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Has anyone used the Stroke Trainer ( Cue Track) and what do you think of it? Thanks...
Stroke Trainer (Cue Track)
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are you talking about the little fork you put at the end of your cue and you try not to touch the cue ball with it?
if so, i think its a waste of money, you can get the same kind of practice with stroke by using a beer bottle and stroking in and out of the mouth of the bottle
if so, i think its a waste of money, you can get the same kind of practice with stroke by using a beer bottle and stroking in and out of the mouth of the bottle
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Yeah, I got it. I've been using it a bit for months now.
I have a bad habit of lifting up or twisting to the side at the end of my stroke.
I don't lift up as bad or twist as bad as I used to and I think it may be because of using this contraption.
I'm going to continue to use this thing until I can get the hitch out of my stroke.
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Thanks alot Dennis I am always looking for ways to make my stroke better and was trying to find out if it is worth the money.
Thanks alot Dennis I am always looking for ways to make my stroke better and was trying to find out if it is worth the money.
Actually mate if you are speaking about Joe Tuckers Third Eye Stroke Trainer it is not a waste of money, it is designed for the correction of problems due to visual parallax ( like not cueing center ball ).
JESToner...I disagree. Nothing Joe Tucker makes (including the Third Eye Stroke Trainer you are describing), markets or writes, is a waste of time or money. They are all excellent learning tools.
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Cue Track any one use this item. Joe Tuckers third eye is in my opinion the best training aid out their, most people don't ever realize what center of the cueball is. Thats why they play so bad.
Cue Track any one use this item. Joe Tuckers third eye is in my opinion the best training aid out their, most people don't ever realize what center of the cueball is. Thats why they play so bad.
Grow up.
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Actually, I think Chino's remark is a very grown up thought.
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Joe Tucker's stroke trainer does exactly what it's designed to do, which is to help you find true vertical center on the cue ball and eliminate unwanted side spin. It looks like something from the Flintstones I think. For a long time on stop shots, I would almost always load the cue ball up with right spin. After I spent several hours using the stroke trainer, it significantly decreased the amount of side spin I was applying to the cue ball on stop shots, and really helped to improve my stroke. It was only $15, well worth the money. A very effective and practical product that works.
I used it and thought it help me develop my stroke. It must have forced my elbow through an unnatural motion though, after a while I developed a soreness like tendinitis and had to stop using it. It did help when I used it. Was it worth the money? Probably, it didn't cost that much.
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I just read some of the other posts, if you're asking about Joe Tucker's thing or that CueTrack thing forget my review. I was talking about that metal thing that came out years ago with the metal fin in the back against which you rested your hand as you stroked to build a better stroke. It was made by Doug Carter.
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I bought this a few weeks ago because everybody that stands behind me says I have right on the ball and I swear I am hitting dead center. So, I figured this was the best way to check it out. Sure enough when I use the trainer I feel like I have left english on the ball, even though I am hitting dead center.
What is it with my eyes that makes it appear I am hitting center ball when I have a little bit of right on the ball?? Why do I see the CB this way??
I bought this a few weeks ago because everybody that stands behind me says I have right on the ball and I swear I am hitting dead center. So, I figured this was the best way to check it out. Sure enough when I use the trainer I feel like I have left english on the ball, even though I am hitting dead center.
What is it with my eyes that makes it appear I am hitting center ball when I have a little bit of right on the ball?? Why do I see the CB this way??
Actually, just about anything to assist you in developing a good true stroke is worth the money.
The StrokeTrainer & the Cue Track have some great ideas behind them. If you have some kind of external control, requesting that your physical motion remain along a line, the controlling force will soon train your arm to do that controlled motion, without any external control.
Repetition is what training is all about....
Good Luck
The StrokeTrainer & the Cue Track have some great ideas behind them. If you have some kind of external control, requesting that your physical motion remain along a line, the controlling force will soon train your arm to do that controlled motion, without any external control.
Repetition is what training is all about....
Good Luck
To the person who said stroke in the mouth of a bottle-
you can't actually hit balls while doing that, and I find it gets boring pretty quick. Plus the forks also let you know if you tend to twist your wrist while stroking because you see them rotate.
Do you see the cue ball hitting right of center when you put the cue tip right up to the cue ball? Perhaps you aren't stepping into the shot with the cue lined up with the center of the cue ball down the shot line.
you can't actually hit balls while doing that, and I find it gets boring pretty quick. Plus the forks also let you know if you tend to twist your wrist while stroking because you see them rotate.
Do you see the cue ball hitting right of center when you put the cue tip right up to the cue ball? Perhaps you aren't stepping into the shot with the cue lined up with the center of the cue ball down the shot line.
Try Ask the Instructor forum. I'm think its your eye perception, and how your shaft is aligned with your eyes. Some people sight best when the cue shaft is directly under the dominant eye. For myself, I see the cue ball object ball alignment best when its centered between my dominant eye and nose. For another person could be cross eye dominant. Here are some examples taken from the AZ players gallery.
Using a self timer mode, take a couple of shots with a digital camera when you're down on your shot to see where you settle down naturally.
Using a self timer mode, take a couple of shots with a digital camera when you're down on your shot to see where you settle down naturally.
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Dominant eye "pulling" the cue to the right?
GMAC:
Perhaps you have a very dominant eye, but yet you sight the shot with your head centered over the cue with the assumption that you have equal binocular vision? (Humbly, I'm thinking that perhaps you might have a dominant eye that, in combination with the view/sighting information that your non-dominant eye give you, your brain compares the information received from both eyes [both "sides" of the cue], and subconsciously tends to "pull" the cue over to the right to make the view/sighting look "correct" even when it's not.) Have you tried sighting with your dominant eye directly over the cue, and see (or have a friend behind you see) if you're then hitting center ball?
EDIT: P.S.: methinks the possible culprit dominant eye may be your right eye, because with the cue positioned between both eyes, a pure center ball hit "looks" like you're applying left english (this is the way it "looks" to a dominant right eye that's not directly over the cue, but rather positioned slightly to the right of the cue as it would be if the cue were positioned balanced between both eyes). If you do have a dominant right eye, you're in great company, because you can then sight the shot with the cue against your right cheek, just under the right eye, like you're sighting a rifle -- much like the way Niels Feijen and Earl Strickland do. If this works for you in "finding center ball naturally," your brain will learn to "discard" the weaker eye's view/sighting information, and focus strictly on what information the dominant eye is feeding the brain.
Of course, this is all pure supposition on my part, and may not be worth the milliwatt/hours of computer electrical time I used to type this. Hope it's helpful, though.
-Sean
GMAC:
Perhaps you have a very dominant eye, but yet you sight the shot with your head centered over the cue with the assumption that you have equal binocular vision? (Humbly, I'm thinking that perhaps you might have a dominant eye that, in combination with the view/sighting information that your non-dominant eye give you, your brain compares the information received from both eyes [both "sides" of the cue], and subconsciously tends to "pull" the cue over to the right to make the view/sighting look "correct" even when it's not.) Have you tried sighting with your dominant eye directly over the cue, and see (or have a friend behind you see) if you're then hitting center ball?
EDIT: P.S.: methinks the possible culprit dominant eye may be your right eye, because with the cue positioned between both eyes, a pure center ball hit "looks" like you're applying left english (this is the way it "looks" to a dominant right eye that's not directly over the cue, but rather positioned slightly to the right of the cue as it would be if the cue were positioned balanced between both eyes). If you do have a dominant right eye, you're in great company, because you can then sight the shot with the cue against your right cheek, just under the right eye, like you're sighting a rifle -- much like the way Niels Feijen and Earl Strickland do. If this works for you in "finding center ball naturally," your brain will learn to "discard" the weaker eye's view/sighting information, and focus strictly on what information the dominant eye is feeding the brain.
Of course, this is all pure supposition on my part, and may not be worth the milliwatt/hours of computer electrical time I used to type this. Hope it's helpful, though.
-Sean
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