Stevie Moore parallel shots CTE video

[stan shuffett]

FWIW, years after watching Stan's DVD, I still have no clue what swooping left or right means....In the DVD a left and right swoop look exactly the same to me...So I just keep playing with 90/90 with an air pivot..If I understood the swoops better I probably would dedicate some more time to it...And for the record, I have not contacted Stan with regards to the swoops...I figure he's too busy, or I just can't grasp the concept of the swoops to even bother contacting him.

If you can produce video footage of me using the word swooping in any of my DVD videos I will put you on my complementary book list.
In the meantime if you are ever in the KY I will happily give you enough of a lesson so that you will thoroughly understand PRO ONE sweeps.

Stan Shuffett

 

[ps611846]

I am a man of my word. The offer exists and is now bumped to $25,000. No, it likely will not happen because anyone that is in the know knows otherwise. But just in case someone really believes my stroke consists of swooping.....$25000 is fairly good incentive to put me in my place or see if my word holds up or not.

Stan Shuffett

No swoop, but an adjustment in visual alignment and/or in the angle of the stroking arm (elbow - wrist) to be able to play the same shot at any speed ?

 

[stan shuffett]

No swoop, but an adjustment in visual alignment and/or in the angle of the stroking arm (elbow - wrist) to be able to play the same shot at any speed ?

My stroke is void of swoops...The eyes sweep....Some have tagged the
"body movement" into their shots as swooping as a visual sweep occurs. The eyes sweep, The body rotates or turns or bends into --which again somevhave tagged as swooping. NEARLY ALL PROS SWOOP INTO THEIR FULL STANCES.

Before CTE, I did occasionally steer my cue during stroke but now I would say I am all but free of steering.

At times during certain spin shots I purposefully use a swiping motion with my cue.

Stan Shuffett

 

[ps611846]

My stroke is void of swoops...The eyes sweep....Some have tagged the body movement as swooping as a sweep occurs. The eyes sweep, The body rotates or turns in which some again have tagged as swooping. NEARLY ALL PROS SWOOP INTO THEIR FULL STANCES.

Before CTE, I did occasionally steer my cue during stroke but now I would say I am all but free of steering.

At times during certain spin shots I purposefully use a swiping motion with my cue.

Stan Shuffett

Ok, but you didn't answer my question.

I was asking if you make adjustments to play the same shot at any speed. Or do you make the same shot at any speed by doing exactly the same things ?

 

[stan shuffett]

Ok, but you didn't answer my question.

I was asking if you make adjustments to play the same shot at any speed. Or do you make the same shot at any speed by doing exactly the same things ?

No, I do not adjust as a rule because of speed but I am aware of the problems that can occur, for example, with offspeed slow shots.

Stan Shuffett

 

[stan shuffett]

You're incapable of controlling yourself after 20 straight years of bashing CTE.

It would be nice to see them do here what was done on onepocket.org.

lfigueroa
Suspended

Bye-bye Lou, FOREVER.

Lou hates the muzzle!

Stan Shuffett

 

[Ratta]

Naysayers and Other no-no s

Oh man,

I ve been for very sure not that much on AZB in a longer time. REason also because of some extremly stubborn, arrogant and rude people.

Also sure, that i ve said this somewhen before- so I apologize for it. I also learn it oldschooled- stopped with pool in 1999- and came back in 2009.

Then i ve read and heard and saw the first time about CTE, 90/90 and other systems. Well the first think instead of saying "this canotwork" was: where can I get more info? Because it sounded.... well- "funny" and "interesting and then saw some Impression videos from Stan.
So i started to learn about it- asked Stan, asked Dave Segal very often, talked to john Barton etc. -

I can assure, that i was sceptical- i can just say: it works. NO matter if we talk about cte, 90/90 or See-System as well. If you put in the. Necessary time.....with an open mind- that s what matters. To wish to learn something new- and put in the time it needs...with passion.

I ran a shotmaking test on every system-- using cte with blinded pockets, too. And was with every system above 85%. -- imo for a person, who not really plays anymore- and doesn't practice daily an extremly good percentage.

It was a pleasure to learn new stuff- and to ask intelligent and friendly people about this stuff. Wish would have some of these guys in the near to learn or discuss much more

I m far away from the point where i would say: i would start to teach cte-- but i m sure enough to say to every student: it works- no doubt about it.

I also won not just one time small bets with other *instructors*-- to pick a person who never played pool- and then instruct him for 1-2 hours-and let em make a small shotmaking test.
The other guys would teach em oldschool-- i taught em 90/90

My students always won- and made far more balls. Without an exception.


What i don t like here on the forum since about 2-3 years. Is the missing respect for each other- it s really a shame.

May everyone have a smooth stroke-

Sry for bad spelling- sent from mobile phone. To thick fingers

 

[Vorpal Cue]

Bridge length question

I have a question about the bridge length and if it changes determined by the distance between balls. I thought I read a post here about it but I'm unable to locate the source.

According to my memory, an adjustment is made if the balls are more than 5-6 diamonds apart. I think the answer was that the bridge was moved back somewhere in the ballpark of 1-2 inches for longer shots and moved forward the same amount for the short ones. I can't recall how close the balls have to be to make the adjustment.

Your thoughts on the subject will be appreciated.

 

[stan shuffett]

I have a question about the bridge length and if it changes determined by the distance between balls. I thought I read a post here about it but I'm unable to locate the source.

According to my memory, an adjustment is made if the balls are more than 5-6 diamonds apart. I think the answer was that the bridge was moved back somewhere in the ballpark of 1-2 inches for longer shots and moved forward the same amount for the short ones. I can't recall how close the balls have to be to make the adjustment.

Your thoughts on the subject will be appreciated.

For now I will just say that bridge distances do not matter nor does the size of one's tip.

Stan Shuffett

 

[lfigueroa]

Lou hates the muzzle!

Stan Shuffett

Muzzle smuzzle.

Bunch of old ladies arguing over and over about What Would You Do dreaming up shots few of them have the skill or cojones to shoot in a live fire situation. Does any of that sound like I miss it?

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

For now I will just say that bridge distances do not matter nor does the size of one's tip.

Stan Shuffett

What about how tall a player is? Is the guy 5'2" seeing things the same as the guy who is 6'1"? Or how about whether they set up under their left eye vs their right eye, or center the cue under their chin? What happens when one player gets into a Buddy Hall low over the cue stance vs a Fats upright stance? Are they all seeing the same lines? Will their motions to get into shooting position produce the same result?

Lou Figueroa

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Muzzle smuzzle.

Bunch of old ladies arguing over and over about What Would You Do dreaming up shots few of them have the skill or cojones to shoot in a live fire situation. Does any of that sound like I miss it?

Lou Figueroa

Of course you miss it because you were there for the same reason you're here which is to bad mouth and knock everyone and everything and they got sick of it.
(and you). It's your passion in life.

lfigueroa
suspended

Bye-bye Lou, forever

 

[SpiderWebComm]

What about how tall a player is? Is the guy 5'2" seeing things the same as the guy who is 6'1"? Or how about whether they set up under their left eye vs their right eye, or center the cue under their chin? What happens when one player gets into a Buddy Hall low over the cue stance vs a Fats upright stance? Are they all seeing the same lines? Will their motions to get into shooting position produce the same result?

Lou Figueroa

You forgot to ask which side does the schwantz hang on, right or left to affect balance.

 

[Dan White]

You will have to prove your claims, I've never heard of CTE relying on a swoop. Do you the think Williams has a swoop? He has many videos posted.

And just thinking about it, playing with a swoop would make things extremely hard to be consistent. But that is the outcome for those with a decent stroke.

Nobody has claimed that CTE requires a swoop in order to work. People who are swooping don't realize it and think that CTE is working when in reality CTE is getting them in the general vicinity of the pocket and the unintentional correction is what puts the ball on the correct path. I'm not making this claim, I'm throwing out a hypothesis that may or may not be true. What is a fact and not a hypothesis is that Stan and Dave have demonstrated shots in which they have either swooped or made mid-course corrections. Instead of being interested in this "new" data, the usual responses are:

- nope, no stroke corrections there, perfectly straight,
- doesn't matter, too small, and ball goes in anyway, who cares,
and my personal favorite -- "burn the witch"!

Also for the record, I'm not usually referring to a swoop but more of an aiming correction just before the forward stroke motion (at the back part of the swing).

 

[Dan White]

There are assertions being made that my stroke is adjusting in order to successfully pocket balls with CTE.

I will award $10,000 to the BEF if assessment of my stroke by video analysis shows adjustments for making CTE work. I want fair videoing and judging. I choose Dr. DAVE, Bob Jewett, Pat Johnson and Mike Page. A video highlite compilation and the findings must be presented on this forum.
The analysis must take place at my facility before January 1, 2018.

Stan Shuffett

It's a loser proposition from the start since you have already seen this evidence provided to you, even in this forum, and your answer is that you knew you were doing that.

The other problem is that the act of making a measurement often changes the nature of what you are measuring. For instance, when player A doesn't know he's being studied, he does what he normally does. But when he places a $10,000 wager, has a high speed video recording everything along with several PhD's in attendance, the stroke is going to be different, and the aim is going to be different.

 

[Dan White]

I am a man of my word. The offer exists and is now bumped to $25,000. No, it likely will not happen because anyone that is in the know knows otherwise. But just in case someone really believes my stroke consists of swooping.....$25000 is fairly good incentive to put me in my place or see if my word holds up or not.

Stan Shuffett

OK Stan. Why pussy foot around? We both post $100,000 cash in the hands of someone we both trust, winner takes all, and here is the bet:

While demonstrating CTE on more than one occasion, has Stan made his initial alignment, got down on the shot, taken a practice swing along the alignment, but then during the final stroke deviated from that alignment to bring the cue forward in a different direction to pocket the ball successfully? I'll understand if you want to clarify some of the terms so there is no wiggle room.

You up for it?

 

[Dan White]

You're incapable of controlling yourself after 20 straight years of bashing CTE.

It would be nice to see them do here what was done on onepocket.org.

Here's what would have preempted all the "bashing" 20 years ago:

Hey guys, Hal Houle here. I've got this great system called CTE that makes every shot look as easy as straight in. Before you say anything, realize that diagrams and physics equations won't prove or disprove anything because the key to the system is that it works in your mind. In other words, the angle between the balls and the table rails and pockets forms a kind of optical illusion that makes every shot work out like magic. I can't explain it but can only demonstrate it in person or over the phone. If you try it for a couple of weeks you will start to see the optical illusion and ball will just start falling. You probably won't be able to make this work for a couple of weeks until your mind gets used to what you are doing. Then the optical illusion will click and you'll be amazed. Just trust that it works and give it a try.

There...20 years of anger averted.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Also for the record, I'm not usually referring to a swoop but more of an aiming correction just before the forward stroke motion (at the back part of the swing).

Why do you insist on blaming this as a conscious forced "aiming correction", Mr. STROKE MAN? We can also say it's unconscious, doesn't matter.

Nobody is doing that intentionally to correct aiming, NOBODY. Unless there's a human being out there who is IRON WILLIE the pool shooting robot of Bob Meucci or Predator, all humans have flaws in their stroke. That includes YOU.

Go back to studying your precious Mark Wilson book and observing videos on youtube of all the pros in action. If it doesn't jump out at you then pull out your special software and do it in slow motion.

Lets assume a player is a strict practitioner of Contact Point to Contact Point aiming and a very good one like Joe Tucker. If he matches #7 to #7 visually with his stance, body, and cue aligned correctly, what do you think would happen if he altered his delivery at the start of the forward stroke to compensate for whatever the hell you're talking about as an adjustment since he already was perfectly aligned to begin with?

What would happen is if he then hit the CB at #5 instead of #7 as a result of the adjustment, he'd MISS THE FRIGGIN' SHOT!

Altering the stroke rarely works if ever to make shots, it makes you MISS shots.

IT'S THE STROKE!

 

[Dan White]

When balls split the pockets over and over from all cut angles on the table, there's no need to micro analyze form or technique on me, Bustamante, Earl, or anyone else to prove they're not perfect in the delivery. Not that I'm in their league, certainly I'm not, but just sayin'.

I find this interesting. I indicate that your swoop is so large you could drive a Mack truck through it. Your reply in bold is what caught my eye. Aren't you the guy who wrote the forward to Stan's new blockbuster CTE tome, complete with 3000 photos and diagrams? The guy who writes the forward says essentially, "I swoop all over the place but the ball still goes in. Who cares why?"

Just to read between the lines for you: If you don't know why the balls go in, how do you know CTE is responsible for it?" I know, I know, you don't care because it works and I'm a basher. Burn the witch... yawn.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Here's what would have preempted all the "bashing" 20 years ago:

Hey guys, Hal Houle here. I've got this great system called CTE that makes every shot look as easy as straight in. Before you say anything, realize that diagrams and physics equations won't prove or disprove anything because the key to the system is that it works in your mind. In other words, the angle between the balls and the table rails and pockets forms a kind of optical illusion that makes every shot work out like magic. I can't explain it but can only demonstrate it in person or over the phone. If you try it for a couple of weeks you will start to see the optical illusion and ball will just start falling. You probably won't be able to make this work for a couple of weeks until your mind gets used to what you are doing. Then the optical illusion will click and you'll be amazed. Just trust that it works and give it a try.

There...20 years of anger averted.

You're really reaching now. Based on the bashing cast of characters who were there at the time it wouldn't have mattered what he said. I think the above would have doubled or tripled the amount of bad mouthing not only for Lou, PJ, the Ph.Ds, and same cast of sycophant followers of theirs like yourself.

Sadly Hal is dead and gone. But none of you have changed your tune since Stan has now taken over. The "gang" has attacked his every word.

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DO SOMETHING POSITIVE WITH A STROKE THREAD?