Stats for the top 25 by winning% A. Fisher #8

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SlimShafty

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Top 25 in Winning % day 1

Bustamante was almost perfect! and Allison Fisher is the only women in the top 25

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Only 16 times the 8 ball was made on the break once every 302 games.

At the KOTH it was a much better rate of every 154 games, this tournament is a larger field with a broader skill level, so I guess thats expected. Round 2 will have less games, but I bet the same # of 8 balls will be made on the break today.



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Allison

better break and run more, cause she won't get as many 'Open tables' today.
 
jjinfla said:
See how skewed a win percentage is. People with a loss score higher than people with no losses.

Jake
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If you order it by games lost (GLI), you'll have roughly the same "skew".

What do you propose would be a better tie-breaking method?
 
jjinfla said:
See how skewed a win percentage is. People with a loss score higher than people with no losses.

Jake
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That's because you are mixing match wins with games played.

Look at it this way. Say if they decided not to use match wins at all and simply had every player play ten games agaisnt every other player. Then only the games won would be recorded. The player with the most games won would have the highest winning percentage.

By having game wins as a factor alonside match wins it increases the pressure because now it is not only important to win the match but it is important to either win by a large margin or lose by a very small one.

Winning percentages are useful to determine who was the better player when there is a tie in match wins. Match wins however are the first determining factor as it should be. Getting to the finish line first more times means more than almost getting there faster.

John
 
IMO each win should have 1 point. So for a perfect 4-0 for example win would mean 4 pts then add the winning percentage say .877, so the player would have a total of 4.877% as winning percentage. And if the player has less, say 3 then he/she will have 3 pts plus his/her winning percentage and so on and so fort. :)
 
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jsp said:
If you order it by games lost (GLI), you'll have roughly the same "skew".

What do you propose would be a better tie-breaking method?
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Hi jsp,
I think a better rating method might be the runout after break percentage if they tracked it, because BRO% is very much influenced by the wet break% and this can fluctuate wildly even for good breakers.

Out of about 20 breaks, I think I only made a ball 4 times the first day. I had 7 straight dry breaks in the match I won:eek: , but luckily Jimmy Fusco was also broke dry all but 2 of his breaks.:D Some tables just seem not too friendly. We both had decent hard breaks, but it seems you need a monster break on these tables.

Anyway, if you're making balls on the break, the BRO% will be pretty high for most players, but it's highly influenced by their breaking success, which brings a more luck into the stat.

A run out after break stat would narrow the stats and provide a good indicator of general playing performance.

For example, I had 1 BRO from 4 wet breaks, but had about 10 run outs after my opponent's 20 or so dry breaks.

Colin
 
CebuanoNiNoy said:
IMO each win should have 1 point. So for a perfect 4-0 for example win would mean 4 pts then add the winning percentage say .877, so the player would have a total of 4.877% as winning percentage. And if the player has less, say 3 then he/she will have 3 pts plus his/her winning percentage and so on and so fort. :)
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If I'm reading this correctly, what you describe is essentially the same as the IPT's setup, with the exception that there are further tiebreakers.
 
EfreN is playing because the KOH is a separate tournament where only the top 42 play.

Colin, I saw James Roberts consistently make 2-3 balls on me every break. He did not power them either. I asked him after our match how he was breaking them so well. He said place the ball dead center and hit with a medium stroke, because all the balls are light, including the cueball and deflect at a different angle than the normal Aramith or Centennials. I want Mike to try it!
 
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