Stroke Tips & Drills

Snorks said:
After your lesson from Scott, do the 7 Mother Drills exactly how he outlines them for at least a month... don't do other drills. Listen on how to train and practice... don't deviate.
+1.

Everything that you did before lessons got you the game you have now. If you want to get better, you have to toss that old stuff and embrace the new.

It takes dedication and persistence, but if you follow the routine, you WILL see results.

-td
 
td873 said:
+1.

Everything that you did before lessons got you the game you have now. If you want to get better, you have to toss that old stuff and embrace the new.

It takes dedication and persistence, but if you follow the routine, you WILL see results.

-td

Everything i did before the upcoming lesson with Mr. Lee got me from basically being a beginner to being able to run multiple racks, play safeties, understand the game better, fuel my passion, etc, etc.

i am not going to toss the old stuff, because it consisted of quality instruction, tapes, drills, magazines, tables, balls, cues, etc, etc. i think i need a fresh approach from a new face right now to fine tune what has suddenly gone wrong, and tweak the old habits.

i am teetotally looking forward to the session with Scott Lee. just hope he is looking forward to this half as much as i am.............:D

DCP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i think i need a fresh approach from a new face right now to fine tune what has suddenly gone wrong, and tweak the old habits.
Sorry, I mis-understood your post. I thought that you wanted to take your game to the top echelon, and not just improve / fine tune old habits.

March on.

-td
 
td873 said:
Sorry, I mis-understood your post. I thought that you wanted to take your game to the top echelon, and not just improve / fine tune old habits.

March on.

-td

td,
I guess I misunderstood as well. Either that or DCP believes he is a "tweak" away from pro status. I am not sure anyone attains that status without fairly regular competitive play.....we'll see.
 
Blackjack said:
DCP

Try these.

The second video is in German only, but just watch what he is doing and you'll get the idea, or ask for a translation from someone here on the forum.

Pool-Billiard exercise "follow drill" with Thorsten Hohmann

Big Position Drill

BJ,
At BCA this year I finally obtained the 3 volume "PAT" series of drills/tests used in Germany for classifying players. Both of the drills in this video are from that series (though they are Stage I or II drills; with Stage III being more difficult for professional level players).

The system is a tremendous way to improve and a tremendous way to classify players according to ability. Unfortunately the English translation is NOT good, and it is VERY difficult to tell exactly how to score each drill, or to tell exactly the rules for each drill.

Nevertheless, it was good to see Thorsten have a little problem even with the stage II follow drill - it is NOT as easy as it looks. Getting whitey to follow all the way into the pocket is TOUGH on a tight table. Frequently you make the object ball (the easy part), but fail to get whitey to follow straight behind it. For players in Stage III (I guess if you are better than Thorsten, Stage III would be good to start with), the cue ball is a diamond further away from the object ball.
 
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This is tanget line drill. Set up a cut shot into a corner kinda close to it , but not to close.

Place a ball on the rail where you think the cue ball will go after you cut the ball into the pocket. Use only center ball at first. The goal is to hit the ball that's on the rail.

Then use whatever spin you want to see if you can predict where the cue will go after pocketing the ball.
 
well, i dont think i should forget about such "Old" stuff as:
1) using the buddy hall cue guide
2) using the rempe and elephant training balls
3) stroking into a coke bottle, or on the table where the cloth/wood meet
4) working on the shots/drills, etc, that people like Rossman, Minor, and Wilson gave me
5) watching the Kinister and Byrne tapes
6) practicing the shots on the Kinister and Byrne tapes
7) subscribing to the three major magazines
8) attending the BCA in Vegas
9) attending the WPBA in Peoria
10) recording every show on ESPN for almost 10 years now
11) buying all of these accu-stats tapes
12) buying four tables in a 4 and 1/2 year period
13) buying a Gold Crown IV
14) buying very nice cues, such as the Chad Carter Custom, Nova Custom, Jacoby, and Schon
15) buying the different sets of aramith balls, including the measles cueball
16) hours of shooting balls into pockets using Pocket Reducers
17) playing/practicing hours almost each and every day
18) buying books, such as the Phil Capelle series
19) etc, etc, etc.

these are the "Old" things i am referring to. if the above list isnt something that has helped me go from a beginner to a pretty decent player then, yes indeed, i have wasted almost 9 years of my life on this.

what i am trying to say, and perhaps not doing a great job of it, is that while i hope to learn and benefit from my session with Scott Lee the above stuff is still worth referring to, worth reading, worth watching, worth practicing, etc, etc. either people are misunderstanding me, or just didnt know of the above, or are just trying to give me a hard time.

am i a "Tweak" away from pro status? nope, of course not. am i a "Tweak" away from being able to keep from embarrassing myself against Mika Immonen? perhaps it will take more than one tweak and alot of hard work, and perhaps more than just one lesson from Scott Lee, but i am bound and determined i am going to try...........

DCP
 
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Snorks said:
After your lesson from Scott, do the 7 Mother Drills exactly how he outlines them for at least a month... don't do other drills. Listen on how to train and practice... don't deviate.

You will see an improvement if you do what your told. If you don't do what your told, you will see the exact same results you currently are getting.


TAP-TAP-TAP....randyg
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
these are the "Old" things i am referring to. if the above list isnt something that has helped me go from a beginner to a pretty decent player then, yes indeed, i have wasted almost 9 years of my life on this.
It's great to have all of the above, and I'm sure they make life better. But the truth of the matter is, you may have developed bad habits along the way that your "old" things can't fix. IMO, the only old stuff you should "keep" before you go into your lessons is your knowledge (e.g., ball making, speed control, safeties, pattern play, etc.)

There is the distinct possibility that you will have to relearn your stroke, and not tweak it. I'm sure Scott will let you know.

-td
 
Blackjack said:
DCP

Try these.

The second video is in German only, but just watch what he is doing and you'll get the idea, or ask for a translation from someone here on the forum.

Pool-Billiard exercise "follow drill" with Thorsten Hohmann

Big Position Drill

can someone just diagram these for me? i cannot see YouTube stuff on the office computer, and my home PC is slow, slow, slow. it plays 2 seconds at a time, then freezes for about a minute, then 2 more seconds, then another minute pause.

thanks for any help.

DCP
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
can someone just diagram these for me? i cannot see YouTube stuff on the office computer, and my home PC is slow, slow, slow. it plays 2 seconds at a time, then freezes for about a minute, then 2 more seconds, then another minute pause.

thanks for any help.

DCP


Dude did i read you saying you could run multiple racks? if you can run multiple racks then the questions you're asking don't make any sence. these are things you should already know
 
This may sounds stupid but Tom Rossman is the brainchild of this little stroke test.

His "impossible combo" trick shot is great for seeing how straight your follow through is. Basically you line up three balls and put another ball inbetween the cue ball and the ball that will be comboing the other ball. You follow through past the cue ball to the ball you're illegally hitting. With this shot you'll see how you're following through. If you draw the ball back, you're following through low. If you send the ball wide, you'll see that you're not following through straight. Stupid and simple, but effective.

If I'm shooting poorly for an extended period of time I might do this, it gives me immediate feedback and I can make a correction. Normally, it's just a result of laziness or lack of play.
 
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