Strengthen your mental game

Most people can't meditate for 5 minutes without having a plethora of thoughts

AtLarge said:
I found this:

Education
The Ohio State University
Ph.D., Counseling

Cognate studies of expertise: Sport, Health, and I/O psychology
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Unfortunately it''s not possible to learn these things in a class room environment, it takes real experiences. He hits on a few good points, although he's off base on others (imo).

Saying we can control our feelings and emotions is like saying we can control our thoughts. Anyone that has actually meditated for long periods of time know this is not true.....although through time, training and dedication we can develop this skill.

Most people can't meditate for 5 minutes without having a plethora of unintentional thoughts......without question they "real eyes" they have no control over their own thinking processes.....especially at the subconscious level where (app.) 90% of them dwell.
 
AtLarge said:
I found this:

Education
The Ohio State University
Ph.D., Counseling

Cognate studies of expertise: Sport, Health, and I/O psychology
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Thanks. And I just want to be clear: I'm skeptical of him not because of his degree, which is fine, but because he's an author/speaker, whose money is made from selling books, rather than doing research and testing ideas like his piece about confidence.
 
The problem with a lot of this mumbo jumbo is that you have to have the skill first. If you have the skill, most people find that the confidence comes along much more easily.

Lou Figueroa
 
JoeyA said:
You can say what you want about confidence being an emotion or emotion is a belief in yourself or that confidence is tied to chemistry BUT and I mean a BIG BUT, I have confidence in my play because I practice well. If I don't practice well, I have less confidence.

Even having a rather large bank of knowledge, does not bring forth great confidence either.

The greatest confidence comes from a combination of pool knowledge, diligent practice, accomplished skills and experience, although I will have to admit, I have utilized information from Sports Psychologists to develop a winning way. A few people gain confidence from other people but their consistency of confidence often wavers with the audience. Having an appreciative audience can also be a hindrance for some.

So to suggest that confidence is something genetic, or chemical and that childhood trauma can cause lack of confidence is taking away from where and how confidence is acquired. You EARN CONFIDENCE! The world is full of world class athletes who suffered great childhood trauma and who came from families who were not athletes. Just my opinion.......

JoeyA
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A big bankroll and matchup right will give you all the confidence you'll ever Johnnyt.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Unfortunately it''s not possible to learn these things in a class room environment, it takes real experiences. He hits on a few good points, although he's off base on others (imo).



Saying we can control our feelings and emotions is like saying we can control our thoughts. Anyone that has actually meditated for long periods of time know this is not true.....although through time, training and dedication we can develop this skill.



Most people can't meditate for 5 minutes without having a plethora of unintentional thoughts......without question they "real eyes" they have no control over their own thinking processes.....especially at the subconscious level where (app.) 90% of them dwell.
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I actually like your posts generally and feel you offer a lot here & get nothing but grief for it but I have to say I disagree with your post here. You don't believe that you can control your emotions or your thoughts. I know you, like myself do meditate & have for a long time, also like myself. I find it hard to believe you would make a statement like that, you know it's possible to control them.
 
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How does that make you feel? ;) LoL jk

Colonel said:
I actually like your posts generally and feel you offer a lot here & get nothing but grief for it but I have to say I disagree with your post here. You don't believe that you can control your emotions or your thoughts. I know you, like myself do meditate & have for a long time, also like myself. I find it hard to believe you would make a statement like that, you know it's possible to control them.
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No, it's not possible to control them (without specific and diligent training that most people are unwilling or unable to do), it's ridiculously easy to manipulate how other's feel, and their feelings will steer the wheels of emotion.

Anyone that thinks they can will be in for a rude awakening in a serous gambling match when things don't go their way. I developed the ability to feel nothing inside, however that's something that had to change later in life. I'd rather feel anything these days than "nothing"......this is what many sociopaths process and it's not pleasant to be around.

How does that make you feel? ;) LoL jk
 
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CJ Wiley said:
No, it's not possible to control them (without specific and diligent training that most people are unwilling or unable to do), it's ridiculously easy to manipulate how other's feel, and their feelings will steer the wheels of emotion.

Anyone that thinks they can will be in for a rude awakening in a serous gambling match when things don't go their way. I developed the ability to feel nothing inside, however that's something that had to change later in life. I'd rather feel anything these days than "nothing"......this is what many sociopaths process and it's not pleasant to be around.

How does that make you feel? ;) LoL jk
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I do agree it requires serious application of specific training as you state but if you apply yourself diligently it's not only possible but can be turned off & on like a light switch, but you know that. That emptiness is not something I found troubling as you state you did though. I always found it quite useful in serious matches. To me it's invaluable to slip into self induced hypnosis in these situations. I've had others question my detachment as sociopathic but somehow that doesn't bother me either, especially when counting the cash. It's why you learned to feel nothing originally right? You mention how easy it is to manipulate how others feel & I agree. I think you'll agree that the learned ability to turn off is quite intimidating to your opponent, it's why you originally learned to do it now isn't it? Self hypnosis is the teacher.
 
Soldiers in war time situations have this happen and it does irreparable damage

Colonel said:
I do agree it requires serious application of specific training as you state but if you apply yourself diligently it's not only possible but can be turned off & on like a light switch, but you know that. That emptiness is not something I found troubling as you state you did though. I always found it quite useful in serious matches. To me it's invaluable to slip into self induced hypnosis in these situations. I've had others question my detachment as sociopathic but somehow that doesn't bother me either, especially when counting the cash. It's why you learned to feel nothing originally right? You mention how easy it is to manipulate others feel & I agree. I think you'll agree that the learned ability to turn off is quite intimidating to your opponent, it's why you originally learned to do it now isn't it? Self hypnosis is the teacher.
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You make good points, I'm not arguing, just the voice of caution. When someone starts messing with their inner world they had better be well equipped. You never know what manner of beast, defect, or demon might appear. ;)

I believe It was necessary to "feel nothing" because the danger and circumstances I was exposing myself to were overwhelming. Fear is the foundation of many human behaviors, sometimes in life or death situations the feelings will shut down. Gambling for a living, knowing if you don't win you won't eat, will certainly put one to the test.

This happened to me, and for some reason I thought it was okay.....later it took a lot of work to get mentally balanced again. Soldiers in war time situations have this happen and it does irreparable damage in some cases.
 
CJ Wiley said:
You make good points, I'm not arguing, just the voice of caution. When someone starts messing with their inner world they had better be well equipped. You never know what manner of beast, defect, or demon might appear. ;)

I believe It was necessary to "feel nothing" because the danger and circumstances I was exposing myself to were overwhelming. Fear is the foundation of many human behaviors, sometimes in life or death situations the feelings will shut down. Gambling for a living, knowing if you don't win you won't eat, will certainly put one to the test.

This happened to me, and for some reason I thought it was okay.....later it took a lot of work to get mentally balanced again. Soldiers in war time situations have this happen and it does irreparable damage in some cases.
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Good Post CJ.

There's an old WWII movie starring Tony Franciosa. In it, he was a cold hearted bastard. The female lead made a comment that if you haven't laughed or cried then you haven't lived.

In the last scene of the movie, as he sits in a plane & flying out, a tear rolls out of his eye & down his cheek.
 
CJ Wiley said:
Confidence may not be an emotion.......

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CJ, why don't you do us all a favor and just post a link to whatever word du jour you're trying to tie in to TOI so we can see *all* the cute memes?

https://www.google.com/search?q=con...O-xEYqryQTJ14EI&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1116&bih=834

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
CJ, why don't you do us all a favor and just post a link to whatever word du jour you're trying to tie in to TOI so we can see *all* the cute memes?



https://www.google.com/search?q=con...O-xEYqryQTJ14EI&ved=0CB8QsAQ&biw=1116&bih=834



Lou Figueroa
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Why the open disdain Lou? If you think his method of play is a "system", which you have made known you don't put any stock in then I'm sure CJ could be persuaded to match up and play a little high stakes one pocket like you did with JB. I don't think you'll find he chicken wings it like John though. Considering you were tighter than a banjo string in that match I'd wager you'd fold up like a house of cards in this one. Got Gamble?
 
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