

People act like they do in this forum because other people, through their own insecurities and defense mechanisms, read too deeply into general comments, taking words like, "if I were a weaker player", to a personal level. Everything is looked at through the me me me perspective.... What did this guy just say about me? Why is he calling me out? B that's not how I play! Etc....

The reality of it is, what you consider a "dig" is not a dig. I am not calling anyone for any group out. My "weakness" statement in no way refers to any player using any system, or no system at all. It simply means that if I thought my skill level was weak compared to the caliber of players I run with, I'd probably invest more time into practice, or more time into learning a new method of playing. It is about my impression of myself, not your impression of me or yourself.

As far as time... the cool thing about forums is that you can take them with you, mobile, anywhere you go. Right now I'm waiting on a guy outside of AutoZone. I don't have a table or cue on me. Tonight I'll be at band practice with a guitar strapped over my shoulder. The drummer will take several smoke breaks. I may plunk a few strings or browse the forums while he's out. No cue, no table. So yes, the opportunity to hit the forums 10 minutes here, 20 minutes there, is scattered throughout little fragments of loose time. That is not an option when it comes to table time -- it is a scheduled activity, not a fleeting activity. I

Im beginning to understand your post (you) now after this last thread!

 

[sixpack]

Excellent! I envy you. I'm about to climb under a car to drop the gas tank. Damn fuel pumps.

New thing where I live is thieves are drilling holes in gas tanks and stealing gas. So causing $2300 damage to rip off $45 in gas. It's happened 3 times in the last week in our relatively small town.

What I hate the most about thieves is how inefficient they are for the economy.

 

[BC21]

New thing where I live is thieves are drilling holes in gas tanks and stealing gas. So causing $2300 damage to rip off $45 in gas. It's happened 3 times in the last week in our relatively small town.

What I hate the most about thieves is how inefficient they are for the economy.

wow. There's nothing lower than a thief.

 

[paultex]

wow. There's nothing lower than a thief.

Hmmm oh well, when I play orcollo, it will be just like stealing. And you know what? This jason shaw fellow is pissing me off.....taking all my easy work.

I tried CTE for a few shots last night and I can't see them edges too well any more and my stroke alignment is way too overcut fo'dat manggg.

I see alignment and my stroke arm is becoming electromagnetic.

 

[nobcitypool]

BC21, can you help a bit with your resume? Stan once finished 19th in the the US Open. He taught his Son Landon whose accomplishments speak for themselves. Stan has put in thousands of hours, has every teaching certification I'm aware of and posted dozens of instructional videos. The list goes on.

On the other hand, I searched your name and pool player, came up with nothing except your poology. Looks like most of the hype for that is self generated. I saw no links to videos to even partially explain what you're selling. I saw no links to your tournament accomplishments or any pro players using your system. By your own admission, you put a couple of hours per week into pool. Strange resume for a guy spending a lot of his time here questioning Stan's system and teaching abilities.

Then I read a few of your posts and it is blatantly clear you've spent minimal time studying and experimenting with CTE at the table. How can I tell? You wouldn't be asking those questions if you had any understanding.

At two hours per week, if you focus on learning CTE and give it an open minded try, you should begin to get it in a month or two. Or, you can consult Dan or Lou, who both seem to have a similar pool resume to your own, and they can help you with all the reasons CTE doesn't work. It never ceases to amaze me how so many people can "expertly"analyze all the reasons a system won't work when it is blatantly clear they are clueless about how it does.

I'm open to any system that can help my game. How about posting 8 to 10 videos about your system to give me an idea of what it is all about. If it seems like it has anything to offer, I'll gladly spend $9.99 on your ebook version. A little more about your pool expertise might help my decision as well. How many US Open top 10 finishes to you have? Or at the Derby? Or any notable tournaments for that matter. What professionals are you working with?

 

[BC21]

BC21, can you help a bit with your resume? Stan once finished 19th in the the US Open. He taught his Son Landon whose accomplishments speak for themselves. Stan has put in thousands of hours, has every teaching certification I'm aware of and posted dozens of instructional videos. The list goes on.

On the other hand, I searched your name and pool player, came up with nothing except your poology. Looks like most of the hype for that is self generated. I saw no links to videos to even partially explain what you're selling. I saw no links to your tournament accomplishments or any pro players using your system. By your own admission, you put a couple of hours per week into pool. Strange resume for a guy spending a lot of his time here questioning Stan's system and teaching abilities.

Then I read a few of your posts and it is blatantly clear you've spent minimal time studying and experimenting with CTE at the table. How can I tell? You wouldn't be asking those questions if you had any understanding.

At two hours per week, if you focus on learning CTE and give it an open minded try, you should begin to get it in a month or two. Or, you can consult Dan or Lou, who both seem to have a similar pool resume to your own, and they can help you with all the reasons CTE doesn't work. It never ceases to amaze me how so many people can "expertly"analyze all the reasons a system won't work when it is blatantly clear they are clueless about how it does.

I'm open to any system that can help my game. How about posting 8 to 10 videos about your system to give me an idea of what it is all about. If it seems like it has anything to offer, I'll gladly spend $9.99 on your ebook version. A little more about your pool expertise might help my decision as well. How many US Open top 10 finishes to you have? Or at the Derby? Or any notable tournaments for that matter. What professionals are you working with?

Stan is definitely a pro caliber player and has been since the late 1970's. His teaching career and family life is probably the only reason he never became a household name in the professional pool world. All of this, by the way, was years before Hal Houle's CTE and before Stan became an instructor. His son, Landon, is a fabulous player. He was a child prodigy and started playing when he was 5. Stan helped shape the kid's talent. By the time Landon was 10 he had already been on Ripley's Believe It or Not and a handful of other tv shows. Thus was also prior to Stan getting into CTE. So as impressive and deserving of respect both Stan and Landon are when it comes to pool playing talent, it can't really be attributed to CTE.

As far as myself....here is my youtube channel.....https://youtu.be/ryenIBwdn34

I have never played a professional tournament, never claimed to be a pro player. I'm not a certified instructor nor have I claimed to be. I am a solid player that took a different road, which ended up putting pool on a back burner, always there, but not my primary focus. I have written a book to help other players become better shot makers. That's it. No impressive resume or professional pool accomplishments.

I once got 27 ERO's one league season. Having been away from league for 5 years until now, I am currently ranked #1 out if 110 players, though I did lose a game last week and may have dropped to #2. I have won countless little tournaments in several states over the last 34 years in both 8ball and 9ball. I compete and hold my own with the best players in my area. I love pool and everyone that plays pool.....always have.

 

[Dan White]

BC21, can you help a bit with your resume? Stan once finished 19th in the the US Open. He taught his Son Landon whose accomplishments speak for themselves. Stan has put in thousands of hours, has every teaching certification I'm aware of and posted dozens of instructional videos. The list goes on.

On the other hand, I searched your name and pool player, came up with nothing except your poology. Looks like most of the hype for that is self generated. I saw no links to videos to even partially explain what you're selling. I saw no links to your tournament accomplishments or any pro players using your system. By your own admission, you put a couple of hours per week into pool. Strange resume for a guy spending a lot of his time here questioning Stan's system and teaching abilities.

Then I read a few of your posts and it is blatantly clear you've spent minimal time studying and experimenting with CTE at the table. How can I tell? You wouldn't be asking those questions if you had any understanding.

At two hours per week, if you focus on learning CTE and give it an open minded try, you should begin to get it in a month or two. Or, you can consult Dan or Lou, who both seem to have a similar pool resume to your own, and they can help you with all the reasons CTE doesn't work. It never ceases to amaze me how so many people can "expertly"analyze all the reasons a system won't work when it is blatantly clear they are clueless about how it does.

I'm open to any system that can help my game. How about posting 8 to 10 videos about your system to give me an idea of what it is all about. If it seems like it has anything to offer, I'll gladly spend $9.99 on your ebook version. A little more about your pool expertise might help my decision as well. How many US Open top 10 finishes to you have? Or at the Derby? Or any notable tournaments for that matter. What professionals are you working with?

This is such a silly, uninformed post that it hardly merits a response. I'd be a little embarrassed...

 

[nobcitypool]

This is such a silly, uninformed post that it hardly merits a response. I'd be a little embarrassed...

Never seems to bother you Dan. I'm surprised you could make that response and keep a straight face. Instead of your ambiguous response, why don't you enlighten everyone on the silliness and misinformation though?

 

[BC21]

This is such a silly, uninformed post that it hardly merits a response. I'd be a little embarrassed...

Yes, ref nobcitypool's comments, it was a silly post. I didn't know I'd have to submit credentials for publishing a book. Usually the book sales, feedback, and reviews are sufficient. And none of that is "self-generated".

Looking at some of the best instructional pool books on my shelves, I don't see any professional player names or top 10 finishers. In fact, most of these authors were not even instructors until after they published a book and developed a following. Bob Henning, Phil Capelle, Dr. David Alciatore, Jack Koehler, etc.... These people are excellent teachers, and that doesn't mean a few aren't great players as well. But it's just silly to think that the best teachers must also be the best players, because that's typically not true. The best teachers are usually not the best players.

Anyway, like Toni Morrison said, "If there is a book you really want to read but it hasn't been written yet, then you must write it."

 

[nobcitypool]

Much of Dr Dave's material is provided in conjunction with high level players. Most of Henning and Dr Dave's materials are based upon science and physics. I enjoyed their materials, they are very well done. The difference is, I don't see any of those people trolling here trying to make themselves relevant by questioning somebody else's.

You seem like a reasonably decent guy. I think you would benefit from focusing on the merits of your own aiming book and refrain from any negativity towards Stan, at least until you have some reasonable understanding of CTE. It's clear from many of your questions you are totally uninformed with respect to CTE. Obviously that doesn't keep Lou and Dan from trolling frequently but being uninformed seems to be a world they are very comfortable in. Lou's only claim to fleeting fame is beating John Barton in a money match while John was having epileptic seizures during his stroke. He even lacked the balls to put up his own money. If you wish to lump yourself in with those guys, have a happy.

 

[BC21]

Never seems to bother you Dan. I'm surprised you could make that response and keep a straight face. Instead of your ambiguous response, why don't you enlighten everyone on the silliness and misinformation though?

If someone says "I don't know how it works", and then others offer up plausible theories or explanations of how "it" works, how can the guy who says he doesn't know how it works actually say the explanations are wrong?

And part of the misinformation Dan was referring to is probably where you stated that I've questioned Stan's teaching abilities, or where you insinuated that I am looking for reasons that CTE doesn't work. I do not question Stan's abilities. I am simply pointing out obvious discrepancies/contradictions with CTE, well.... obvious to anyone not already wearing the CTE glasses.

 

[BC21]

Much of Dr Dave's material is provided in conjunction with high level players. Most of Henning and Dr Dave's materials are based upon science and physics. I enjoyed their materials, they are very well done. The difference is, I don't see any of those people trolling here trying to make themselves relevant by questioning somebody else's.

You seem like a reasonably decent guy. I think you would benefit from focusing on the merits of your own aiming book and refrain from any negativity towards Stan, at least until you have some reasonable understanding of CTE. It's clear from many of your questions you are totally uninformed with respect to CTE. Obviously that doesn't keep Lou and Dan from trolling frequently but being uninformed seems to be a world they are very comfortable in. Lou's only claim to fleeting fame is beating John Barton in a money match while John was having epileptic seizures during his stroke. He even lacked the balls to put up his own money. If you wish to lump yourself in with those guys, have a happy.

I keep reading comments that say I say I'm clueless it uninformed about CTE. What I find odd about this is the fact that I am merely repeating Stan Shuffett's exact words, or the exact instructions from Mohrt's website, or the exact instructions from numerous YouTube CTE educators. I don't change or manipulate the instructions ...... when they say it it's correct, when I say what they say it is incorrect. Lol. I don't get it.

 

[nobcitypool]

If you had the first clue about how CTE worked, I'd see no issue with you having questions. How can you question it when you have no grasp of it? This would be similar to someone who had high school science 101 and attempting to question Einstein on his theory of relativity.

You asked about a 30 perception and how to decide whether to pivot inside or out. Why ask specifically about a thirty? You have to decide inside or outside with all 4 perceptions. With just the minimal amount of CTE knowledge, you know the required pivot direction prior to acquiring the perception. The more experience and skill you have, the more often you know. However, there are times it is not 100% obvious, you do have to go down on the shot to see. This is true even for Stan. I've set up some very difficult shots for Stan just so I could watch and learn his decision making process. The fact, by your own questions and statements, that you don't understand this at all reveals how little time you've taken to learn CTE.

I wouldn't dream of disputing the mechanics of your system until I read the materials and took it to the table. I may spend $10 for your ebook out of curiosity. Even then, I'm not going to come here to troll you and your efforts. I applaud your efforts and love for pool. I respect that. How you've acted though tells me a lot about your character. You should focus on the merits of what you have versus trying to undermine and troll one of the finest pool instructors on the planet. It will just make you appear petty and jealous like your cohorts.

 

[Dan White]

I keep reading comments that say I say I'm clueless it uninformed about CTE. What I find odd about this is the fact that I am merely repeating Stan Shuffett's exact words, or the exact instructions from Mohrt's website, or the exact instructions from numerous YouTube CTE educators. I don't change or manipulate the instructions ...... when they say it it's correct, when I say what they say it is incorrect. Lol. I don't get it.

Brian, a little search shows this nob guy to be a real beaut. Maybe he's just come off his last ban and is feeling his oats again? Read the rest of the thread past this post for more chuckles. He seems to be the type to draw people into arguments, so best to ignore him, IMO.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5079758&postcount=444

Also, he is under the misapprehension that Stan is a helpless victim. nob is the one who needs to do some homework before posting.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=6000183&postcount=14

 

[nobcitypool]

Dan, I've been off a ban for many months. And you won't see me post much as it seems many of the good and informative people have left here leaving the place stuck with the likes of you. I've yet to ever see you post anything useful, not once. I don't need your links to know Stan. I've spent many hours with Stan face to face and over the phone. In other words, I've got first hand experience. Unlike you, I prefer forming opinions based on my own factual experiences. But then again, I don't have any comprehension of the mindset of petty trolls, something I'm very thankful for.

 

[Dan White]

Dan, I've been off a ban for many months. And you won't see me post much as it seems many of the good and informative people have left here leaving the place stuck with the likes of you. I've yet to ever see you post anything useful, not once. I don't need your links to know Stan. I've spent many hours with Stan face to face and over the phone. In other words, I've got first hand experience. Unlike you, I prefer forming opinions based on my own factual experiences. But then again, I don't have any comprehension of the mindset of petty trolls, something I'm very thankful for.

Congratulations on not being banned again (yet). You don't seem to understand how science works. Most things improve when curious people ask relevant questions, not when people who already say they know it all try to silence them. Stan could be holier than Saint Teresa, but that has no bearing on the kinds of questions that go unanswered.

Stan stomped off and I've been given the leeway by the mods to voice my opinion. I've done that and nothing Stan says on his videos even comes close to addressing the real science. I've repeatedly asked questions that go unanswered to the point that Mike asked me to give it a rest. If you have actual answers you'll have to go over it with Brian.

Something tells me you don't and you won't.

 

[BC21]

If you had the first clue about how CTE worked, I'd see no issue with you having questions. How can you question it when you have no grasp of it? This would be similar to someone who had high school science 101 and attempting to question Einstein on his theory of relativity.

You asked about a 30 perception and how to decide whether to pivot inside or out. Why ask specifically about a thirty? You have to decide inside or outside with all 4 perceptions. With just the minimal amount of CTE knowledge, you know the required pivot direction prior to acquiring the perception. The more experience and skill you have, the more often you know. However, there are times it is not 100% obvious, you do have to go down on the shot to see. This is true even for Stan. I've set up some very difficult shots for Stan just so I could watch and learn his decision making process. The fact, by your own questions and statements, that you don't understand this at all reveals how little time you've taken to learn CTE.

I wouldn't dream of disputing the mechanics of your system until I read the materials and took it to the table. I may spend $10 for your ebook out of curiosity. Even then, I'm not going to come here to troll you and your efforts. I applaud your efforts and love for pool. I respect that. How you've acted though tells me a lot about your character. You should focus on the merits of what you have versus trying to undermine and troll one of the finest pool instructors on the planet. It will just make you appear petty and jealous like your cohorts.

I understand what you're saying. I don't feel like I'm trolling Stan or anyone else. I know how to decide if a perception needs an inside or outside pivot. This is based on judgement. Skilled players can recognize if a shot looks a little thin or thick, but inexperienced players cannot....that's one of the reasons they navigate toward aiming systems.

I explicitly refer to a 30 perception because of a couple of Stan's youtube clips and my own experience with the same shot. I know all perceptions can be thick or thin. One question I can't seem to get resolved, here or on my table, us what to do if the perception already has me looking straight at a good CCB for the shot....I mean, according to some here I have to decide if it's thick or thin, regardless. Yet I find it very difficult bto accept, that out of the countless possible angles that arise in this game, there will never be a dead on perception.

I also have trouble understanding how a 15° perception, which is based on the 2-line visual relationship between CB and OB, can give me a different CCB solution in two shots where the distance between CB and OB is exactly the same and I use the exact same visual lines (CTE and ETA) and pivot for each setup.

Nevertheless, I have been very courteous in my questioning and have not belittled anyone or made derogatory statements toward anyone. It's easy to get caught up in emotions, and I probably did get a touch rambunctious when Stan said my book was a load of sh**. I realize he is the professional instructor here, but respect isn't something one automatically earns through certifications.