Stay With One Game ?

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Stay with one game ? Is there any other sport that changes all games and equipment for the players for all tournaments. How much should be required of a player. So many of pro tournaments , in pool are more than one type of game , Our best 9 ball player must play 1p. . Our best 1p player must play 8 ball or some other game, Even all our equipment must be different sizes, tables, pockets, rules, How can this help pool vewing ? ... Guy
 
Stay with one game ? Is there any other sport that changes all games and equipment for the players for all tournaments. How much should be required of a player. So many of pro tournaments , in pool are more than one type of game , Our best 9 ball player must play 1p. . Our best 1p player must play 8 ball or some other game, Even all our equipment must be different sizes, tables, pockets, rules, How can this help pool vewing ? ... Guy
why do you ask this? why is this important to YOU??
 
He’s in his mid 80’s and doing research for a fictional book project. Be nice
all i can do is read threads. i don't know the age/backgrounds/mental-stability of who writes them. the question i asked here was not mean in any way. i just don't think that a book, ANY book, is going to make pool more popular to a non-playing audience, which from what i gather, is his goal.
 
Stay with one game ? Is there any other sport that changes all games and equipment for the players for all tournaments. How much should be required of a player. So many of pro tournaments , in pool are more than one type of game , Our best 9 ball player must play 1p. . Our best 1p player must play 8 ball or some other game, Even all our equipment must be different sizes, tables, pockets, rules, How can this help pool vewing ? ... Guy
It shows who the best all around player is. A Specialty division? Or does it already exist?
 
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It's life, like put putt golf, or par three golf courses, or pickle ball, not tennis, or ping pong, or 8 ball on a 10' with snooker cut pockets, or Badminton and not racket ball. It's mankind. Or woman kind. Hope your day is good. Me #5 granddaughter just arrived, why? :)
 
Swimming has different disciplines as does diving, the decathlon, iron man events, etc., etc, etc. There are many top players who do not play all games. To my knowledge, Jayson Shaw doesn't play one pocket. Some of the straight pool geeks will even tell you he plays terrible patterns even though he ran 714 balls. Players play what they want to play. No one is forcing them to play different games. There are simply different choices and opportunities. Nothing wrong with that.
 
all i can do is read threads. i don't know the age/backgrounds/mental-stability of who writes them. the question i asked here was not mean in any way. i just don't think that a book, ANY book, is going to make pool more popular to a non-playing audience, which from what i gather, is his goal.
He’s writing it for his enjoyment of writing it. Not the audience. Let him do his thing for himself. I know him outside of AZB. It’s not always about making $ or the audience. When you’re 84 and terminal-things change.

Clear?

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I don't know what it does for viewing but I believe, personally, that playing all of the games improves you at all of the other games.
I know many players that say playing a lot of one pocket messes up their nine ball game.
I think it is the opposite.
That is just one of the amazing things about the game we love.
The different disciplines.
I very rarely play on a bar box and consequentially I watch very few videos played on bar box.
You can play all of the games on a 9 footer.
Rarely if ever do you see 14.1 or one pocket played on a bar box.
 
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It’s like playing different courses in golf or fishing different bodies of water. To the uninitiated it all looks the same. To those in the know, it’s the difference between Augusta and St. Andrews or Rainbows and Largemouth. The different games are for the player not the viewer.


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Trying to increase interest, and viewing is subject that has bat to death.

It’s not 1900, it’s 2022, and Pool Rooms are not only recreational opportunity,

Competition is all around you, in your home, and Pool is shrinking not growing.

Back in 50’s kids wait on line for change at game of Pool at Boys Club.

Today kids are waiting turn to place video game, Pool tables get little use.
 
And in chess they now have pro tournaments in which the pieces are scrambled randomly on the back row.

Matchroom has decided on a single discipline. That may be the best way forward for building an international audience.

I like a variety. In the rec center where I learned to play, we had all three kinds of tables and we played maybe 20 different games all together. Eight ball was not one of those games.
 
Do you want the WCBS to require people register and carry a license to play a hobby game?

One game is plenty it will be challenging enough for people to be interested. Once interested they can find what works for them.

Of my childhood hobbies my pool knowledge has gone from full of garbage to a more refined knowledge base. It is a nice contrast from other life skills.

Unlike metric spaces like age, income or physical dimensions pool is not ruled by one class. Pool is welcome and open to all the only person that decides how much success you can have is you.

One game is great if you commit errors and stay in a loop try others or take a break.
 
I would say write for the love of the game, don't write down to the reader but include a glossary of terms, so the non-player can keep up, and some illustrations. A lot of people learned the intricacies of baseball by reading good books about baseball. Good luck and let us know if you want any glossary help.
 
Stay with one game ? Is there any other sport that changes all games and equipment for the players for all tournaments. How much should be required of a player. So many of pro tournaments , in pool are more than one type of game , Our best 9 ball player must play 1p. . Our best 1p player must play 8 ball or some other game, Even all our equipment must be different sizes, tables, pockets, rules, How can this help pool vewing ? ... Guy
Baseball has, similarly, been all over the place. The ball itself has been changed at least three different times in the last few years. The dimensions of the playing field vary from city to city. For example, hitting a home run over the right field fence at Yankee Stadium is easier than doing it in any other stadium. Some infields are made of grass, others are made of artificial turf, so reaction time available for fielding a ground ball is variable. The pitching clock has changed how long a pitcher has to throw the ball. The number of mound visits permitted per team per game has been changed, too. Another recent change is that you get a "free" runner on second to begin any inning beyond the ninth. Also, a recent change is that a relief pitcher entering the game must now face at least three batters. It is widely expected that the rules for where an infielder can and can't position himself will be changed for the 2023 baseball season, so the "shift" as we know it today will likely be obsolete next year. All that said, baseball gives the players ample notice of upcoming changes. and changes in how the game is played come just once a year, with four months of notice the norm.

Still, as you suggest, one must wonder whether any sport does a poorer job in standardizing the game, the rules and the equipment than pool, and I agree that it's not fair to the players and can occasionally result in their being less prepared for an event than they might be.

I don't agree that the players need to learn the fringe games. Most pool tournaments have rotation pool only, and top players can make a living sticking to rotation pool alone. Yes, they can make even more if they learn to excel at the fringe games (like Gorst at the 2022 Derby City Classic).
 
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Baseball has, similarly, been all over the place. The ball itself has been changed at least three different times in the last few years. The dimensions of the playing field vary from city to city. For example, hitting a home run over the right field fence at Yankee Stadium is easier than doing it in any other stadium. Some infields are made of grass, others are made of artificial turf, so reaction time available varies for fielding a ground ball is variable. The pitching clock has changed how long a pitcher has to throw the ball. The number of mound visits permitted per team per game has been changed, too. Another recent change is that you get a "free" runner on second to begin any inning beyond the ninth. Also, a recent change is that a relief pitcher entering the game must now face at least three batters. It is widely expected that the rules for where an infielder can and can't position himself will be changed for the 2023 baseball season, so the "shift" as we know it today will likely be obsolete next year. All that said, baseball gives the players ample notice of upcoming changes. and changes in how the game is played come just once a year, with four months of notice the norm.

Still, as you suggest, one must wonder whether any sport does a poorer job in standardizing the game, the rules and the equipment than pool, and I agree that it's not fair to the players and can occasionally result in their being less prepared for an event than they might be.


Baseballs attraction is I do not know, game is so boring most of time. Even Baseball fans go
I gave up chasing pro style 14.1 breaks.

I am having a lot more fun identifying amateur 14.1 break shots. The standard 141 runout breakshot is a tough reach and stroke. To lower the standard there are two approaches move the cue ball closer to the breakball or use a bridge to avoid unwanted leans during stroke.

If further developments arise the I will post here.


Baseball to watch is boring to me, but people pay big buck to go to old ball park to sit & watch Baseball.

Add insult to injury you pay what to park, buy over price beer, water, hot dogs, etc at inflated prices.

One of few pro baseball game I went to at Dodger Stadium was when Sandy Kolfax, he threw a no hitter, boring. I went to see action. I was wanting to see pitching, hitting, running, stealing base. Action game.

Not two guys playing catch.👎 No one hitting nothing. Bored.🤮
 
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