Suggestion for the "For Sale" sub-forum ...

gweempose

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It seems to me that at least 95% of the items listed in the "For Sale" sub-forum are cues/shafts. It's also such an active sub-forum that posts tend to get knocked down the page very quickly. Because of this, if you are in the market for anything but a cue, you have to sift through pages and pages of posts in order to find what you're looking for.

I was thinking it might make sense to have a separate sub-forum specifically for cues, shafts, and perhaps even cases. Everything else could be listed in a general "For Sale" area. This would make it much easier for people to quickly see what other items are for sale such as tables, lights, balls, furniture, etc ...

What do you guys think?
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I get that designing the system to get the best possible user experience is a 'goal'...but:

Anyone who doesn't search for specific terms is just browsing and both user types are supported adequately in current format.
It seems to me that at least 95% of the items listed in the "For Sale" sub-forum are cues/shafts. It's also such an active sub-forum that posts tend to get knocked down the page very quickly. Because of this, if you are in the market for anything but a cue, you have to sift through pages and pages of posts in order to find what you're looking for.

I was thinking it might make sense to have a separate sub-forum specifically for cues, shafts, and perhaps even cases. Everything else could be listed in a general "For Sale" area. This would make it much easier for people to quickly see what other items are for sale such as tables, lights, balls, furniture, etc ...

What do you guys think?
 

jimmyco

NRA4Life
Silver Member
I like it the way it is.

Twice found something I was not looking for, and although did not NEED it, was very pleased to have found it.

Never would have bothered to look in the misc. bin.
 

gweempose

Registered
I get that designing the system to get the best possible user experience is a 'goal'...but:

Anyone who doesn't search for specific terms is just browsing and both user types are supported adequately in current format.

I agree, but why settle for an "adequate" experience when it could be easily improved? What I'm suggesting would not only make it much more convenient for people who are browsing the ads, but it would also help out the sellers by keeping their items from getting lost in the shuffle. :smile:
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I agree, but why settle for an "adequate" experience when it could be easily improved? What I'm suggesting would not only make it much more convenient for people who are browsing the ads, but it would also help out the sellers by keeping their items from getting lost in the shuffle. :smile:

In your opinion...but there will always be things to consider that someone will think will result in improvement.

Including undoing prior change.
 

tim913

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
It seems to me that at least 95% of the items listed in the "For Sale" sub-forum are cues/shafts. It's also such an active sub-forum that posts tend to get knocked down the page very quickly. Because of this, if you are in the market for anything but a cue, you have to sift through pages and pages of posts in order to find what you're looking for.

I was thinking it might make sense to have a separate sub-forum specifically for cues, shafts, and perhaps even cases. Everything else could be listed in a general "For Sale" area. This would make it much easier for people to quickly see what other items are for sale such as tables, lights, balls, furniture, etc ...

What do you guys think?

I agree 100%!!!!
 

$TAKE HOR$E

champagne - campaign
Silver Member
You should have seen it when the Wanted and For Sale was combined, what a nightmare that was. There are always ways to make things better but the old KISS option is easy. There is a search function that will pinpoint anything anyone wants to find and will even do tables, chairs, memorabilia...etc.

I dont mind it the way it is now but I for sure think there should be a limit on active threads in the for sale section. I try and group cues and cases together out of respect to other members for sale listings unless its something very unique or high dollar and warrants its own set of pictures or something. People posting 9 different threads of cues or cases for sale is annoying AF and also pushes everything way back. Combine that with several people doing it and you can literally make a for sale thread and when the wave of people whoring the site out hits, its pushed back into oblivion. That garbage is for FB, everything in the pool world is becoming more and more mainstream and losing the old school uniqueness of its past.

The 48 hour bump rule was a godsend and being able to converse with members in a thread without it being brought back to the top is highly beneficial.
 
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tim913

AzB Silver Member
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I mean I buy things on other forums, I'm a big archery buff. If you select 'Classifieds' on a popular archery forum I frequent, it brings you to where you can select Bows, Accessories(which includes sights, releases, treestands, arrrows...etc.) and other categories. This forum doesn't have to go that far but it would be nice to at least separate the cues from the other items, and at the top of each sub-forum, even if there's only two, just have the WTB/WTT which will eliminate the general Want to Buy forum and have it uncluttered also
 

gweempose

Registered
There is a search function that will pinpoint anything anyone wants to find and will even do tables, chairs, memorabilia...etc.

The search function is great if you know what you're looking for, but sometimes you just want to browse the for sale posts to see what might be available. With everything all lumped together, it's easier to miss random stuff for sale like a ball cleaner, instructional DVDs, cool artwork, etc ...
 

Rubik's Cube

Pool Ball Collector
Silver Member
I like your idea, sir. :)

I'm interested in pool ball collecting, so having a sub forum that filtered the cues and shafts would certainly appeal to me.
 

Black-Balled

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The search function is great if you know what you're looking for, but sometimes you just want to browse the for sale posts to see what might be available. With everything all lumped together, it's easier to miss random stuff for sale like a ball cleaner, instructional DVDs, cool artwork, etc ...

How you gonna see what is really available, when you have it spread all about?

Visit each section? Now the question approaches absurdity.
 

Kickin' Chicken

Kick Shot Aficionado
Gold Member
Silver Member
I think the op's suggestion may have had more merit a couple of years ago when things were really hopping on the FS forum but it's not any more.

It's not terribly uncommon nowadays for there to be items on page 1 from the previous day.

imo, the AZ mgmt having split out the Wanted forum did a sufficient job keeping things orderly in Wanted / For Sale (and there's even an eBay specific subforum).

best,
brian kc
 
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Keith E.

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
You should have seen it when the Wanted and For Sale was combined, what a nightmare that was. There are always ways to make things better but the old KISS option is easy. There is a search function that will pinpoint anything anyone wants to find and will even do tables, chairs, memorabilia...etc.

I dont mind it the way it is now but I for sure think there should be a limit on active threads in the for sale section. I try and group cues and cases together out of respect to other members for sale listings unless its something very unique or high dollar and warrants its own set of pictures or something. People posting 9 different threads of cues or cases for sale is annoying AF and also pushes everything way back. Combine that with several people doing it and you can literally make a for sale thread and when the wave of people whoring the site out hits, its pushed back into oblivion. That garbage is for FB, everything in the pool world is becoming more and more mainstream and losing the old school uniqueness of its past.

The 48 hour bump rule was a godsend and being able to converse with members in a thread without it being brought back to the top is highly beneficial.

Greenie sent your way Sir.

Keith
 

BmoreMoney

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I agree, but why settle for an "adequate" experience when it could be easily improved? What I'm suggesting would not only make it much more convenient for people who are browsing the ads, but it would also help out the sellers by keeping their items from getting lost in the shuffle. :smile:

I see that you're new here. A couple years ago there were changes made to the for sale section and it almost made the for sale section go away it got so bad. All ideas; including yours, we're discussed with the owner of this site. The discussion about the for sale section was literally beat to death. All members got to chime in directly to owner as to what / how they wanted the FSS and this is what was came up with so don't expect any further changes any time soon.
 

cuesblues

cue accumulator
Silver Member
I find the sites where you have to look for a specific item quite boring.
This is not a production cue seller forum where people go to buy a Z28 Predator.
AZ is a custom cue and billiards related forum where you never know what will popup.
Guys will a little dough may see something cool and buy it, but we aren't looking for anything specific.
A guy perusing the for sale section may see a tooled case, or a one pocket book,
you never know, and those are the guys who actually buy stuff.
People like to bash the tire kickers, but the tire kickers are and always have been the
people who buy things on AZ Billiards...at least the ones who are left.
90% of the cues I sell are not going to people looking for a cue to play with, so if you
want to make things more boring than they already are, the add a some sub-forums, and watch sales drop again.
 
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Type79

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
This may not directly respond to your suggestion, but many are not aware of the search function in the yellow tabs labeled "New". This initiates a search and returns all new posts since the last time you visited AZ. It is not dependent on the computer or device you use. It is tied to your username.
 

tim913

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
If you use the 'search' function like a lot of people say to do, and let's say you search for 'case'. If someone just list their case as an 'Instroke 2x4', but they do not have the word 'case' in the description, is it going to show up on my search? This is just one example of possibly missing something on a search because of the way it is described. Why not just have 2 categories, maybe 'cues' and 'everything else'?
 

ideologist

I don't never exaggerate
Silver Member
It seems to me that at least 95% of the items listed in the "For Sale" sub-forum are cues/shafts. It's also such an active sub-forum that posts tend to get knocked down the page very quickly. Because of this, if you are in the market for anything but a cue, you have to sift through pages and pages of posts in order to find what you're looking for.

I was thinking it might make sense to have a separate sub-forum specifically for cues, shafts, and perhaps even cases. Everything else could be listed in a general "For Sale" area. This would make it much easier for people to quickly see what other items are for sale such as tables, lights, balls, furniture, etc ...

What do you guys think?


I think you need to use the forum tools. You can search for specific items. If you break it up as suggested, 90% of the sub-forums would just sit stagnant and/or have incorrect listings.
 
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