SW on eBay - DPK?

ridewiththewind said:
Hey all...
This guy has this cue listed as a SW, but the points just don't look right to me. Maybe a DPK? I don't know the look of a DPK well enough to tell, so I'll defer to the experts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Southwest_W0QQitemZ7184446600QQcategoryZ21212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Lisa
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Well, his pics suck, but it does not look like any SW I've ever seen, especially the rings. Looks more like a KC cue that sells for 80 bucks. Also, he describes the points as "floating", which they're not. I've emailed him about the Serial #.
 
ridewiththewind said:
Hey all...

This guy has this cue listed as a SW, but the points just don't look right to me. Maybe a DPK? I don't know the look of a DPK well enough to tell, so I'll defer to the experts:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Southwest_W0QQitemZ7184446600QQcategoryZ21212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Lisa
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SW has made cues that are refered to as "9 Point" cues. The Ebony points in this cue have been re-cut into the maple points, thus giving it 9 total points. One thing that looks a little fishy to me is the ring work in the butt sleeve. In most of the SW cues I have seen with slotted ring work in both positions in the butt sleeve, it is also repeated above and below the wrap. If you are interested in this cue I would definately have the seller take some pictures of the joint pin, upclose and with the forearm included. The lack of detailed description on a cue of this nature seems like another red flag to me.
 
The pictures suck. Can't get a good look at the rings but the points look like a 9 point South West, 6 points with 3 points recut into the long points.
 
damn ya beat me to it!


Worminator said:
SW has made cues that are refered to as "9 Point" cues. The Ebony points in this cue have been re-cut into the maple points, thus giving it 9 total points. One thing that looks a little fishy to me is the ring work in the butt sleeve. In most of the SW cues I have seen with slotted ring work in both positions in the butt sleeve, it is also repeated above and below the wrap. If you are interested in this cue I would definately have the seller take some pictures of the joint pin, upclose and with the forearm included. The lack of detailed description on a cue of this nature seems like another red flag to me.
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VonRhett said:
Well, his pics suck, but it does not look like any SW I've ever seen, especially the rings. Looks more like a KC cue that sells for 80 bucks. Also, he describes the points as "floating", which they're not. I've emailed him about the Serial #.
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It looks like a beat up KC cue at that.
 
The part of the butt cap that can be seen looks funny. Not enough info is provided to tell if it is a SW. Does not look like one and would not bid on it.
 
VonRhett, I think you know the seller of this cue since they come to California Billiards a lot and also know UL. PM me and I'll tell you who they are.

I've seen this cue in person along with TD847 last Sunday.

I don't know much about SW and do not speak on behalf of the seller.

I can tell you that this cue does not have a serial number. It's supposed a SW from early 90s I believe. I think the original owner is the guy who used to own Campbell2 billiard in northern California. Current owner had this cue for many years (I forgot how long but I think 10+ yrs). According to the seller, Jerry have worked on this cue before and Laurie is familiar with the cue and the seller. All this information is per seller.

I passed on getting this cue primarily because it was unmarked Southwest and I didn't want to go through authentication process (not to say this is not SW - I just don't know). I'm thinking of getting finding a '96 pin numbered one if getting any. This would make it a Franklin SW, right?

VonRhett said:
Well, his pics suck, but it does not look like any SW I've ever seen, especially the rings. Looks more like a KC cue that sells for 80 bucks. Also, he describes the points as "floating", which they're not. I've emailed him about the Serial #.
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Fair enough. He did reply to my email, stating that it's 20 years old and no S#. But between NO MARKING on the pin, very different rings and butt, I will pass. If I'm missing out on an early SW, at least I did so by erring on the side of safety.

My opinion is that the seller should send it to Laurie to be authenticated.
I'm not necessarily doubting the origin and certainly not the integrity of the seller, but a completed, recent authentication would go a looong ways for a potential buyer. But that's JMO.

What a shame. I'm always interested in pre-96 SW.

Well, thanks Jazz.

Jazz said:
VonRhett, I think you know the seller of this cue since they come to California Billiards a lot and also know UL. PM me and I'll tell you who they are.

I've seen this cue in person along with TD847 last Sunday.

I don't know much about SW and do not speak on behalf of the seller.

I can tell you that this cue does not have a serial number. It's supposed a SW from early 90s I believe. I think the original owner is the guy who used to own Campbell2 billiard in northern California. Current owner had this cue for many years (I forgot how long but I think 10+ yrs). According to the seller, Jerry have worked on this cue before and Laurie is familiar with the cue and the seller. All this information is per seller.

I passed on getting this cue primarily because it was unmarked Southwest and I didn't want to go through authentication process (not to say this is not SW - I just don't know). I'm thinking of getting finding a '96 pin numbered one if getting any. This would make it a Franklin SW, right?
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Its sounds easy enough to me, ask the guy for local pickup. Have someone trusted from this site to go take a look at the cue and pay cash if al seems right. i see alot of old SW cues, and dpk also. dosnet look like anything i have seen. the veener work looks double thick to me. Most of all the points ive seen have thin sharp points. And i agree the long slot ring work looks strange to me too, as again most of the slot work on rings from sw/dpk seem to be shorter then that.
 
seller does not mention dpk,,,and he would if it were.

also,,,dpk's name is flung around too easily without verification.
 
VonRhett said:
Fair enough. He did reply to my email, stating that it's 20 years old and no S#. But between NO MARKING on the pin, very different rings and butt, I will pass. If I'm missing out on an early SW, at least I did so by erring on the side of safety.

My opinion is that the seller should send it to Laurie to be authenticated.
I'm not necessarily doubting the origin and certainly not the integrity of the seller, but a completed, recent authentication would go a looong ways for a potential buyer. But that's JMO.

What a shame. I'm always interested in pre-96 SW.

Well, thanks Jazz.
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20 year old cue???? He states its like new just about!
 
I am not interested in the cue myself, I am happy with my Skip :-) I just thought it was kinda funky for a SW. And I know there are DPK fans here, so if it actually was one, I was giving a heads up.

Lisa
 
Jazz said:
VonRhett, I think you know the seller of this cue since they come to California Billiards a lot and also know UL. PM me and I'll tell you who they are.

I've seen this cue in person along with TD847 last Sunday.

I don't know much about SW and do not speak on behalf of the seller.

I can tell you that this cue does not have a serial number. It's supposed a SW from early 90s I believe. I think the original owner is the guy who used to own Campbell2 billiard in northern California. Current owner had this cue for many years (I forgot how long but I think 10+ yrs). According to the seller, Jerry have worked on this cue before and Laurie is familiar with the cue and the seller. All this information is per seller.

I passed on getting this cue primarily because it was unmarked Southwest and I didn't want to go through authentication process (not to say this is not SW - I just don't know). I'm thinking of getting finding a '96 pin numbered one if getting any. This would make it a Franklin SW, right?
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Thanks for your info~
 
ridewiththewind said:
Hey all...
This guy has this cue listed as a SW, but the points just don't look right to me. Maybe a DPK? I don't know the look of a DPK well enough to tell, so I'll defer to the experts:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Southwest_W0QQitemZ7184446600QQcategoryZ21212QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Lisa
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Sorry I forgot to follow up on this. Well, better late then never: I met the Seller last weekend and this was indeed a mid-80's Southwest cue. I thought 2K would be a good deal (for me), but he received bids on Ebay of closer to 2500.00. It was in great shape and had obviously been pampered for 20 or so years.
 
SW cue?

I'm just putting in my $.02, but if you check the seller's feedback you'll find the only feedback that's accessable is a listing for the same cue! It looks strange to me and the pictures are so bad you can't tell the details of the cue. Someone feels strong enough to bid $2400+ for the cue though. I'd pass on this one!

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