Steinway?

L.S. Dennis

L.S. Dennis

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Anyone know what's happening with Steinway Billiards in NY? Last I heard the whole block was bought up by some developer and Steinway needed to vacate at some point. Just wondering,,,
 
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garczar said:
He went from Steinway to Fusco's in Philly then on to Sandcastle iirc.
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It would be interesting to know how many different poolrooms Earl has been a house pro at over the years? If he were ever to make it back to his home state of NC, he might add another poolroom to that long list. He’d love our 10-foot Gabriel’s pool table with 4-1/4” pockets, and I’d gladly offer him a place to stay for as long as we could put up with him.
 
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ChrisinNC said:
It would be interesting to know how many different poolrooms Earl has been a house pro at over the years? If he were ever to make it back to his home state of NC, he might add another poolroom to that long list. He’d love our 10-foot Gabriel’s pool table with 4-1/4” pockets, and I’d gladly offer him a place to stay for as long as we could put up with him.
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That is a generous offer and it’s hard to beat living in your neck of the woods. Have fond memories of our annual trip out to get the Xmas tree and lunch at the Daniel Boone Inn.
 
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I heard this earlier today. Not long ago I was told that management had possibly secured another spot in the area and were going to give relocation a shot.

Interestingly I discovered two more pool rooms in another part of the Manhatten area that I never knew were there.
Dyckman Billiards and Post Billiards. These rooms are at the top of the island in an area called Fort George.

I am glad I have played at the original Steinways many times.
 
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It seems strange to me that with the renaissance pool seems to be having with all the Matchroom, Predator etc of late, yet it seems more and more pool rooms are closing instead of opening. I don't ever expect a boom in pool room openings like after The Color of Money but still it seems these things are going in opposite directions.
 
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L.S. Dennis said:
It seems strange to me that with the renaissance pool seems to be having with all the Matchroom, Predator etc of late, yet it seems more and more pool rooms are closing instead of opening. I don't ever expect a boom in pool room openings like after The Color of Money but still it seems these things are going in opposite directions.
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When you think about the cost of real estate, and how much $/sf a pool room brings in, it starts to make sense unfortunately. A lot of cities are becoming so overpriced that the things that make a city worthwhile and livable are getting priced out. I spent $40 the other day in 2+ hours at the pool hall. I think $17 for food and $23 for table time. A table in that room takes up about 200 sf. A restaurant could get $200 out of the same floor space. Then again there's much less labor in a pool hall and the table time is nearly all contributing margin, save for the wear on the cloth, which was probably under a dollar. I should buy more food and drink because if all 40 tables are in use at $12 an hour, that's only $480/hr for 10,000 sf or so.
 
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I am grateful I got to see that hall go from a family-kids amusement place to world class action poolroom. Sad to see it go.
Once Masters closed on Queens Blvd, Steinway stepped up in a huge way and filled the absence of a 'true' action room in Queens, NY
 
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L.S. Dennis said:
It seems strange to me that with the renaissance pool seems to be having with all the Matchroom, Predator etc of late, yet it seems more and more pool rooms are closing instead of opening. I don't ever expect a boom in pool room openings like after The Color of Money but still it seems these things are going in opposite directions.
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I suppose we don't have any actual data on whether these big investments are creating more pool players or otherwise increasing the amount of time people play pool. The places by me seem to do well with league play during the week and casual players on Saturday nights, but it's rare to find anyone that pays attention to pro pool (or even knows it exists).

And I don't know if this evening league traffic and Saturday evening play generates more or less revenue than a standard sports bar.
 
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