Staying down

nataddrho

nataddrho

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Very simple question. If you were to time how long a player should stay down after a shot, how long would you recommend?
 
nataddrho said:
Very simple question. If you were to time how long a player should stay down after a shot, how long would you recommend?
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Until ball is in the pocket. One of best tips i ever got was keep bridge hand on table until ball disappears
 
Until the stroke is completed. Any time after that doesn't affect the shot at all. But, being human, one should strive to stay down a little after the stroke is done so as not to get up before the stroke is done. How long that is, is dependent on ones own self control.
 
At a minimum, watch the cue ball make contact with the object ball before moving.
 
dardusm said:
At a minimum, watch the cue ball make contact with the object ball before moving.
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This has been the best discipline for me. I make a mental "snapshot" of the CB striking the OB. It's also a great way to "focus on the OB" if that's your thing.
 
nataddrho said:
Very simple question. If you were to time how long a player should stay down after a shot, how long would you recommend?
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At least 1 second after the cb hits the OB.
I like the " till the ball drops " but that sure will wear out your back after a long set.
 
nataddrho said:
Very simple question. If you were to time how long a player should stay down after a shot, how long would you recommend?
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In pool there are so many check lists that has to be executed correctly and timely so the OB is pocketed, or better technically to ensure the CB goes to the exact intended target with exact conditions. One of these check lists is staying down; i find it better to remember to follow through on every shot that will ensure automatic stay down at least until CB is gone, that is one less check list item to worry about, since follow through is a must!
 
nataddrho said:
If you had to assign a number to it, would .5 seconds satisfy everyone?
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No. What is your hurry?

I understand fully that people differ as to what is their best pace to play at.
But I have never seen someone who plays as if he were late for an appointment
who failed to improve by slowing down. First hand knowledge.

Dale
 
pdcue said:
No. What is your hurry?

I understand fully that people differ as to what is their best pace to play at.
But I have never seen someone who plays as if he were late for an appointment
who failed to improve by slowing down. First hand knowledge.

Dale
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My first hand experience is different. Ive seen plenty of players ruin their natural rhythm by slowing down, and just as many improve dramatically by getting the hell on wih it.

Obviously, an extra second or two when staying down after the shot makes no difference to either party but it can be mistake to tell players to simply slow down.
 
Staying down is like follow through. The cb has no idea what happens after it leaves the tip. However, when the shooter is under pressure and jumps up prematurely, the cb suddenly is very aware of the impact on the cue tip that movement causes. I try to practice using Jimmy Reid 's recommendation, that being too count 1001, 1002, 1003 after contact with the CB. It helps to develop a good habit of staying down on the shot.

This is similar to follow through. It isn't the follow through that is important, it is how follow through affects what happens before and at cb contact that is important.
 
Ron Swanson said:
My first hand experience is different. Ive seen plenty of players ruin their natural rhythm by slowing down, and just as many improve dramatically by getting the hell on wih it.

Obviously, an extra second or two when staying down after the shot makes no difference to either party but it can be mistake to tell players to simply slow down.
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I did not tell anyone to simply slow down.

The discussion is about how long to stay down AFTER hitting the CB.
Coming up to soon often increases the likelihood you will 'pop up' before
you finish your stroke. I seriously doubt you have seen anybody ruin their rhythm
by not popping up as soon as they hit the ball.

And, FWI - first hand experience refers to what one has done oneself, It has nothing
to do with what one has observed others do.

Dale
 
Just watch the QB make contact with the OB. Do not allow your eyes to follow the OB to the pocket.

John :smile:
 
9andout said:
Aren't we forgetting something????????
Arm weights are the KEY! ---Earl
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This...lmao.

Too funny.

Seriously, you can stay down for a second or so.
You can stay down until the object ball goes in the
pocket, The main thing is to be conscious of staying
down until it becomes a natural habit and part of
your game that is second nature.

At this point you've overcome raising up for the most
part, but if your not playing a dozen or so hours a week
this bad habit can reoccur without even knowing you're
doing it.

If I'm not playing up to snuff, one of the 1st basic fundamental
checks I do is make sure that I'm staying down on my shots.
The hell of it is, that's usually what I'm doing(raising up), even though I'm
a member of the HAMB(hitting a million balls) Club. I find myself
doing this if I take too much time off from the table, other than
that the rest of my fundamentals are strong and solid.

Old habits are hard to break, but I still love this game.
 
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In practice...

When practicing, stay down and still until all balls have stopped moving.

It's really hard to do, but it trains you to stay down; your body will cry out that it wants to jump up and do something, but stay down.

My 2-cents.

RL
 
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