I am sure he knew how, but that isn't what he was into.Willie Mosconi knew how to play but not how to teach it to others.
Teaching someone takes time and most people aren't going to give you a large portion of their time for nothing.
I am sure he knew how, but that isn't what he was into.Willie Mosconi knew how to play but not how to teach it to others.
Very true. Unless a person has some eyesight issues, everyone is very well capable of aiming a cue ball to the object ball correctly. Next, it comes to cue ball delivery (with a cue stick). Here it is the source of all the troubles.I think it is more than that. I think anyone who has played seriously as a hobby or better already just sees the angles and knows when the shot looks right. You don't have to be world class to do that.
Well, for real, some of sports people can not teach others. They just do what nature gave them, usually unable to even explain, let alone teach.I am sure he knew how, but that isn't what he was into.
Teaching someone takes time and most people aren't going to give you a large portion of their time for nothing.
You don't have to look very far. The spilling of the "secrets" started with Ray Martin's book, accelerated greatly with Byrne's books, and now info is available indexed and illustrated on Dr. Dave's site.... You might think that it’s all there in the open but there are secrets to this game as some things just hide in plain sight, well it used to be… but today the knowledge is out there and you need to search for it.
Paul Newman?mosconi had one student that excelled greatly, i think you know who i mean
Exactly but before that some secrets were hidden and unless you know physics it wasn't that obvious.You don't have to look very far. The spilling of the "secrets" started with Ray Martin's book, accelerated greatly with Byrne's books, and now info is available indexed and illustrated on Dr. Dave's site.
You do have to filter out quite a lot of ... ummm ... "less reliable" info, some of which is posted here, but you have to evaluate all info:
It took me three or four readings of Mosconi's little booklet to understand what was in it, but that's because my game was developing at the time. Much of it didn't really make sense until I had a feel for how to hit the ball. And here are two secrets about Mosconi's book: he didn't write it and there are errors in it that can hurt your game.
- Can you understand it?
- Is it true?
- Does it work in your game?
Which is sad because it is all pretty simple if you go at it the right way.Exactly but before that some secrets were hidden and unless you know physics it wasn't that obvious.
Things like hitting the rail first on a frozen ball, or throw and even deflection is misunderstood even today with so much info and buzz around it.
What is there to explain? Explain how you align your body and cue to that 1 foot long 5 degree cut. You simply look at the shot from behind, step in and put your cue down where it needs to be. There is no magical equation, kinda like shooting a free throw, after you have missed enough times you start to develop the muscle memory to start making free throws, stick with it and eventually you become good at it because you shoot a million free throws, almost like we heard that somewhere else before. How do you explain how to make a free throw other than saying "shoot the ball through the hoop"?World class pocket billiards performers still know what they know but realize there is no use explaining it.
The questions would never stop.
There are so many people who want to know.
They would never be left alone.
Gorst knows. And he could explain it.
But what for?
What were you before you were human?
Gorst: Different.
Different how?
Gorst: It would only frighten you.
-the day the earth stood still 2008
A.I. Gorst stopped communicating because humans could no longer understand it.
-Automata 2014
Gorst is not an alien
Gorst is not A.I.
But some people believe he is someone they need to exalt.
And believe others should do so as well.
Go figure.
What do any of you think he knows about aligning a cue stick to make
a shot that you don't know or wouldn't understand?
Or probably couldn't do if he explained it to you?
Get real.
He still knows what he's doing and has decided not to take the time to explain
because it is simply too much of a burden and not worth it.
But I'm sure at some level he thinks you are all very amusing.
I'm happy for him.
I just think you shouldn't sell yourself short.
What do they know?
Efficiency.
Years of practice has taught them efficiency.
In a nutshell, this is what they could teach you.
And save you an immense amount of time as a result.
I knew a guy for several years. He asked me once why I didn't put salt and pepper on my eggs.What is there to explain? Explain how you align your body and cue to that 1 foot long 5 degree cut. You simply look at the shot from behind, step in and put your cue down where it needs to be. There is no magical equation, kinda like shooting a free throw, after you have missed enough times you start to develop the muscle memory to start making free throws, stick with it and eventually you become good at it because you shoot a million free throws, almost like we heard that somewhere else before. How do you explain how to make a free throw other than saying "shoot the ball through the hoop"?
Just like everyone else these world class pocket billiards performers don't know what they don't know.World class pocket billiards performers still know what they know.
The "you don't know what you don't know" applies to everything, the people who don't understand that and think they know everything are usually the ones with the most problems.Just like everyone else these world class pocket billiards performers don't know what they don't know.
The individuals with the most knowledge and ability to execute that knowledge come out on top.
What if they knew more?
Scary thought
It may apply to everything, but where does it really matter? I’d say it really matters in competitive sports.The "you don't know what you don't know" applies to everything, the people who don't understand that and think they know everything are usually the ones with the most problems.
It could matter in a lot of things. Doing some electrical repairs on your home but you're not an electrician. Fixing your car but you're not a tech. First flight in your experimental aircraft but you're not a pilot, the list goes on.It may apply to everything, but where does it really matter? I’d say it really matters in competitive sports.
For example I don’t have the knowledge of a medical doctor. I’m not trying to practice medicine either.
Who are you competing with in your long list of examples?It could matter in a lot of things. Doing some electrical repairs on your home but you're not an electrician. Fixing your car but you're not a tech. First flight in your experimental aircraft but you're not a pilot, the list goes on.
If a player can't as you say execute at a high percentage, then they don't really have the knowledge.Knowing is the easy part.
I know 99.8% of the shots the best player in the world is playing as I watch them.
It's the execution and the high percentage you execute that accounts for ability playing pool. All these guys that make it look easy put in tremendous amounts of work and had strong mentors to emulate.
2 different thingsIf a player can't as you say execute at a high percentage, then they don't really have the knowledge.
I don’t blame them. There have been pros come on AZB in the past and some of the “I’m the smartest guy in the room” posters drive them away by arguing details about physics and stuff. I don’t think every champion can articulate exactly why they do what they do and why it’s effective. So when a 500 Fargo starts debating with them, they take off.Of course.
But he still knows exactly what he's doing and he knows how he got there.
Yet he's not spilling the beans.
But I respect that.