SVB/Mika Game 20

If Mika had SVB down at 10-3 did the table decide to back SVB for the come from behind win? You don't think there was any luck involved for Mika to get to a 10-3 lead in the match in the first place? Were the table playing conditions equal to both players, then all of a sudden change for SVB to come from behind for the win? Mika could have just as easily won the match too, right?
Mika had to won... He played questionable shape early in the 10-3 rack to get on the 4 ball, started scrambling and eventually gave control to SVB.

Mika lost that set. SVB didn't take it from him.
 
If Mika had SVB down at 10-3 did the table decide to back SVB for the come from behind win? You don't think there was any luck involved for Mika to get to a 10-3 lead in the match in the first place? Were the table playing conditions equal to both players, then all of a sudden change for SVB to come from behind for the win? Mika could have just as easily won the match too, right?
I posted this in my other SVB/Mika thread....


Shot choice.....

Keep in mind T.M.

Pool matches are more often Won than lost by Great defense, board play and shot selection.


Shane could of easily lost this match, but ''got a roll''.

Which I'm sure Mika probably did at least ''once'' to get his Huge lead.

Looking forward to seeing the match from it's beginning.
 
With no template it may have lined up a dead 6-9. Got a nice lil hand flip after that break too.
Funny thing is, the way the 6 rolled off the template during the break, it ended up having SVB play the 6 in such a fashion that he hooked himself on the 7...lol.
If and buts, as they say
 
I went back and reviewed this shot now that the link was provided. 10/10 pro players shoot here. It is totally standard. Yes, it is awkward and difficult. That is why we don't play for a living and they do.

Island, I swear I'm not spoiling for a fight. You are a man speaking my own heart. Most of my life I've never shot a bank and always played a good safety. Clipping the 3 to the end rail and running the cue ball up table is exactly the kind of thing I would want to do, particularly on a tough table or if I felt wobbly at the time.

I'm a very good game manager, but I've taken it as far as I can take it. That works against amateurs but once you start playing top players it breaks down. These guys simply move too good. I'm not saying Mike would jump in the 3 ball, but he's very unlikely to give up ball in hand. Maybe he makes it. Maybe he hooks you back. And even if he leaves a shot, often they will create problems that make you wish you'd shot when you had the chance.

Here's where I will agree with you. If an amateur is playing an amateur and they have this shot, it might be best to play your safety. It would be stupid for them to go for something that is very low percentage and say "I'm trying to play like the pros play". My opinion is that you are supposed to play your game, manage your percentages, and do what gives you the best chance of winning. When you watch the pros you do it so you know which skills you need to continue to develop, not to try to play that way today at the pool hall. If this was your main point and this situation was used as an example of a time you might consider ducking then I'd be totally, totally, totally in agreement. Win the money baby!

When you've got one of the greatest 9 ball players of all time facing a straight shot from out in space on slidey new cloth that draws super easy I think the man is supposed to go here.
 
They do in the later rounds. They don't have enough refs to rack all the prelim matches, so they elect to use a template so there are no racking disputes.

-td
Doesn't take much time to train a person how to rack.

This was not an earlier round, it was a later round.

Having a template/inexperienced racker is NO excuse is just Cheap for the WORLDS BEST PLAYERS.

Use the wood, have the head ref do a quick final ck and break em.
 
From a purity standpoint, it has always been illegal to have anything on the table besides balls, hands, and a bridge while shooting.

I've never used a template and never will. I'll take a sledgehammer to my table before I do.

If a ref was deliberately slug racking, he should be blacklisted. If he was doing it in an event with prize money, he is possibly breaking laws by effectively changing the outcome.
Its a matter of choice at home, but if you are a gambler you'd love the templet, quick racking and its harder to get the slug. I have never had someone check the rack when I'm using the templet and ask me to rerack or complain about gaps, takes a lot of the moves and gamesmanship out of the gambling.
 
Mika had to won... He played questionable shape early in the 10-3 rack to get on the 4 ball, started scrambling and eventually gave control to SVB.

Mika lost that set. SVB didn't take it from him.
100%. Mika got too comfortable with some fliers thinking he it had in the bag. Until he didn’t.
 
Its a matter of choice at home, but if you are a gambler you'd love the templet, quick racking and its harder to get the slug. I have never had someone check the rack when I'm using the templet and ask me to rerack or complain about gaps, takes a lot of the moves and gamesmanship out of the gambling.

I wouldn't gamble with someone I believed would cheat me.

'moves and gamesmanship'. Call it what it is: underhanded and cheating.

I'm too busy to waste my time around people like that.
 
FWIW, Wiktor Zielinski, when asked about the triangle rack, said, “The triangle is useless. No one uses the triangle anymore.”


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I went back and reviewed this shot now that the link was provided. 10/10 pro players shoot here. It is totally standard. Yes, it is awkward and difficult. That is why we don't play for a living and they do.

Island, I swear I'm not spoiling for a fight. You are a man speaking my own heart. Most of my life I've never shot a bank and always played a good safety. Clipping the 3 to the end rail and running the cue ball up table is exactly the kind of thing I would want to do, particularly on a tough table or if I felt wobbly at the time.

I'm a very good game manager, but I've taken it as far as I can take it. That works against amateurs but once you start playing top players it breaks down. These guys simply move too good. I'm not saying Mike would jump in the 3 ball, but he's very unlikely to give up ball in hand. Maybe he makes it. Maybe he hooks you back. And even if he leaves a shot, often they will create problems that make you wish you'd shot when you had the chance.

Here's where I will agree with you. If an amateur is playing an amateur and they have this shot, it might be best to play your safety. It would be stupid for them to go for something that is very low percentage and say "I'm trying to play like the pros play". My opinion is that you are supposed to play your game, manage your percentages, and do what gives you the best chance of winning. When you watch the pros you do it so you know which skills you need to continue to develop, not to try to play that way today at the pool hall. If this was your main point and this situation was used as an example of a time you might consider ducking then I'd be totally, totally, totally in agreement. Win the money baby!

When you've got one of the greatest 9 ball players of all time facing a straight shot from out in space on slidey new cloth that draws super easy I think the man is supposed to go here.
I agree, he has to shoot that, why not follow instead of draw?
 
Just finished watching that 40 minute bite, with Shane down 10-3.

Shanes at 9-10 and breaking.

This is the World Championships., the closest thing our sport has compared to the PGA Masters/Augusta.

Notice on the break, with that plastic/thingy/template....how its effect on the 6 ball, Entirely changes that game and very easily its outcome.

I'm not upset that it could of been the rolllllllllllllll that beat Mika, but it trashed that game in my opinion.

It's NOT good for the sport/ever to have a piece of plastic on the table, changing ball movements.

It's hard to believe they don't use a Good Wooden Rack.
So I used a bunch of YouTube magic. Watched it frame by frame. Here’s a screenshot of the ball just before contact. SVB not having an easy 6-9 combo was all that happened. The 6 would have still gone to the bottom right corner. With the carom then making the 9 not even come within a diamond of the pocket. Had this caused SVB to not win the game, I could see why you’re complaining. But it didn’t, so you’re complaint to just be heard again?
 

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