Tammie Jones, good enough for the women's pro tour

hang-the-9

hang-the-9

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I ran across a YouTube video of Tammie vs Asia in the finals of the 2012 APA amateur. I like how Tammie plays! She seems to shoot as well as the women out on the pro tour. The 4th rack they played she ran out great, some nice shots and position play. She hits the ball well, not too hard not too soft and has great speed selection on the shots.

Edited to add link to video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cca3GozIrLs
 
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hang-the-9 said:
I ran across a YouTube video of Tammie vs Asia in the finals of the 2012 APA amateur. I like how Tammie plays! She seems to shoot as well as the women out on the pro tour. The 4th rack they played she ran out great, some nice shots and position play. She hits the ball well, not too hard not too soft and has great speed selection on the shots.
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Years ago she was top ten on the Women's tour.
 
Cornerman said:
Tammie Wesley Jones. Many times National Amateur Champion. APA Operator with husband Troy Jones out of Muncie, IN. Lover of Russian Chalk. She posts to AZ as EIEIO.
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I love that Russian Chalk too, my favorite. Some may say it's magic in how good it is.

Thanks Fred.
 
I don't think you should be allowed to "go back" to amateur status once you have reached a certain level. Some say they haven't played for a while so their skills have deteriorated, yet they play at the same level as they always did...

I have always strived to become the best I can be and I would be embarrassed to play in amateur level tourneys. I think its discouraging and unfair to the people coming up....
 
I agree with you Adam...yet we see "pro ability" players entering local tournaments all the time, taking off the "cash". Some people will enjoy the opportunity to play someone who is that much better...others will be discouraged that "so and so" was allowed to play in "our bar tournament". There are plenty of regional tour events open to players like you, if you choose to pursue them. Personally I don't recall Tammie being "top 10 in the WPBA", although she did win the opportunity to play in several WPBA events many years ago. Just because you played in a professional event doesn't automatically make you a "pro player". Now if you won, or finished high, that's another matter. Good post! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Wybrook said:
I don't think you should be allowed to "go back" to amateur status once you have reached a certain level. Some say they haven't played for a while so their skills have deteriorated, yet they play at the same level as they always did...

I have always strived to become the best I can be and I would be embarrassed to play in amateur level tourneys. I think its discouraging and unfair to the people coming up....
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Many, many years ago I played in a regional qualifier for the national championship of bar games (this was in New Orleans back around 1991 or so). Four professionals (a woman and three men) turned up and "offered" to enter the tournament to fill some open brackets that threatened to sink the whole tournament. It was put to a vote and we all decided to let them enter (none of them won, BTW). The definition of a "pro" used at the time was any player that cashed at or higher than your entry fee in an open/pro tournament with an entry fee of $300 or more (at the time, we're talking U.S. Open). I think that's a pretty accurate measure and verifiable via Internet, but we all know pro-speed players that never go near the big tournaments, preferring to take off regional/local tournies. I personally don't mind, I love the opportunity to play Brandon Shuff, Mike Davis or many others without having to pay $500 for the priviledge! :D
 
...and yet EVERY one of those national championship bar events, sponsored by Miller or other beer companies, were won by PRO players.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

West Point 1987 said:
Many, many years ago I played in a regional qualifier for the national championship of bar games (this was in New Orleans back around 1991 or so). Four professionals (a woman and three men) turned up and "offered" to enter the tournament to fill some open brackets that threatened to sink the whole tournament. It was put to a vote and we all decided to let them enter (none of them won, BTW). The definition of a "pro" used at the time was any player that cashed at or higher than your entry fee in an open/pro tournament with an entry fee of $300 or more (at the time, we're talking U.S. Open). I think that's a pretty accurate measure and verifiable via Internet, but we all know pro-speed players that never go near the big tournaments, preferring to take off regional/local tournies. I personally don't mind, I love the opportunity to play Brandon Shuff, Mike Davis or many others without having to pay $500 for the priviledge! :D
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I remember Tammie coming to Olathe to play in some of their tournaments, I'm guessing the time frame was the early 90's maybe late 80's. I've always read the magazines and enjoy seeing players that I've read about. Tammie was "ranked" at the time because I wanted to watch her play. She is very solid.

Her returning to play as an amateur really isn't an issue in my mind. First, it's been 20 years or more since she played at a professional level. Second, even though she is an excellent player, the quality of women's pool has grown considerably since that time. Finally, what is the definition of a pro in pool? Especially for women when there are so few events. I know of several players who are technically professional (that's what they do for $$$) but still play in the biggest amateur arenas. Since the sport is unorganized only the top players might be considered professional.
 
Aren't "major" league baseball players sometimes sent down to the "minors" and then returned to the "majors"? Of course.

J
 
jimmyg said:
Aren't "major" league baseball players sometimes sent down to the "minors" and then returned to the "majors"? Of course.

J
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Sure, just as any pro player could play on lesser (minor) pro tours than the WPBA, if they exist. However, major league baseball players are not allowed to return to amateur (college) baseball after they have spent time in the pros.
 
They certainly could if they returned to college as a student. There have been "pro ability" athletes in many sports who returned to amateur/college status athletes, while enrolled in school. I can think of examples in tennis, skiing, basketball...and I'm sure there are others.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Birriards said:
However, major league baseball players are not allowed to return to amateur (college) baseball after they have spent time in the pros.
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Scott Lee said:
They certainly could if they returned to college as a student. There have been "pro ability" athletes in many sports who returned to amateur/college status athletes, while enrolled in school. I can think of examples in tennis, skiing, basketball...and I'm sure there are others.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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Not if they receive money and/or compensation. Can happen in tennis or golf where amateurs can compete in pro events and not take prize money. Doesn't happen in baseball, basketball, football, or hockey.
 
Tammy always been very good player

I knew all 3 of Tammy's husband who all played pool very well. Earl Rapier, her first died of cancer, her 2nd husband who owned a pool room in Arkansas died at early age too. For over 10 years she's been married to Troy Jones, lives in Indiana where her and Troy owned a pool room at one time. Tammy also was good at rodeo competitions.
 
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