Sumo Tips?

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I was wondering how everyone feels about Sumo Tips. For Those who have played with them; how do Sumo Tips compare to other tips out there? I would appreciate any info and feedback anyone could give me on them; especially on how well they play, whether they mushroom and their hardness. As a thank you, I will give everyone reps on any helpful replies.
 
PoolFool said:
I was wondering how everyone feels about Sumo Tips. For Those who have played with them; how do Sumo Tips compare to other tips out there? I would appreciate any info and feedback anyone could give me on them; especially on how well they play, whether they mushroom and their hardness. As a thank you, I will give everyone reps on any helpful replies.
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Sumo tips are very hard. IMO, they are only good as jump/break tips. I tried them several times and never liked them as playing tips. They are just too hard for me.
 
I just got a sumo tip

I was told that the one I got was a layered tip and, therefore, old. Newer Sumo tips are not layered. Anyway, I like the way it plays. My other cues have Talisman Hard tips and the Sumo seems a bit less hard (less of a 'tink' sound). Of course, it still does not make nearly enough balls!

Jim Eales
 
I tried out a Sumo tip on an OB shaft I was originally going to use for breaking. I found out that not only did it break well, but it played well too. It is a harder tip though, and as such, didn't mushroom much. I left the tip on the taller side when I installed it and it barely mushroomed even with the taller side wall. The only down side to the Sumo is that on miscues, sometimes a piece of the tip will chip off. I had heard this before from people, but did not experience it until recently when after I miscued on a break, I looked at the tip and a chunk was missing. For the price though, they are a pretty good choice if you prefer a harder hitting tip.
 
The above posts basically combine my thoughts on the Sumo as well. I tried them long ago as Samsara was using them as their standard tip. They hold shape well & play reasonably well if you like a hard water buffalo type tip. As roddyc said...the downside is that on a miscue they will all too often blow a rather large chunk out of the edge. There many quality tips on the market that will play better than a Sumo. Try the Sniper, its very popular as are most of the Tiger line. Kamui is an excellent choice as well and can be had in many different hardness levels to suit your taste.;)
 
Eric Crisp(I think that is his real name) - aka Qbuilder

Ok fine, the guy who makes the Sugar Trees lol, I know he really likes Sumo tips from the sound of it, ask him for a little review if you can.
 
interesting...

Varney Cues said:
Try the Sniper, its very popular as are most of the Tiger line. Kamui is an excellent choice as well and can be had in many different hardness levels to suit your taste.;)
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I have recently tried a sniper and played with it 4 nights a week for a month. For some reason I couldn't adjust to the way it hit. I love playing with hard tips and the sniper was a little soft for me. I have tried many tips in the past and am still trying to find that "perfect" tip. From the list I have tried are Moori's(both Hard and Med), Tiger, Everest, Tsunami, Triangle, Talisman, Chandivert, Sniper, Le Pro and Ram(which imo are a waste of $$$). So far I always tend to go back to a Milk dud Triangle. Kamui's are relatively new to me. I will try some out and see how they feel. Does anyone have any input on Kamui tips? I am curious as to how everyone feels about Hercules and Flying pigs as well. Thanks in advance to everyone for their thoughts and comments.
 
As did Varney, I too agree with all that roddyc had to say. His post was extremely thorough. So much so, that I had to look to see if I had written it. Great post!

The only thing I would add is that if you decide to get a Sumo installed, be sure to tell the installer to cut the tip down to about half it's size. This will PREVENT that nasty chunk from popping out. When I have implemented this technique, I have not ever, to my knowledge, had a chunk of tip pop out on my customers.

By the way, losing half the tip is not a major problem to most because this tip is a bit thicker than most other single layer tips. Also, because it's so hard, it doesn't wear as quickly. If you like a hard tip for breaking, and a tip that you can pick up and use as a player for a short time, then try the Sumo.

General cost for one installed is between 15.00 & 25.00. Your installer may be cheaper, but I doubt it should cost you more.

Gene
 
PoolFool said:
I have recently tried a sniper and played with it 4 nights a week for a month. For some reason I couldn't adjust to the way it hit. I love playing with hard tips and the sniper was a little soft for me. I have tried many tips in the past and am still trying to find that "perfect" tip. From the list I have tried are Moori's(both Hard and Med), Tiger, Everest, Tsunami, Triangle, Talisman, Chandivert, Sniper, Le Pro and Ram(which imo are a waste of $$$). So far I always tend to go back to a Milk dud Triangle. Kamui's are relatively new to me. I will try some out and see how they feel. Does anyone have any input on Kamui tips? I am curious as to how everyone feels about Hercules and Flying pigs as well. Thanks in advance to everyone for their thoughts and comments.
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it all depends on what you like. But if you're like me, and like a hard tip with a bit of bite. I like Kamui's, Everest, Moori Q, Talisman layered WB, and the SUMO layered tips....(samurai). I've found all to my liking.

Tony
 
I installed a Sumo on one of my break cues and I swear it sounded like a phenolic tip. It was very hard and broke well, but as a playing tip would require a lot of grooming and careful attention to chalking. Most people look for a tip that you can sometimes forget to chalk and not worry about a miscue. The Sumo would require you to be at your best behavior at all times.
 
> I wholeheartedly believe in them,but they are a finicky sort. Sometimes,it takes a couple hours play to get them to feel right. Other times,they're perfect on the first ball you hit. In other cases,they get TOO hard,and no amount of scuffing will help. I prefer them over just about anything,especially on my Schon with ivory ferrules. I tend to not want to believe a layered tip can be that hard consistently. Tommy D.
 
Sumo WB, Etc.

I just bought a TS SP cue with a DZ shaft that has a SUMO WB tip installed on an Ivorine III ferrule. This shaft on basically any cue I put it on shoots extremely solid. I have not played with it alot yet (less than a week); however, long shots are dead nuts, draw shots are effortless...have not done alot of english and spin shots but, nonetheless I'm very impressed with this tip (as well as the shaft Bob)!!!

I recently installed a Tiger Everest tip on my Pat Diveney playing cue and felt it was a much more forgiving tip than the Moori or Talisman tip I had been shooting with prior.....seemed a little easier making some spin/english shots!?!

For an inexpensive "hard" tip I don't think you can really go wrong with a "Pressed" Triangle tip....for the more novice/beginner players, IMHO ;)
 
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Sumo's are my favorite!!!!!! The non-layered that come red before they're installed.
 
PoolFool said:
I have recently tried a sniper and played with it 4 nights a week for a month. For some reason I couldn't adjust to the way it hit. I love playing with hard tips and the sniper was a little soft for me. I have tried many tips in the past and am still trying to find that "perfect" tip. From the list I have tried are Moori's(both Hard and Med), Tiger, Everest, Tsunami, Triangle, Talisman, Chandivert, Sniper, Le Pro and Ram(which imo are a waste of $$$). So far I always tend to go back to a Milk dud Triangle. Kamui's are relatively new to me. I will try some out and see how they feel. Does anyone have any input on Kamui tips? I am curious as to how everyone feels about Hercules and Flying pigs as well. Thanks in advance to everyone for their thoughts and comments.
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PoolFool
If your preference is toward harder tips, you probably will not like a Hercules. I consider them to be on the softer end of the hardness range. They're a good tip for the money as far as layered tips go, but I don't think they're what your looking for.
Bill
 
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