Stripped 2003 Bludworth Shaft

Michael Webb said:
Not everyone can get Predator ferrules either Joey, Back in the day before the Internet explosion, the only way to get a tap for a special pin was to, earn the trust of the Cue maker or have one made yourself. Yes Sir, The Internet has changed some things, Willee also has the tap and I have always heard good things about his repair work. The last option in any cue is to change the pin, It takes away from it's originality.


Tap---Tap---Tap

Paul
 
blud said:
I guess, I'm old to some standards, but I know what I, developed many years ago, it is and will always be,
.348X11.455, never said it was anything else..
Call Jeff Prather, @ prather cue parts, he has my taps....
BTW, either Mike or Donald does great work...
blud

I've hit a Bludworth red dot. My game has deteriorated enough to not be a good enough judge on hit. My shaky ole stroke is not disserning enough. What advantage does the pin provide over a standard 3/8x10 pin? Some feedback on this would be nice...this is not meant to open a can of worms....some physical explanation would be adequate.
 
bob_bushka said:
I've hit a Bludworth red dot. My game has deteriorated enough to not be a good enough judge on hit. My shaky ole stroke is not disserning enough. What advantage does the pin provide over a standard 3/8x10 pin? Some feedback on this would be nice...this is not meant to open a can of worms....some physical explanation would be adequate.
Against the old 3/8 10? More contact.
Against the new 3/8 10? I say none.
If anyone misses a ball or shape because the pin is different according to them , great for them.
http://dzcues.com/images/mod pin.jpg
 
Thanks to all

I just want to say to everybody that submitted replys and offered help that I Thank You immensly. Im sending my cue to Mike Webb first thing in the morning. I never dreamed these forums could be sooo helpful, and addicting!!!! I am aspiring to one day become a cue builder so any suggestions or hints, or just helpful bits of knowledge, Im open to all!!!! Willee has been a huge help also. My email addy is ugottha8rackem@hotmail.com All helpful emails welcome. Thanks again everybody!!!!!!
 
blud said:
I guess, I'm old to some standards, but I know what I, developed many years ago, it is and will always be,
.348X11.455, never said it was anything else..
Call Jeff Prather, @ prather cue parts, he has my taps....
BTW, either Mike or Donald does great work...
blud
Leonard, I wasn't really saying that it was 11.47 but instead that it wasn't 11.5. I use one of your cues almost everyday and after around 5 years the threads still have a snug fit. Hope all is going well.

Ray
 
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Rybord said:
Leonard, I wasn't really saying that it was 11.47 but instead that it wasn't 11.5. I use one of your cues almost everyday and after around 5 years the threads still have a snug fit. Hope all is going well.

Ray
Ray, don't worry about it, no problem at all. I built great cues, no EGO talking, just a fact. Any one who knows me, knows I have no EGO about my stuff, built right, to last. Made plenty of doug-ra-me, over the years with my stuff, cues and machinery..Thanks to all my friends and customers....I wish all you guys the best life has to offer....Years ago, I got knocked pretty bad for teaching cuemaking, but now, most understand, that all of you must work harded to make it building cues, lots of cguys building cues out there, make us all work harder to stay on top...
Those who *****ed years ago, because of my teaching, they now thank me, because they realize, that the cream will come to the top.....
Blud
PS, nice to be retired, and Mike, your right on, steak house is kickin-ass, feels good to see folks handing over there dough, bellie full, and smiling as they leave my steak joint....
 
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JoeyInCali said:
Against the old 3/8 10? More contact.
Against the new 3/8 10? I say none.
If anyone misses a ball or shape because the pin is different according to them , great for them.
http://dzcues.com/images/mod pin.jpg
Joey, to me, it apears you know nothing about pins, judging from your post, and reply. Not trying to knock you, sir, but, what do you know of my pin design, over the so called old and new 3/8X10, as opposed to mine??????
The more solid hit the better playing cue you have. A one piece hit is what cuemakers want, my cues do just that. This is my opinon, about my cues.
I don't not talk about others, because we all have our own ideas. Proff's in the puddin, my friend....How many champions play, or have played with your cues, or do you even make cues??? If so, show us pictures of them...You post a lot of talk here, but never seen your stuff...Would also like to see pictures of your shop..Just how many cues do you produce per year, and do you do it as a second job, or do you make your living building cues????
Never seen or heard of your cues, what name do you use?
blud
 
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3/8 x 10 or 3/8 x 11.54638739838 or whatever?

You are entitled to your opinion as well as all of the 3/8 x 10 supporters, but that is no reason to testify to everyone about why the cues you used to make are so great. How many pros use them today? That sounds sorta like the line about " I make my cues weigh what I want and there is no reason to change the weight". An original McDermott hits as good as anything ever made IMO, but that my opinion.:wink:
 
I believe more world titles have been won on Meucci and Cuetec.
Add Uni-Loc quick release on Predator shafts.
I believe 50% of cues now have radial pins.
 
showme87 said:
You are entitled to your opinion as well as all of the 3/8 x 10 supporters, but that is no reason to testify to everyone about why the cues you used to make are so great. How many pros use them today? That sounds sorta like the line about " I make my cues weigh what I want and there is no reason to change the weight". An original McDermott hits as good as anything ever made IMO, but that my opinion.:wink:
I wonder why Mike Sigel has 3/8 10 on his cues.
 
bob_bushka said:
I've hit a Bludworth red dot. My game has deteriorated enough to not be a good enough judge on hit. My shaky ole stroke is not disserning enough. What advantage does the pin provide over a standard 3/8x10 pin? Some feedback on this would be nice...this is not meant to open a can of worms....some physical explanation would be adequate.

Some good info in here from last year about different pins.

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=51715


Blud:I know of NO, 3/8 X 11 pin out there. I developed my pin, which guys say it's a 3/8 x 11, but it's not....3/8 is .375, for those who need to know...

My pin is .348 diameter, X 11.***[ no need to give you the correct pitch numbers, guys, it's more than 11], threads per inch. It's was designed by me many years ago. [ 1976 ], It does have flat bottom as well as sim-flat tops, with inside and outside radius, in the bottoms and tops. Most guys just guess at it's pitch and size. No one has ever told me the correct numbers........

When I developed it, there were only 4 other pins out there. I ran test on all of then and didn't like the results. Testing, I used a tool and die makers ink, [spray on type], and sprayed each pin, then screwed a shaft on it, unscrewed it and measured the WIPE OFF on each pin, and compared all of them. Best was the 3/8X10, about 62% wipe off. I built mine and it came in at 94%. Guys talk about radial pins, and such. I 've been ask to build cues with them and WILL NOT. Mines not broke, don't need to fix it. It WORKS, and has worked well for all these years.

It does have more contact than the normal pins, I designed it for that reason. More contact....

In my opinion, a radial, pin has to much mass for the joint, being to stiff, causing more deflection than you really want. Keep in mind that ALL joints must have movement when playing. The joint does flex a little.
Blud
 
JoeyInCali said:
Against the new 3/8 10? I say none.

I agree with Joey. No disrespect to Blud...but his pin has no advantage over the 3/8-10 pictured below.
 

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blud said:
Joey, to me, it apears you know nothing about pins, judging from your post, and reply. Not trying to knock you, sir, but, what do you know of my pin design, over the so called old and new 3/8X10, as opposed to mine??????
The more solid hit the better playing cue you have. A one piece hit is what cuemakers want, my cues do just that. This is my opinon, about my cues.
I don't not talk about others, because we all have our own ideas. Proff's in the puddin, my friend....How many champions play, or have played with your cues, or do you even make cues??? If so, show us pictures of them...You post a lot of talk here, but never seen your stuff...Would also like to see pictures of your shop..Just how many cues do you produce per year, and do you do it as a second job, or do you make your living building cues????
Never seen or heard of your cues, what name do you use?
blud
Here was his question Blud.
I've hit a Bludworth red dot. My game has deteriorated enough to not be a good enough judge on hit. My shaky ole stroke is not disserning enough. What advantage does the pin provide over a standard 3/8x10 pin? Some feedback on this would be nice...this is not meant to open a can of worms....some physical explanation would be adequate
If he's gonna make more balls and get better shape because the pin in his cue is yours instead of the new 3/8 pin, great.
How much are your pins?
I wonder why those who already have your tap don't use your pins yet.
Who uses your pin besides you and Donald?
How much for brass, titanium and ss?
 
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showme87 said:
You are entitled to your opinion as well as all of the 3/8 x 10 supporters, but that is no reason to testify to everyone about why the cues you used to make are so great. How many pros use them today? That sounds sorta like the line about " I make my cues weigh what I want and there is no reason to change the weight". An original McDermott hits as good as anything ever made IMO, but that my opinion.:wink:

Hello, Showme87,

I guess that's why, McDermott had to PAY Pro-PLAYERS to play with there cues...
I have retired and like it that way, how many play with them now, not sure my friend, but there's around 30 years of my cues out there.. How many have you got out there? Have you developed your own pin, or whatever? My cues were not the standard cue, nothing was bought off the shelf. I, always figured that making a cue play better than the standard, was what cuemakers were trying to do...And I proved it...

BTW, for your information, a 3/8X10, is standard, my pin, was developed by me, and it has proven over time, it was and is a great pin....
I don't believe in copying others, using a standard 3/8X10, or 14, or 18 or whatever, is COPYING others....Some have to copy others, I did not..
blud
 
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JoeyInCali said:
I wonder why Mike Sigel has 3/8 10 on his cues.
Mike ask me if he could use my pin, the answer was no, It's mine, use whatever, I recomended the 3/8x 10 to Mike.
blud
 
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JoeyInCali said:
I believe more world titles have been won on Meucci and Cuetec.
Add Uni-Loc quick release on Predator shafts.
I believe 50% of cues now have radial pins.
Joey, you may be correct for todays playing, but back then, it was a bludworth.
BTW, I've ask you several times, do you have a shop of your own, and what do you call your cues, if in fact you build your own..Seems as if keep dodging this question, sir...
blud
 
blud said:
Joey, you may be correct for todays playing, but back then, it was a bludworth.
BTW, I've ask you several times, do you have a shop of your own, and what do you call your cues, if in fact you build your own..Seems as if keep dodging this question, sir...
blud
I just tinker.
I guess we'll just have to settle with the inferior 3/8th's pins.
Radial, SW-style or 3/8 10 with .308 minor.
 
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If anyone has paid his dues, Leonard Bludworth most certinaly has.
All and all, considering the time and what was available, considering that there were no businesses selling cue parts, ya got to give credit where credit is due.

Bludworth became a very well known and desirable cue maker at a time when there was some very strong competition.
The equipment that he used he modified or designed himself.
It was not off the shelf equipment like we have available today.
There were no books and videos showing step by step the process required to make a cue when he started.
I am sure he had some help learning the trade from other cue makers of that time, but he also had to figure a lot out by himself by trial and error and I am sure he made his fair share of errors.

He worked hard and made a very good name for himself as a cue maker and his cues were and still are valued highly by players at all levels not only for the quality of construction but for the playability as well.
He made hundreds perhaps even thousands of cues over his 30 years and you dont see very many of them for sell used.
When you do they are not cheap.

Blud is old school cue making.
He found what worked and stuck with it.
Ya got to give the man proper credit and respect for what he accomplished as a cue maker regardless if you like him or not.
It is very tough to make a living doing nothing but making pool cues and there are not very many doing it.
That dont mean you got to agree with all he says.
Until I achieve that level of recognition in the cue world I will listen carefully to what he says and give it some heavy consideration before dismissing it as outdated.

If Blud put his pins on the market today ... they would sell.

I am sorry to see Blud leave the business and hopefully he will reconsider at some future time.
 
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