SVB doesn't remove the magic rack

IamCalvin06

IamCalvin06

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Idk if anyone else sees this my way. I believe SVB doesn't remove the magic rack bc it's part of his confidence that he knows its not in the way. When it is, then he'll move it.

They say pool is a one man game and the opponent can't do anything while you're at he table. But... Damn that's gotta get in the head of some aware and slightly scared opponent that "this guy knows exactly whats going to happen that he doesn't need to move that thing"

I mean I have done things like this before as well like leaving the bridge on the table bc u know ur not going back down table but SVB is just like "eh, it's just another blocker that I'll play shape around"

Intimidating to an already defeated opponent
 
I think the "triangle" rack should remain part of the game

I'm sure he doesn't remove the magic rack for the same reason I don't ...IT's A PAIN IN THE BUTT!!!

I actually think we SHOULD NOT be able to remove it and it should remain on the table like a sand trap in golf....at least we could make use of an otherwise disruptive piece of equipment. I'm a bit old fashioned in this respect, I think the "triangle" rack should remain part of the game......they have great triangle racks, DUFFY in San Antonio makes one of the very best.



IamCalvin06 said:
Idk if anyone else sees this my way. I believe SVB doesn't remove the magic rack bc it's part of his confidence that he knows its not in the way. When it is, then he'll move it.

They say pool is a one man game and the opponent can't do anything while you're at he table. But... Damn that's gotta get in the head of some aware and slightly scared opponent that "this guy knows exactly whats going to happen that he doesn't need to move that thing"

I mean I have done things like this before as well like leaving the bridge on the table bc u know ur not going back down table but SVB is just like "eh, it's just another blocker that I'll play shape around"

Intimidating to an already defeated opponent
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I think magic rack should do a magic trick and disappear, I prefer wood racks


Why am I the Colonel? Because I always get the chicken
 
Magic rack traps the mobey ball repeatedly. Leads to easier outs and wired combos. I refuse to bet a dollar if it is used. You see 9 and 10 balls go back slow, hits the rack and stop. Happens continually on streamed events. Takes difficult routes on 9 away. I could spot the world the 8 with that rack because the 9 is in.
 
takeitdown said:
Magic rack traps the mobey ball repeatedly. Leads to easier outs and wired combos. I refuse to bet a dollar if it is used. You see 9 and 10 balls go back slow, hits the rack and stop. Happens continually on streamed events. Takes difficult routes on 9 away. I could spot the world the 8 with that rack because the 9 is in.
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I am sure you could find plenty of opponents to change your position on that...
 
Why do you guys hate the magic rack?
It makes for consistency and if it`s perfectly flat it can remain on the table and not affect the balls unless it`s a super slow roll.
 
I like the MR, but I believe there should be a rule that it's removed right after the break. If a ball or two are on it, have one or two people remove it correctly. I know it's a pain in the butt, but I believe it's worth it for the tight racks it gives everyone. Johnnyt
 
Kim Bye said:
Why do you guys hate the magic rack?
It makes for consistency and if it`s perfectly flat it can remain on the table and not affect the balls unless it`s a super slow roll.
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Because it has changed the game for the worse IMO. Now we have soft breaks & pattern racking. The wing ball is guaranteed depending on what side you break from. Breaks should not be predictable & boring. (unless its 14.1 or 1 pocket) :wink:
 
Takeitdown, I will gladly take the 8. Lets get something going. If you put enough crackers on the line I'll even pay for your flight and hotel.


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XmarathonX said:
Because it has changed the game for the worse IMO. Now we have soft breaks & pattern racking. The wing ball is guaranteed depending on what side you break from. Breaks should not be predictable & boring. (unless its 14.1 or 1 pocket) :wink:
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1. Pattern racking has NOTHING to do with what type of rack is used, so that is nothing more than a red-herring.

2. What you are really saying is "I don't like having a tight rack for my opponent.". And, "The magic rack pretty much means the one will be in the same spot every time. With the wooden rack, I can easily have it forward or back a little to mess with the wing ball going in or not going in.".

All the magic rack does is ensure a tight rack. Period. The talk of "loading" the rack is nonsense. You aren't going to get the ob to compress into each other with that rack. You can only get them touching each other, no more. The wing ball changing it's path to the pocket because of going over the rack (all balls are initially on the table, not the rack) is immaterial and just another red-herring. If it going over the rack at speed actually changed it's path,(which it doesn't), that would easily be remedied by moving the rack a hair forward or back. But, we don't see that reality, do we? Because it's not a reality, only a myth.

In a tight rack, even from a wooden rack, the 9 ball barely moves. If the 9 moves, you know it wasn't a tight rack if the rack is broken from the side rail. If the rack is broken from the center, or near center table in the kitchen, even with the magic rack, the 9 will move a considerable distance. In fact, reliably enough that one can call it in the upper corner pocket, getting kicked in by the ball at the back of the rack.

So, those objecting to the magic rack, either are dealing with myths about it, or like to cheat the rack to their advantage and their opponents disadvantage.
 
Neil said:
1. Pattern racking has NOTHING to do with what type of rack is used, so that is nothing more than a red-herring.

2. What you are really saying is "I don't like having a tight rack for my opponent.". And, "The magic rack pretty much means the one will be in the same spot every time. With the wooden rack, I can easily have it forward or back a little to mess with the wing ball going in or not going in.".

All the magic rack does is ensure a tight rack. Period. The talk of "loading" the rack is nonsense. You aren't going to get the ob to compress into each other with that rack. You can only get them touching each other, no more. The wing ball changing it's path to the pocket because of going over the rack (all balls are initially on the table, not the rack) is immaterial and just another red-herring. If it going over the rack at speed actually changed it's path,(which it doesn't), that would easily be remedied by moving the rack a hair forward or back. But, we don't see that reality, do we? Because it's not a reality, only a myth.

In a tight rack, even from a wooden rack, the 9 ball barely moves. If the 9 moves, you know it wasn't a tight rack if the rack is broken from the side rail. If the rack is broken from the center, or near center table in the kitchen, even with the magic rack, the 9 will move a considerable distance. In fact, reliably enough that one can call it in the upper corner pocket, getting kicked in by the ball at the back of the rack.

So, those objecting to the magic rack, either are dealing with myths about it, or like to cheat the rack to their advantage and their opponents disadvantage.
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How often do you see pattern racking & soft breaks with traditional racks? How often have you seen balls moving slowly into the magic rack after the break either stop prematurely or move direction? To each their own but I dislike the magic rack & always will. Personally, I love the visceral feel & sound of physically racking a set of balls with a traditional rack.
 
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80P said:
Takeitdown, I will gladly take the 8. Lets get something going. If you put enough crackers on the line I'll even pay for your flight and hotel.


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Kim Bye said:
Why do you guys hate the magic rack?
It makes for consistency and if it`s perfectly flat it can remain on the table and not affect the balls unless it`s a super slow roll.
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Somebody posted a YouTube video of a match between Efren and Fong Pang Chau playing 10 ball using a template rack , don't know if it was Magic Rack brand . I watched about 5 or six racks with both breaking and the 10 ball moved very little or none and was still inside the template , doesn't make for very much variation in racks.
 
When the balls are racked properly, the 10 ball doesn't move, regardless of what rack you're using.
 
victorl said:
When the balls are racked properly, the 10 ball doesn't move, regardless of what rack you're using.
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Thx , i never noticed because i don't play it much , then it makes the game to predictable , in my opinion. If they allowed second ball break it would change that , don't like money ball in predictable location .
 
IamCalvin06 said:
Idk if anyone else sees this my way. I believe SVB doesn't remove the magic rack bc it's part of his confidence that he knows its not in the way. When it is, then he'll move it.

They say pool is a one man game and the opponent can't do anything while you're at he table. But... Damn that's gotta get in the head of some aware and slightly scared opponent that "this guy knows exactly whats going to happen that he doesn't need to move that thing"

I mean I have done things like this before as well like leaving the bridge on the table bc u know ur not going back down table but SVB is just like "eh, it's just another blocker that I'll play shape around"

Intimidating to an already defeated opponent
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You are reading too much into it
I doubt these top pros bother. Probably they are sneakily glad you does not remove.
"LOL Good let us see him blunder trying to overcome that obstacle "
 
XmarathonX said:
Because it has changed the game for the worse IMO. Now we have soft breaks & pattern racking. The wing ball is guaranteed depending on what side you break from. Breaks should not be predictable & boring. (unless its 14.1 or 1 pocket) :wink:
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I think we haven't had consistent racks before and that led to a misconception on what 9/10 ball should be.

I believe if we had this MR from the beginning ppl would have learned that 9 ball is a run out game. It is a stand toe to toe and exchange blows until someone gives up and makes a mistake. Just like 14.1 I don't see players complaining about ppl running 100 and out?

The ppl who complain about rolls/luck and want to reduce it are the same ppl who want the break to be about luck. Counterproductive IMO
 
he could make the wing ball 100 times in a row in Reno.

XmarathonX said:
Because it has changed the game for the worse IMO. Now we have soft breaks & pattern racking. The wing ball is guaranteed depending on what side you break from. Breaks should not be predictable & boring. (unless its 14.1 or 1 pocket) :wink:
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I agree, it turns the game into a joke......a very bad joke indeed. The "Break and Run" averages go through the roof using the magic rack. Shane told a friend of mine he would bet he could make the wing ball 100 times in a row in Reno......that's brutal to fade.
 
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