SVB/Sigel
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its possible, he has the discipline , he also has easier fields to match up against, not a knock on SBV, his play has really stepped up the past 2-3 years. he is on track-lets hope he stays there. I believe he will, he is head and shoulders the best we have here,
Denis O might play a hair stronger but SVB aint reached his highest level yet. I think he will get better, but he aint having to play Earl, JA, Buddy, Sigel, etc in their prime's when there were lots more top players. So SVB might have it a bit easier. But who knows that was then and this in now and he is robbing everything he plays in, i respect that lots.
he is still on the make up<-----inside joke(well there is some truth to that :thumbup
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Denis O might play a hair stronger but SVB aint reached his highest level yet. I think he will get better, but he aint having to play Earl, JA, Buddy, Sigel, etc in their prime's when there were lots more top players. So SVB might have it a bit easier. But who knows that was then and this in now and he is robbing everything he plays in, i respect that lots.
he is still on the make up<-----inside joke(well there is some truth to that :thumbup
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I think Shane has it just as tough as Mike did. Sure Sigel, Hall, JA were in there primes then but JA is still playing good. Orcullo, Busty, Corey, Appleton, to name a few are not pushovers. The more I think about it the fields now are tougher than ever before. In Mikes hay day there were fewer upper echelon players. Now with more and more players from across the world that are "world beaters", its tougher.
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Its a close call, there were a lot more tough American players in the 70's and 80's but there were few international player..., if any? So SVB should get the record, there were also so more tournaments so Sigel had more opportunities in the states to play.
I would sure be nice to see one or two more American players step up there game and push or pass SVB for a while...
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Its a close call, there were a lot more tough American players in the 70's and 80's but there were few international player..., if any? So SVB should get the record, there were also so more tournaments so Sigel had more opportunities in the states to play.
I would sure be nice to see one or two more American players step up there game and push or pass SVB for a while...
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That's right, there were more tournaments. I didn't think abut that. Its a shame, I wish it was still as many going on. I was a big Sigel fan. I'm not hoping Shane or anyone for that matter surpasses such a great record. I am glad that thee is someone out there doing what Shane is doing. He's on fire.
First of all, it's much harder to win major events today. When Sigel was piling up his list of titles, the game hadn't gone truly international yet.
Although Filippino players had begun to show up a little earlier,what we know as the Filippino invasion happened chiefly in the mid-90's and the Europeans were not a major force in pool until about 2000.
Shane's relative failure in the WPA events is not a knock on him but, instead, a confirmation of how difficult it is to best the kind of fields one typically runs into in the world championship events.
The fields are so much deeper and there are so many more good players now than then. So many more players are capable of winning an event now than back then.
Along with Appleton, Orcullo, and a few others Shane is one of the superstars of the game today and his skills at rotational pool are comparable to those of American legends like Sigel, Archer, Hall and Lassiter.
Still, as we so often note on this forum, player cannot easily be compared across generations, and are best compared to those against whom the y competed with.
Shane's career will, I believe, one day be on a par with all the greats, with or without surpassing Sigel's title count.
Although Filippino players had begun to show up a little earlier,what we know as the Filippino invasion happened chiefly in the mid-90's and the Europeans were not a major force in pool until about 2000.
Shane's relative failure in the WPA events is not a knock on him but, instead, a confirmation of how difficult it is to best the kind of fields one typically runs into in the world championship events.
The fields are so much deeper and there are so many more good players now than then. So many more players are capable of winning an event now than back then.
Along with Appleton, Orcullo, and a few others Shane is one of the superstars of the game today and his skills at rotational pool are comparable to those of American legends like Sigel, Archer, Hall and Lassiter.
Still, as we so often note on this forum, player cannot easily be compared across generations, and are best compared to those against whom the y competed with.
Shane's career will, I believe, one day be on a par with all the greats, with or without surpassing Sigel's title count.
Yup, Shane vs the 1985 version of Mike Sigel would be a dandy in anything but 14.1. Does TAR do time travel?
