taper machine help

chuckie

Registered
I thought i would try my hand at building my own taper machine. I have gathered most of the parts i need with the exception of a cross slde.I am not using any taig based parts. I purchased linear rails and bearings. i plan on mounting a 1/2 plate on top of the bearing slides. Then i need some sort of slide assembly to move in and out to follow taper bar...Then another slide of some sort for router to mount to to adjust router in and out..Any ideas would be appreciated.
tks
 
Thats pretty expensive...Looks like it would do an awesome job...But, im trying to keep costs down as much as possible...most other pool cue/taper machines i have seen on line are using taig parts. Im trying to find a more economical way to build a taper machine. I like doing projects like this, but, maybe i have bitten off more than i can chew...it will be fun though..
yks
 
Since you're already building one axis with linear rails and bearings, you should just buy the parts and build another smaller one.

Jake is right that you don't need a lead screw if you're going to follow a patter or guide so it should be a pretty easy slide to make. Small linear guides are pretty cheap on Ebay.

Also, if you're using round rails for any of the axis movements, I'd strongly recommend going with square linear guides instead. A 15mm rail with bearings is pretty common and cheap on Ebay, and it will carry a huge load with high accuracy. The 20mm and 25mm rails are easier to work with because the mounting holes are bigger, but the 15's are plenty strong enough.

Royce
 
Chuckie,

It's still not clear to me - did you purchase round rails or square/rectangular rails?
The reason I ask is I've built something similar to what you are wanting (though mine is driven by CNC), and I have been through the unsupported round rails scenario - they flex. Supported round rails aren't too bad and the square ones are always supported.
Just wondering.
Gary
 
Wow

I guess I'm a little naive. If you want to build your own tapering machine, why do you need other people to tell you how? Tapering machines are not complex machines at all. There's any number of about 4700 options you could use for a slide. I find it utterly fascinating that guys want to build their own equipment, but want others to give them all of their ideas because they lack the knowledge or imagination. Buying a couple linear rails and bearings doesn't make a machine or a machine builder. The point is, if you're unable to look around on the internet to get ideas, look at other pool cue specific machines, and make a decision, machine design and construction isn't for you, building cues probably isn't either! Nobody is going to hold your hand, you need to have some imagination and get it done if you want it done.

You will be better served by educating yourself on a couple things.

1. Screw pitch and lead... This is twofold, you will need to set up a powered longitudinal feed, as well as a manual cross feed.. Understanding how a screw works will help a bunch!
2. For your cross slide and feed ideas, look through the 8020 catalog. Search tapering machine on here. Go to the Thompson Linear website and look at how they construct linear stages, no Pacific Bearings website has a wealth of info too.

Educating yourself will prove more useful than most questions you'll ask on here.
 
Last edited:
I guess I'm a little naive. If you want to build your own tapering machine, why do you need other people to tell you how? Tapering machines are not complex machines at all. There's any number of about 4700 options you could use for a slide. I find it utterly fascinating that guys want to build their own equipment, but want others to give them all of their ideas because they lack the knowledge or imagination. Buying a couple linear rails and bearings doesn't make a machine or a machine builder. The point is, if you're unable to look around on the internet to get ideas, look at other pool cue specific machines, and make a decision. If your not capable of doing that, machine design and construction isn't for you, building cues probably isn't either! Nobody is going to hold your hand, you need to have some imagination and get it done if you want it done. I just laugh everytime I see posts like this! "Hey guys, I want to do something myself, who can hold my hand and give me the confidence I need to get it done?"

This should be moved to the "ask the cuemaker" section.

Asking for advice or help is not a weakness, especially if you've already tried a few methods. Everyone starts at a certain level. I agree however, that it's an ambitious project. Bob from DZ cues shows a neat way he has his taper setup. I would take a look at that.
 
Thats pretty expensive...Looks like it would do an awesome job...But, im trying to keep costs down as much as possible...most other pool cue/taper machines i have seen on line are using taig parts. Im trying to find a more economical way to build a taper machine. I like doing projects like this, but, maybe i have bitten off more than i can chew...it will be fun though..
yks

keeping costs down should be process-related, not equipment-related
 
Here's my new lanoo linear lathe. Love it!! Made a tapering jig up for the lathe and is fully adjustable for the shaft thickness. Hope this picture helps
20140204_210856_zpst7sugrxr.jpg
 
Last edited:
I guess I'm a little naive. If you want to build your own tapering machine, why do you need other people to tell you how? Tapering machines are not complex machines at all. There's any number of about 4700 options you could use for a slide. I find it utterly fascinating that guys want to build their own equipment, but want others to give them all of their ideas because they lack the knowledge or imagination. Buying a couple linear rails and bearings doesn't make a machine or a machine builder. The point is, if you're unable to look around on the internet to get ideas, look at other pool cue specific machines, and make a decision, machine design and construction isn't for you, building cues probably isn't either! Nobody is going to hold your hand, you need to have some imagination and get it done if you want it done.

You will be better served by educating yourself on a couple things.

1. Screw pitch and lead... This is twofold, you will need to set up a powered longitudinal feed, as well as a manual cross feed.. Understanding how a screw works will help a bunch!
2. For your cross slide and feed ideas, look through the 8020 catalog. Search tapering machine on here. Go to the Thompson Linear website and look at how they construct linear stages, no Pacific Bearings website has a wealth of info too.

Educating yourself will prove more useful than most questions you'll ask on here.

Don't come in here and chastise me for asking questions. If you don't have anything better to contribute than to bust my balls, then ride the pine and shut up..I know your pissed because I didn't buy your Brianna lathe, oh well... At any rate, with or without any help from anyone on the forum, I will complete this task..I was just looking for other ideas that I havnt thought of..I appreciate the advice and pics from all others..
 
Sweet set up.I looked at those lathes awhile back, but havnt heard of anyone who had one for a review.
After you use it awhile, pls me send a review..
 
lathe and taper bars

Buy a metal lathe and add taper bars,I make the taper bars and all hardware to make a lathe into a taper machine.you get 4 indexing taper bars that are pre milled with profile and the finish patterns are adjustable $925+shipping

IMG_3603.jpg
 
Update...
I ordered some 1/2x1 acetal flat bar for my shaft taper profile thinking it would be flexable enough for the profile..Lol..Wrong.Thats some stiff stuff...Gonna order some poly flat bar now...
 
Update...
I ordered some 1/2x1 acetal flat bar for my shaft taper profile thinking it would be flexable enough for the profile..Lol..Wrong.Thats some stiff stuff...Gonna order some poly flat bar now...

You need to mill slots every few inches so you can bend it.
You need holes for the screws to lock it down.
You need a 30" rod to indicate .
 
That's what I did joey..I milled .500x..250 holes every 1"..the delrin mounts to a 1x1 solid aluminum bar..
But, it doesn't bend like the black stuff that the other guys use..this stuff is white....
 
That's what I did joey..I milled .500x..250 holes every 1"..the delrin mounts to a 1x1 solid aluminum bar..
But, it doesn't bend like the black stuff that the other guys use..this stuff is white....

Might as well mill that delrin down to .250" thick.
 
This stuff was fairly flexible. Not sure exactly what Material It was though. some kind of hmpe/delrin maybe?
 

Attachments

  • taperbar1.jpg
    taperbar1.jpg
    40 KB · Views: 216
Last edited:
Back
Top