Sugar Tree Cues
- Thread starter Nine Ball
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In my opinion...
Eric, has developed a formula for a great playing / looking cue, above all playing. He hand-selects the finest hardwoods and exotic materials to use in his cues and is very meticulous in his construction--so fit and finish are supurb. When someone makes a killer player and the cue looks good it will command the market...also with the waiting list so long, it helps the secondary market.
My advice is to get on the list if you can...and when you get one, keep it!!!
Just take a look at these cues in progress:
http://easypooltutor.com/modules.ph...&t=10748&sid=431d904cb08565bc472a4cdb090b7821
He posts on easypooltutor.
Pauly
Eric, has developed a formula for a great playing / looking cue, above all playing. He hand-selects the finest hardwoods and exotic materials to use in his cues and is very meticulous in his construction--so fit and finish are supurb. When someone makes a killer player and the cue looks good it will command the market...also with the waiting list so long, it helps the secondary market.
My advice is to get on the list if you can...and when you get one, keep it!!!
Just take a look at these cues in progress:
http://easypooltutor.com/modules.ph...&t=10748&sid=431d904cb08565bc472a4cdb090b7821
He posts on easypooltutor.
Pauly
Because they hit well and are unique.Nine Ball said:
pooldogue said:If im not mistaken, he has stopped taking orders so he can catch up.....
But best of luck getting on the list sir..............
I was not wanting to get on the list. I had one made this year back in January and sold it. Eric and I made a trade. I was just curious why these cues sell for so much with him being an unknown outside the internet. I sold my brand new plain jane with two shafts for $700. My question was answered.
Nine Ball said:
Did you hit with the cue? That should have answered some questions right there
As I recall you were selling a BEM one with a wrap. I personally like the way he chooses his wood and how openly he shares his knowledge of wood. His shaftwood selection is amazing and are very dense and heavy. Some are even hand cut and kiln dried by him personally from trees he cut down. I personally think that his cues look great without points and his ringwork is amazing also. His cues seem to read my mind on long shots and I even break with the cue. There are a lot of cuemakers that I can choose from to purchase from. What makes me choose Sugartree above the others is A) knowledge of wood and materials B) playability C) quality of construction and D) artistry. (thats just the short list) Now a lot of cuemakers have these qualities but I always loved working with wood myself and appreciated the natural beauty of wood and woodgrains. Sugartree cues knows exactly how to emphaize and bring out the best look of the woods that are used. Sharp points and inlays do not impress me as much as awsome grain and wood combos. This is the main reason I would choose to spend my money on these cues.
Vicdotcom
Nine Ball said:
I think part of that is because his cues don't come up for sale as often on the secondary market. And when they do come up for sale, they are snapped up pretty quickly. This doesn't give to many people a chance to try them. Might be why its taking longer to get word of mouth going outside the internet?
Vic
I can say this.....
.....Worminator and lenoxmjs had 3 of 'em at VF......and I was shocked that they lasted a single day.
Come day 2, they were still there.....but mind you, it was during the work week, when most folks OTHER than players were still doing the daily grind.
Then, in one fail swoop, a guy came and bought all 3.
Eric's got a HUGE following....and for a guy relatively new on the scene, that says alot!!
.....Worminator and lenoxmjs had 3 of 'em at VF......and I was shocked that they lasted a single day.
Come day 2, they were still there.....but mind you, it was during the work week, when most folks OTHER than players were still doing the daily grind.
Then, in one fail swoop, a guy came and bought all 3.
Eric's got a HUGE following....and for a guy relatively new on the scene, that says alot!!
Plays good...
...the cue I offerred really played great. I took it to the pool hall for a little while. It had a very firm, solid hit, yet you still had a lot of "feel" or feedback from it. Really good balance. Very tight grained shaft. I think that might just be the secret.
Joe
...the cue I offerred really played great. I took it to the pool hall for a little while. It had a very firm, solid hit, yet you still had a lot of "feel" or feedback from it. Really good balance. Very tight grained shaft. I think that might just be the secret.
Joe
I have a plain jane Sugartree with curly purpleheart forearm/butt sleeve and tiger maple forearm. It is one of the best hitting cues I have owned and I have quite a few (Murrell, Viattorre, Coker, Carmeli, Ned Morris, Mike Stacey, Schon, Joss, Viking, Lucasi, KC, Adams). I've also hit with a few Southwests and a Zylr cue and IMHO the Sugartree is comparable to these high end cues in terms of playability.
i have had 2 of them and they were both beautiful,but i did not like the shaft taper.i think they have been hyped up to a mystical level here at AZ.now whenever one comes up someone just buys it no matter what the cost.it is crazy.the woods are great and they do have a good "hit" but i would say they play very well.it is all opinion though i like the way Kersenbrock,some old Southwest,Skip Weston,Gilbets,Martinez,Bender,Kikel,Olney,etc.play.if you like those stiff parabolic type tapers then you might not like the Sugartrees.his taper is almost the same straight back for about 14" and it produces kind of a whippy shaft that gives a little and certain shots.i am kind of wierd about my cues though.in a match certain tough or tricky shots come up that some cues don't handle well for me.really his taper just doesn't fit my style and he will change his taper for anyone i was told,and the taper is so long that it can not be re-tapered into a parabolic type taper.no offense meant to any Sugartree lovers.i love the way they look and like the way the are made and the way they just hit a ball,but i can't seriously play with one.the guy does have some bad ass wood.
masonh said:
We look at taper differently as I think Eric's taper is short and thick. It goes down (14" you say) but then it fattens up really fast. For me, I thought the taper is hard to get used to for someone who's plays with long stroke and those used to "pro" tapers.
His taper is different? Yes. Whippy? No
I think it's great that you and I have different opinions as I don't believe one cue maker is right for everyone.
And his cues are 3/8x10 pin so theoretically, you can screw on another shaft of your liking that is 3/8x10 and play with it.
I sometimes do this with my cues as I have my favorite radial pin shaft, 3/8x10 shaft and 3/8x11 shafts from different cue makers.
His secondary market value has jumped significantly recently ... maybe partially due to the fact, he is not taking any more orders. I think due to the value jump, we are beginning to see some cues in secondary market for people to cash in.
i love his pin.it definitely has the most wood contact of all pins bar none.also everyone who looks at it says it is a 3/8-11 they don't beleive you when you say 3/8-10.extremely flat bottomed threaded 3/8-10.more surface contact than the Kers pin.i hope i made it clear that i like his cues and his workmanship.i just can't play with them b/c of the taper.i hated to sell mine b/c i am a wood freak and they both had some unreal looking woods.both of them were sold at profit 2-3 times over.the guy is hot.no doubt.you are correct they are not "whippy".that was a bad adjective.they just give a little too much for me.
... share the wealth bro ....