**SVB - wins both rotation events at Derby **

Dennis beat Shane in an all around in 2012 on TAR and Shane thumped Dennis in 10-ball in June of last year. Ask Dennis if he wants any more of that.
 
a lot WOULD match him.... but they dont

or they CAN'T - shane is on the other side of the globe. could that also be the reason why shane did not participate in last year's China and Japan Open?

if you think you are the best, you go find someone who claims to be the best and beat him on his turf. you do not invite him in your homecourt and beat him there. in PI we call it "dayo" or foreigner. you go be a dayo and beat him on his table.
 
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Shane never wins overseas ... blah, blah. Since he can't win, put your money where your mouth is. I offered 5:1 he would not win the US Open and 4:1 he would not win the Derby. These are US events he has already won and is the favorite. What odds (it's got to be 3 times that) are you offering in these overseas events he can't win?

I'll also take Shane and you can pick any other player not from the host country (I do believe travel and home field advantage mean something). BET.
 
Of course he does if he's getting a free roll.

free roll aside, nobody in the world can beat Shane in a race to 100 10-ball. I don't care what country it's in, what table it's on, etc...

9-ball would be more of a challenge because there are so many great players but I'd still have to bet on Shane for the cash. He's made a believer out of me time and time again. He went to Florida and beat Donnie at a game that I thought was unbeatable. That second day he said "f@#$ it" and just broke the balls hard and ran out. Donnie couldn't soft break and get out because he was never at the table!!

The last few 10-ball matches against world champions haven't even been close. He shot Orcullo full of so many holes I'm surprised he could still walk.
 
Shane never wins overseas ... blah, blah. Since he can't win, put your money where your mouth is. I offered 5:1 he would not win the US Open and 4:1 he would not win the Derby. These are US events he has already won and is the favorite. What odds (it's got to be 3 times that) are you offering in these overseas events he can't win?

I'll also take Shane and you can pick any other player not from the host country (I do believe travel and home field advantage mean something). BET.

Not from the host country ,, LMFAO. That's priceless


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I'm talking about the race to 100 ten ball. Shane is now having to play one-pocket, banks, 8-ball, etc...because nobody can fade him in a long set of 9 or 10 ball.

Oh I thought the best players play all the games ,, funny how some think now 10 ball is the game that decides who's best
Let by old lady and her 12 mph break bust the balls up for a Dennis , Shane matchup and see if Dennis needs 15 on the wire
Funny how his break is not one if this variances


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or they CAN'T - shane is on the other side of the globe. could that also be the reason why shane did not participate in last year's China and Japan Open?

if you think you are the best, you go find someone who claims to be the best and beat him on his turf. you do not invite him in your homecourt and beat him there. in PI we call it "dayo" or foreigner. you go be a dayo and beat him on his table.

The last time SVB went to the Philippines he went undefeated gambling against the top Pinoys...UNDEFEATED... I give them credit for trying though... the rest of ASIA acts like they have never played for money and we know the EURO's except Appleton and Shaw wouldnt bet water was wet...And Appleton and Shaw cant beat SVB... credit to Appleton though as he has tried.
 
Oh I thought the best players play all the games ,, funny how some think now 10 ball is the game that decides who's best
Let by old lady and her 12 mph break bust the balls up for a Dennis , Shane matchup and see if Dennis needs 15 on the wire
Funny how his break is not one if this variances


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I need a translator for this post.
 
He's trying to say...

I need a translator for this post.

Shane's only attribute is his break. If you let an old lady break for both of them, we'll see if Dennis needs 15 games on the wire.

Which is a farcical argument. You take away the break and any difference between the top 200 players in the world becomes negligible.

Jaden
 
We are talking about the best players in the world...no spots, no handicaps

You cant say if Rafeal Nadal cant use his backhand then Andy Murray is then a better player than Nadal.
 
The last time SVB went to the Philippines he went undefeated gambling against the top Pinoys...UNDEFEATED... I give them credit for trying though...

can you tell me what year this "last time" was and in what event here in the Philippines?
 
The point he's making, and that I've tried to make too, is that 'short' races aren't as unfair
as people make them out to be, and that really long races are probably overrated/overkill.

Say you have two guys who play REALLY close.
One player has only a 4% edge on the other, in terms of skill.

Say they play an oldschool TAR-type, race to 100.
IF you have the players clocked correctly, the underdog still has a 28.6% chance of winning the set.
Definitely enough chance for an upset. Even racing to 100 doesn't GUARANTEE the best player wins.

Now let's drop it to a real short race to 11.
now it's 42.6% for the underdog to win.
But almost no tournament involves playing just one dude for a single race to 11.
But even if it were, is that really unfair compared to the race to 100?

The difference between race to 100 (28.6%) and race to 11 (42.6%) is just 14%.
In other words, you're increasing the length of the race by 9 times, just to give the better
player a 14% better chance of winning, when he's probably going to win anyway.
All those extra hours just to give the better player that slight 1-in-7 edge.

Now factor in the intangibles. Mood, momentum, jetlag, and the biggest one of all...
ROLLS. Those things, added together, probably have much more impact than race length,
in terms of whether the better player might get beat by a weaker one.

I'm not sure where you're grabbing your statistics from, but using made up numbers to come to conclusions will only work with people that read posts blindly as paragraphs. I know I've seen you post some things in the past one here, but I've never sat down to go over them and understand what you're doing.

Prove to me the data from TAR matches vs. short races to 11 on the same formats (U.S. Open, Derby) and then I'll give this a chance. And even if those numbers ARE real, 14% is not justttt 14%, if that statistic is real. 14% is a huge advantage given up. 60/40 vs 70/30 is a huge difference.

A 4% edge would be from total game count player vs. player? ie. SVB has won 25 games to Darren's 24 in 1v1 play at the Open? Is that where you're grabbing these percentages from?
 
The event was the last time he went to the Philippines he bet his cash in the pool room, SVB won 7 sets lost 0 against various Pinoys racing to 23, 25 27, etc. beating the likes of DeLuna, Biado, Gomez, etc.
 
Last time I checked no turneys are a race to 100 so it proves nothing

Go look at the World's for snooker. All matches are very long races...the finals is a race to 18 frames, sometimes even longer. Some used to be races to 50. It does prove something...go find me a snooker tournament with decently long races and show me how a low-tier pro has come through to place in the top 3? It never happens.
 
The event was the last time he went to the Philippines he bet his cash in the pool room, SVB won 7 sets lost 0 against various Pinoys racing to 23, 25 27, etc. beating the likes of DeLuna, Biado, Gomez, etc.

dude, those are just words. do you have proof? can you give me at least the year when shane was last here in the Philippines and in which event?
the last WPC events held here in the Philippines were in 06 and 07. then 08, 09 and 2011 for the world 10-ball championships. when was the last time shane was here?
 
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