Imo, any discussions about Mr. 626 participating are a little early, primarily given his alleged medical situation and the fact he has not yet expressed interest in being a participant.
SVB to Kick Off High Run Attempts
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And that is what John had, in addition to skill. I wonder what kind of kid he was?!
Never too early to do the right thing. Bobby can acknowledge John's historic accomplishment with the reverence and sincerity that such an event deserves and extend a standing invitation without reservation and condition. John then can indicate whether or not he would like to accept that invitation and they could work out the logistics. The current world high-run record holder needn't express interest to get an invitation to any 14.1 high run contest that purports to be serious.
I copied the videos from Day 1, and here's the results of the 10x software scan.
SVB Day 1 Summary
SVB 1.1: SVB 14.1 High run challenge begins tonight. duration 1.41
SVB 1.2: SVB Day 1: The Legends of Pocket Billiards High Run Challenge, duration 2.27.13
SVB 1.3 SVB Day 1 High run attempts, duration 2.57.09
SVB 1.4: SVB Night Sessiion, 14.1 high run attempt, duration 0.56.42
SVB 1.5: SVB - The legends of pocket billiards high run, duration 1.55.49
SVB Day 1 Summary
SVB 1.1: SVB 14.1 High run challenge begins tonight. duration 1.41
17
42
14
43
132 ?? Chopped video. Ends abruptly in the middle of a shot.
SVB 1.2: SVB Day 1: The Legends of Pocket Billiards High Run Challenge, duration 2.27.13
14
70
14
71
90
66
84 ?? Chopped video. Ends abruptly in the middle of a shot.
SVB 1.3 SVB Day 1 High run attempts, duration 2.57.09
159 ?? chopped video, started with 2 racks already counted on the scoreboard.
27
163
28
SVB 1.4: SVB Night Sessiion, 14.1 high run attempt, duration 0.56.42
41
84
42 ?? chopped video ended abruptly just before break shot
SVB 1.5: SVB - The legends of pocket billiards high run, duration 1.55.49
56, chopped video, starts with scoreboard at 2
164
58
23
14
69
Total 25 runs attempted. 4 runs over 100.
I thought he had a 257 or 267? Was that not day 1, but the day before?
He had a 200 ball run on his practise day, one day before the event started.
So you accept this opinion piece but not the BCA's word, not Bob Jewett's word, not Freddie Agnir's word, not the owner of the room's word, not the word of the Predator Group, one of the major major sponsors in pool, their testimonials as to the validity of John's run are not good enough? But the opinion of some random person who says he thinks that the claimants are honest is enough for you to ignore John's 626 and go with Cranfield's 768 as the high run you think is the world record. Even IF you think that snubbing John's 626 is classless.
Your own claimed "300 on a Diamond" that you claim is a world record is without proof. You expect us to follow your lead and "question" John's integrity because YOU haven't been given "uncut" video AND/OR because according to you the table was gaffed to be exceptionally easy yet you don't apply these same standards to the runs you do acknowledge, nor to your own, and not to your own high run contest.
I know it's a bitter pill to swallow considering how often you have gone out of your way to knock John these many years but the right thing to do is to acknowledge that he is the current OFFICIAL world record holder and give him the respect that is due for that feat. If you choose to do that with sincerity and honesty then John will have to choose whether to accept your new position and make a new start or not.
Sorry to go off topic, can you talk a bit more about what this software can do? Is it an AI system? I'm colorblind and can rarely figure out what ball is what on a stream. I'd love some system that automatically put a big number over each ball. Thanks.
Maybe JS will be the closer to come in after someone else breaks his record.
Chili, I was betting against the 257 but if this information is accurate then 164 was Shane's high run on the official day one. So if he didn't beat 164 on day too I lose.
@Chili Palmer
Thanks for that great interview with Charlie about his close friend Willie Mosconi. Here's a clickable link for other folks' convenience:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGm4TtJQKXE
Arnaldo
Maybe. Most likely this format is unlikely to produce John's record being broken, statistically speaking. My money would be on Filler to do it though as he would rather eat broken glass than not beat a personal challenge.
Would be freaking awesome though IF someone did beat John's record and then he showed up and beat the new record. That's something I would pay to see.
Charlie says in this interview that Cuelemans said that the mark of a true pro is that they adapt to conditions and then goes on to knock modern players for doing just that. Did he not think that modern players would have adapted to the round robin conditions and done well?
And Bobby posted this and FAILS to see the irony in the fact that he dogged John disgustingly about the table conditions and more and has refused to give John full credit for the breaking Willie's record. Yes he has mealy-mouth acknowledged it but never come out and given John full respect for the accomplishment without reservation and comparison.
While we are sharing big runs, how about this 304 from Niels in a proper match?
Do we know what the highest run in long challenge match is? I feel like this accomplishment gets lost in the discussion of solo practice runs.
Do we know what the highest run in long challenge match is? I feel like this accomplishment gets lost in the discussion of solo practice runs.
Great one. I have to think At Large probably has the answer.
Not AI, just video analysis.
The software just keeps track of what balls are on the table, and where they're located.
It can tell the balls apart if the video is of good quality. On Youtube there are lots of matches where the camera is of poor quality, or wasn't color calibrated. The balls can then look wrong. For example, the 3, 4, and 5 are indistinguishable, or the 2 and 6 and 8 look very similar.
With poor color calibration it can be particularly difficult to identify the striped balls.
In many cases though you can overcome poor colors if you have a good initial view of the rack and can identify all the balls. The software then just keeps track of how they move around the table after the break and always knows where they are.
This is part of a bigger project I've been working on, but thought I'd test the software on this 14.1 challenge. 14.1 is pretty simple to keep track of.
This will sound cynical, but I imagine there'd be a dozen creative ways to subtly shark John while he was playing, if he showed up . . .
. . . and John knows that -- sorry and unfortunate to realistically envision this possibility. We've all been around the block in this regard.
Arnaldo
respect!