Streaming 2025 Derby City

jasonlaus

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I blame that on Accu-Stats. They do an inadequate job of letting fans know the broadcast schedule. How hard is it to come on here and tell people what time the matches start?
Somebody posted it started at 1230 local time, so I just assumed they were an hr behind.

What a dumb way to announce the time if you're on eastern standard time. (Not the person who posted it on here)

I watched the final rack and then went back and watched the first 2 lol
 

Coos Cues

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The players want to be paid and respected as professionals they should shoot all the balls in and not wear blue jeans and tee shirts.

You never know who might be watching.

Maybe that potential break through corporate sponsor who says "Thanks but no thanks"
 

jasonlaus

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I blame that on Accu-Stats. They do an inadequate job of letting fans know the broadcast schedule. How hard is it to come on here and tell people what time the matches start?
And there was no way of knowing on digital pools crappy site. I don't even know where people found the start times, I'm just glad they posted them here
 

jasonlaus

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The players want to be paid and respected as professionals they should shoot all the balls in and not wear blue jeans and tee shirts.

You never know who might be watching.

Maybe that potential break through corporate sponsor who says "Thanks but no thanks"
1/4 of the people in the audience were looking at their phones - if a live audience isn't interested who in the hell is gonna throw a cent of advertising/sponsor $ at them. Pitiful.

At least i didn't notice the usual 8 -10 people sleeping this year
 

ALT_ESV

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1/4 of the people in the audience were looking at their phones - if a live audience isn't interested who in the hell is gonna throw a cent of advertising/sponsor $ at them. Pitiful.

At least i didn't notice the usual 8 -10 people sleeping this year
I think there’s like a missing camera setup from either the rafters or up in the air that shows the size of the crowd and it cuts to during breaks in play. Like it just shows the people in the VIP seats around table. With matchroom, there’s more space to angle the cameras to get more of the crowds on the downtime.

There’s also a bunch of people around the table that have been there for decades and aren’t going to be on the edge of their seats like you got at the Hanoi Open.
 

jasonlaus

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I think there’s like a missing camera setup from either the rafters or up in the air that shows the size of the crowd and it cuts to during breaks in play. Like it just shows the people in the VIP seats around table. With matchroom, there’s more space to angle the cameras to get more of the crowds on the downtime.

There’s also a bunch of people around the table that have been there for decades and aren’t going to be on the edge of their seats like you got at the Hanoi Open.
If you're not there to watch then why are you there is the question
 

ALT_ESV

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To be clear, I’m agreeing with you. What I’m saying is the cameras don’t really show past the single row up front. There’s good people around the table so I don’t want to make this sound insulting. But for the finals, I think a lot were the stakehorses, partners, sponsors, or long time fans in every accustats video. For these people, they don’t need to be there to watch like the other ardent fans who drove for hours to see the big guys play but rather they just support their team.


If there were actual commercials between racks, tv timeouts, etc…the guys behind the camera could address this and be like, “Respect the game, get off the phone, and look interested or we will replace you”. But they can’t because cameras are always rolling for ppv.

But this comes down to my main point about having an extra camera for the B-Rolls or crowd reaction. The cameras on the table are too close up so only about 20 people’s reactions are captured. At the beginning of each match…Have a live camera doing a walk in from the second floor showing the people in the balcony looking over the edge then pan down to the table with the five rows of bleachers on each side. They could have shown more emotion of the fans and get the energy going but I mean, it’s the same cinematic feel for the past 20 years.
 

bpeacock

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My 2nd time to DCC. Croud engagement was good. Very few empty seats. Organization was better than last year. Screens with scores at every table. We enjoyed the experience. Hope I can make it back next yr.
 

iusedtoberich

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IMO, this has been the best DCC ever, as a home viewer!

The brackets finally were good. (Props to Digital Pool).

The time slots of the matches were good.

The network of side streamers showing free matches on Youtube was great. (Props to Digital Pool again).

The tournament finished on time, in front of an awake crowd.

I'll give the whole show an A for this year.
 

Bob Jewett

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... This is not the WNT break box. ...
Yes, the break box was 2 diamonds wide. The WNT box is about 4 inches narrower on each side. There is the added complication that at DCC in/out is determined by the belly of the ball and not the center, so that takes away about an inch at DCC.

But I don't see how that is going to make a significant difference with the 9 on the spot as far as the wing ball going. It seems like it should take only a minor change in aim to get the same action.
 
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Bob Jewett

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Fedor was nuts forfeiting against filler!!! Had a chance to win all 3!
If he had done what was needed to win 9-8, that match would have ended about 4:30 AM with his Chohan match in 8 hours followed by his SVB match after an hour break, and then Alex for 9-Ball. Epic but unlikely.
 

Badpenguin

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Yes, the break box was 2 diamonds wide. The WNT box is about 4 inches narrower on each side. There is the added complication that at DCC in/out is determined by the belly of the ball and not the center, so that takes away about an inch at DCC.

But I don't see how that is going to make a significant difference with the 9 on the spot as far as the wing ball going. It seems like it should take only a minor change in aim to get the same action.
Against Shane, he used belly of the ball. No ref.

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Against Fedor, belly of the ball. No ref.
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Against Alex, edge of the ball. Ref.

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Note that Fedor was breaking from the same location.

Maybe that 1" does make a difference, and that is why MR came up with that weird break box. Regardless, everyone else had the same chance to break from the same location.
 

AtLarge

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The DCC rule:

Edge of Ball Determines Position at Head String
The “base of the ball” rule does not apply at DCC. To be playable, object balls must be completely down table of the head string. This is determined by the EDGE of the Ball. The edge of the ball may not touch or overlap the head string, even if the base of the ball is completely down table of the head string. The decision of the referee is final.​
Even the Break Shot, the EDGE of the cue ball must be fully behind the head string.
 

Badpenguin

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The DCC rule:

Edge of Ball Determines Position at Head String
The “base of the ball” rule does not apply at DCC. To be playable, object balls must be completely down table of the head string. This is determined by the EDGE of the Ball. The edge of the ball may not touch or overlap the head string, even if the base of the ball is completely down table of the head string. The decision of the referee is final.​
Even the Break Shot, the EDGE of the cue ball must be fully behind the head string.
Well, Filler was not doing that. But when Filler was using the base of the ball, he was doing 5+ packs at a time. When using the edge, he was not. But other players were also, so whoop-de-do.
 

ShortBusRuss

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The DCC rule:

Edge of Ball Determines Position at Head String
The “base of the ball” rule does not apply at DCC. To be playable, object balls must be completely down table of the head string. This is determined by the EDGE of the Ball. The edge of the ball may not touch or overlap the head string, even if the base of the ball is completely down table of the head string. The decision of the referee is final.​
Even the Break Shot, the EDGE of the cue ball must be fully behind the head string.
Right. Because that what we really "need" at DCC, is rules that have the potential to create issues/arguments/unexpected fouls. Total amateur hour.
 

InsertCleverNameHere

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Absolutely nobody ever respects the edge of the ball rule for any ball in hand situations. I played a lot of matches and watched a lot more. It’s completely ignored on the regular.
 
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