Stan shuffet and cte pro one

[vapoolplayer]

Is there a downloadable or streaming version of CTE Pro One that can be purchased for those of us who don’t really use(or own) dvds nowadays?

 

[BeiberLvr]

I understand that once you drop the perception lines and focus your vision on CCB, you are very close to the actual shot line and must determine (by looking at this ccb line) whether or not you need an inside or outside pivot/sweep. The pivot/sweep thins or thickens the shot line provided by the perception, and now you find yourself dead on the CCB solution for the shot.

Now....what if you determine that the CCB line provided by the perception looks dead on, not thick or thin? Do you just pick thin? Or thick? Or do you stroke right into CCB from where you are?

...when someone is using CTE, they will never be directly behind/or on the line of the shot?. They are offset (hence the term).

The pivot/sweep is what brings the player to the shot line.

 

[BC21]

...when someone is using CTE, they will never be directly behind/or on the line of the shot?. They are offset (hence the term).

The pivot/sweep is what brings the player to the shot line.

I get what you're saying...... You are never directly behind the final CCB solution. But when you choose your perception and pick up the two lines (like ETA and CTE), you have a "fixed" CB. You now turn your eyes away from the perception lines and focus directly on CCB. From this CCB view point you decide (by looking straight through CCB to where the CB is lined toward the OB) if the shot from this CCB looks thin or thick, which indicates whether or not you need an inside or outside pivot/sweep. Is this correct?

 

[cookie man]

First of all, you don't get to decide what the point is in a conversation between another poster and me. Regarding your point... oh that's right, you don't have a point. Your purpose here is to rile things up and see if you can cloud the issues and maybe get one of us to lose our cool and get banned. I get it. Beiber keeps baiting me to see if I'll do something to get me banned as well. It's a charming tactic, but most of us are on to it.

sure i do, i understand the truth hurts you though

 

[cookie man]

The objective basics are simple, you're right, but that only includes the two-line perception. The other steps require experienced judgement and are only simple to those that have such experience.

The pivot is the only thing that is really tough to understand it pick up. I've watched Spider's CTE Pivoting video and that makes it even more cloudy, mainly because he's using 1/2 ball pivots instead of 1/2 tip, but I realize that's the original CTE and 90/90 style pivots. Spider shows how a fixed 10" bridge won't work. Then he states that the sweet spot for pivoting is between a 10 to 12 inch bridge. He then demonstrates a strict pivot from the bridge hand followed by a squishy bridge hand pivot where he says it feels like he's really pivoting the cue at about the joint area. But he's not. In both examples the cue pivots exactly at his bridge hand -- coach's eye app shows it with no doubts. That's about as clear and accurate as mud. But he is entertaining, seems like a funny guy, witty.

Think what you want, lol. We all started with a 1/2 ball pivot, maybe you should to if you really want to over analyze things. And the cue doesn't pivot at the bridge hand, old news and already proven. Research the hip pivot

 

[cookie man]

I've typed about six different replies and deleted them all. Some things are better left unsaid, even for me. :smile:

Have a good evening and enjoy your discussion with Brian. If you weren't trying so hard to prove him wrong you might find he's a pretty sharp guy that knows a few things about aiming. His Poolology is quite an accomlishment, and is quite unlike anything else out there, despite what some have claimed. Our resident math expert, Vorpal, might even call it elegant. (That's what math guys do).

Curious, if poololgy is so great then why isn't anyone talking about it. And why isn't it being used in real life pool instead of only practicing with it.

 

[cookie man]

I never said CTE may or may not work. I'm only repeating the very instructions given by several CTE users, including Stan Shuffett himself.

Facts as stated: The perception gives the player a distinct CCB alignment. By looking at this alignment the player must determine whether or not it looks a little thick or a little thin. This determination indicates whether the player uses an inside or outside pivot/sweep.

Common sense indicates that occasionally an alignment will be dead on, not thick or thin. But of course the player would have to have the experience to recognize it.

Your common sense is failing you

 

[cookie man]

For the 30 category:

CB OB relationships for the 30 are always seen as being either thick to the pocket or thin to the pocket.
Those alignments that are thick to the pocket must have an inside pivot. INSIDE always thins a thick alignment.
Those alignments that are thin to the pocket must have an outside PIVOT. OUTSIDE always thickens a thin alignment.

Stan Shuffett

So let me get this straight..... EVERY 30 perception will have to look either thin or thick? Nothing will ever look just right? That is a bit far-fetched.

Your assumptions are far fetched. That's why you should learn cte from the ground up. Tried that half ball pivot yet?

 

[cookie man]

I dont think you guys using the system realize during your sweep your creating the shot picture you thinks right as your falling(sweeping) into the shot. Makes since.

Its not difficult to see a miss to thick or to thin.

Except we sweep to center CB and don't really have the shot picture in sight while doing it. Nice try though

 

[cookie man]

This is the logical explanation for it. The perception gets you very close to the shot line, then your sweep or pivot fine tunes it a little thicker or thinner depending on your judgement.

We sweep to center CB, please explain how we fine tune when at that point in time the shot line in not being looked at.

 

[cookie man]

As I've stated before......I have taken it to the table, that's why I'm asking these questions. When I get a perception that gives me a CCB that already looks good, do I still need to thin or thick enough it with a pivot or sweep?

Nevermind.....I'd prefer someone else reply to this.

Please post the shot that does this

 

[8pack]

This is the logical explanation for it. The perception gets you very close to the shot line, then your sweep or pivot fine tunes it a little thicker or thinner depending on your judgement.

This is the truth of the matter, if that's the case, that would cause problems for Stans curtain shots. Wish I could do that..who wouldn't bet against you.

 

[cookie man]

?... I'm a right-handed player.

I just know I've picked a cte perception, say a 30, then the view of CCB I get from this position looks good, like no adjustment is needed. I know this by looking at the OB and realizing it's a dead 5/8 aim, and that's exactly where my CCB line happens to be pointing. It doesn't look thin or thick, but looks good as it is.

There's a popular cte trainer on YouTube that uses ghostball to help judge if a perception looks thin or thick. What does he do if it looks perfect already? Does he work backwards from that CCB alignment (reverse-engineering) in order to land right back on the line that looked good before doing the reverse-engineering pivot? If so, that means he already knew the shot line simply by looking at the balls, no sweep or pivot required to solve a CB solution. The solution was automatically recognized, like a feel player describes when he says he just sees the shot. It's a fine line there and it seems like player judgement plays a major role in determining that final CCB solution.

Popular cte trainer on youtube?

 

[cookie man]

I get what you're saying...... You are never directly behind the final CCB solution. But when you choose your perception and pick up the two lines (like ETA and CTE), you have a "fixed" CB. You now turn your eyes away from the perception lines and focus directly on CCB. From this CCB view point you decide (by looking straight through CCB to where the CB is lined toward the OB) if the shot from this CCB looks thin or thick, which indicates whether or not you need an inside or outside pivot/sweep. Is this correct?

No, when you get to focusing directly on CCB you don't look through it toward the OB and adjust. If you adjust at that point you will most likely miss the shot.
The thick or thin sweep is determined while standing and focused on the perception. The perception knows all.

 

[BC21]

Think what you want, lol. We all started with a 1/2 ball pivot, maybe you should to if you really want to over analyze things. And the cue doesn't pivot at the bridge hand, old news and already proven. Research the hip pivot

It's not what I think, it's what is obvious when viewed at with the eyes. Spider can think it "feels" like his pivot is close to the cue joint or hip, but I used Coach's Eye with exact lines and anyone can see the cue pivot point at the bridge hand. It's where the lines intersect -- pre pivot and post pivot. When he does the hip pivot he shifts his whole body along with cue. But his bridge hand doesn't move. Instead of pivoting the cue only, be pivots his entire body and the pivot point remains fixed at the bridge hand. It must be a visual illusion or subconscious stroke adjustment that is happening for him him to get different results with what he calls a long pivot vs a short shift.

 

[BC21]

No, when you get to focusing directly on CCB you don't look through it toward the OB and adjust. If you adjust at that point you will most likely miss the shot.
The thick or thin sweep is determined while standing and focused on the perception. The perception knows all.

Tell that to Stan. What I've described is exactly what he describes in the first 35 seconds below, and also according to every instruction I've read concerning the perception. You get your perception then you drop those lines and look at CCB. If you're not doing that, you're not doing Stan Shuffett's CTE . Watch it here...

https://youtu.be/0Y4xh89CWXg

 

[8pack]

No, when you get to focusing directly on CCB you don't look through it toward the OB and adjust. If you adjust at that point you will most likely miss the shot.
The thick or thin sweep is determined while standing and focused on the perception. The perception knows all.

You do realize you are your perception. This is what has so much subjectivity around it. You've created what looks right for you through trial an error.

 

[BC21]

Popular cte trainer on youtube?

Bob Nunley.

https://youtu.be/y_YqDvTn4Ew?t=78s

 

[BC21]

You do realize you are your perception. This is what has so much subjectivity around it. You've created what looks right for you through trial an error.

Bingo....winner winner!:grin-square:

 

[BC21]

Curious, if poololgy is so great then why isn't anyone talking about it. And why isn't it being used in real life pool instead of only practicing with it.

Poolology has been out about 8 or 9 months, not 10+ years. And I'm not portraying it as some miraculous aiming system that supersedes anything pool-related in the history of pool and billiards. It's an awesome tool and I use it in match situations as needed. It's very objective, not subjectively objective, which is why there aren't a lot of forum wars over it. It's very explainable.