TALCUM POWDER on rails question.

I know of a couple of these "types".

Best way to stop it, is let Everyone know what they're doing, and start carrying a damp washcloth in a Ziploc bag. Every time he starts up, just follow him around, and fix the rail, especially between racks, and every time I would come to the table.
I would purposely, follow him around from week to week, letting his opponents know exactly what he;s doing. It'll stop after enough people call him out on it.

Morons like this, are in every league, some are just more obvious, than others

It's one of the oldest tricks in the book.
 
Floyd_M said:
Had a situation on a bar table where opponent placed hand talc on the 8 corner rails inches from the pockets.
I tested the 90 degree affects and there is a change of cue-ball direction.
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Anyone know other affects talc has in this situation?
Discussing cheating is a moot point, we know it is.

THANKS
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Any attempt for a player to clean the table before a match or a crucial shot, I would think would be fine as long as no balls in play are touched. However, any intentional act to put anything on the table, including the rails, to dirty the table or change the playability of the table should not be tolerated or allowed, period. I think this is likely addressed in the rulebook for someone wishing to find it.

If the TD is not going to do anything after informing them, then it is up to you to make it known to that opponent, and to clean off the cushions on the table before your match.
 
Floyd_M said:
Had a situation on a bar table where opponent placed hand talc on the 8 corner rails inches from the pockets.
I tested the 90 degree affects and there is a change of cue-ball direction.
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Anyone know other affects talc has in this situation?
Discussing cheating is a moot point, we know it is.

THANKS
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I have only read the first page here but a thought occurred to me throughout my reading of it: Why do you play with these people? Go somewhere else to play and with different people.
 
ChrisinNC said:
Any attempt for a player to clean the table before a match or a crucial shot, I would think would be fine as long as no balls in play are touched. However, any intentional act to put anything on the table, including the rails, to dirty the table or change the playability of the table should not be tolerated or allowed, period. I think this is likely addressed in the rulebook for someone wishing to find it.

If the TD is not going to do anything after informing them, then it is up to you to make it known to that opponent, and to clean off the cushions on the table before your match.
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[yr last line] That's what I did but powder is still in the cloth.

Rules state,.. pretty much in all leagues...
Nothing can be placed on the table as a marker.
___(I use tan chalk and make ABSOLUTELY SURE
___not to leave a mark after lining up with my cue)
Tables must be kept up. (short version)

We have 2 weeks off, will see after the holiday break.
I'll let y'all know the update(s).
 
philly said:
I have only read the first page here but a thought occurred to me throughout my reading of it: Why do you play with these people? Go somewhere else to play and with different people.
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THAT'S WHAT I DID. Left the Tues & Thursday night leagues went up north. Now it's a 5 towns away drive. BUT ONE TEAM (in town) needed a player so here I am, putting up with this KRAP.

5-6 years ago, many others left these 2 nights and went west & north. During that time I hung around out of patience but that's thinning.

Traveling sports teams is about meeting and conversing with new people. You can NOT do either when more & more non-English speaking people refuse to learn OUR language. With this language situation comes illegal coaching. Obscure code words in a different dialect is near impossible to catch unless you have one of them on your team. It also don't matter that rule states to sit away from your team while playing, hidden hand signals happen.
...I didn't want to mention this cause of how flagrant the racist word is tossed these days but this language barrier is a major problem. It would be much simpler if we all were on the same page.
Few decades ago I wrote the higher ups about this language problem. I mentioned if a person does not know "X" language and said person is yelling, no one knows what they're saying. It just might be the person will die because no one knows he's yelling for help. OR the 2 people in an unknown language talking about the best place, to place a bomb.
(OK, mini-rant over :p )
 
tonythetiger583 said:
How big of an advantage is this really?

I get if it's on a diamond table with tight pockets. If it's on a valley barbox with league pockets, the effect seems negligible (no clue though). Like you'll get skids, but you'll both skids. Shouldn't it even out? Won't their balls hang up just as much? If you clean the cueball before you shoot (if you have ball in hand), or before you break and run, technically wouldn't that favour you because they will be playing with a dirty cue ball more often.

I think the biggest advantage they'd have is when the ball skids for either of you, they'll be less upset. Sure it's slimy, but excluding how it effects you mentally. It seems not very effective.

I'd have to know more about both people's skill levels, the equipment, the format etc. Unless there's a specific way to play that they've practiced to make the ball go without sticking, or to skid less, it doesn't seem like a big deal. But, I've never been in that situation, so I don't know.

I think you should bring a towel and some talc of your own. Clean the ball before you shoot, and not even remotely subtely roll it around in a mountain of talc before you hand them a powdered donut. Or just go full chaos mode and put powdered talc everywhere. Play "It's a winter wonderland" on your phone. I wanna see snow angels and cueball trails. See if your league operator still wants to allow talc in his room after it looks like a scene from Scarface.

No one should have talc. Get a glove or wash your hands. Ruin it for everyone, that stuff is cancer.
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Some of the greatest players in the world use it and have for decades. Nothing wrong with it as long as you use it properly.
 
tonythetiger583 said:
No one should have talc. Get a glove or wash your hands. Ruin it for everyone, that stuff is cancer.
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Anyone who uses talc should be required to clean the table immediately after he finishes shooting. You might as well be training a pigeon to poop on the cloth.

And what's wrong with a glove? Is it some kind of a macho thing?
 
Maybe he's just trying to get inside your head, make you more worried about what he's doing, instead of what you should be doing!
 
Imagine if you were a bank pool player and you practiced with talc all over everything ,
You would probably make a lot of banks other people never dreamed went.
hahahahahahahaha .
 
tim913 said:
Maybe he's just trying to get inside your head, make you more worried about what he's doing, instead of what you should be doing!
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NOPE, NADA, CAN'T HAPPEN...ALL these league players know they can't bother me.
They stand RIGHT AT the shot, if I miss & jump the cue I'll get 2 BONUS BALLS :grin-devilish: . SOOooooo I just bang the cue ball rather hard and watch'm jump. They tend to stand aside.

One player needed to watch DIRECTLY OVER the 2 object balls, his + mine, for the "GOOD/BAD" hit. Some non player from the bar said something & I said "I" told him to do it cause it don't bother me. I made the shot with a fair amount of Spinach. They never again questioned my shots.

This older gent left me the 8 ball, 1 diamond off the corner & just off the rail with the cue ball at the other end at 180 degrees to the 8. Only pocket available was that one next to the 8 ball. Well he thought I was going to play soft safe and stood over the 8 ball. SOOooo, I practice stroke several times then suddenly called the 8 in that corner. I used my special Spinach and BANGED it in... game over. He quit pool that sessions end. I heard later he said if I won, he'd quit. OH-well. :rolleyes:

Back in the day when girls did their scanty "Fashion Shows" one would drop her top right at the object ball I'm calling. I'd still made the shot. :D

Actually I do a pretty fair 'head game' on them. I'll watch their stroke arm and when I see a quiver, ah-HA! I know.
 
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If you have a talcum powder phobia, you wouldn't last long in the P.I. :help:
 
cheeters with talc

In the league here in Northern Mi. we run He would be called as a foul It is not permitted to mark the table in anyway on purpose No Different then putting a mark on a rail to better aim for bank shots ect. On his second attempt he would be thrown out of the league for the year.
As for our tournament's they would be run out the door and told not to come back !!cheaters' Are lucky to get home without bleeding !

pipe1976
 
For those who asked for an update...
league Op. tried it on his home table and claimed it didn't change the QueBall action.
I said you didn't try it, here I'll do it to this table. (We're at a leagues bar table)
Before powdering up the rail I set the QueBall about 15 degrees off a corner pocket.
Used left English and varying speeds & English, the Q never went in that pocket.
Powdered up the left rail from a corner pocket, 4 fingers worth.
Used left English, soft speed and the CueBall went in the pocket almost every time.
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I re-requested that team lose all points for that night since RULES say they cheated.
League Op said (ALMOST a quote) He will talk to them and request they not do it again. If they do, immediately clean off the table or move to another table if one is available. .. .. .. :confused:
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It's becoming infuriating to play bar pool anymore since more players are doing their damnest to cheat. And no that the League Op. is (in all basics) siding with these cheats, I'll be looking for a different pool league.
Back in the early 2000, the influx of illegals here was astounding. Someone found the sign in mexico stating, You are all welcome to come to Waukegan. YA!!! IN CAME THE CHEATS TOO. .. .. WTFudge

OH, BTW: 3 bars have been banned from this league. YUP, you guessed it, cheating and HORRENDOUSLY LOUD music. Jukebox is one thing, (really off key) Karaoke, another. I usually played my 3 games right away and left. :angry: THAT does not help the team since I'm their go to guy for, "How did I *'x*..."
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