Taper Roll

[Wedge]

I have seen a lot of threads on the for sale section where perspective buyers will only buy cues, high end or low end...doesn't seem to matter, with absolutely no taper roll. I have a dozen cues ranging from $1K to $4K and I can honestly say when rolled on a table, apart or together they all have a slight variation when they roll. May be due to the cut back taper or variation over time. I am not speaking of wobble just slight taper roll. In MHO it in know way effects playabiliyt.

Having said that, I feel buyers are being unreasonable concerning taper role and when they receive a cue that has it they are not satisfied or want monetary compensation.

Point is I am afraid to sell anything that is dead nuts straight because most cues honestly are not.

Your thoughts

Wedge

 

[qbilder]

Slight variations doesn't absolutely mean it's a warp. It could be a number of things from finish thickness variation to the cue being slightly out of round. It could be slightly out of round from the last cut, sanding, moisture exchange, etc. I'm talking minute differences, not obvious wobble. Cues are built out of wood & funny things happen with wood. Doesn't mean it's ruined or now trash. Doesn't mean anything. It's just wood being wood. But the line of perception is very foggy. What I feel is nothing at all, somebody else may feel is terrible. Something I think is terrible might be nothing to somebody else. Who defines it? Overall, I get exactly what you are saying & see it, too. But it's what the market has morphed in to, and sellers & buyers alike are both equally at fault.

 

[stunshotDAVE]

taper roll?????

place your joined cue on the table with the butt on cloth and joint resting on side rail. if cue will roll with no wobble at the tip, it is indeed. true. if it won't , there is no other kind of word for a cue that won't roll true. we all know what that word is.

 

[Wedge]

Thanks

Slight variations doesn't absolutely mean it's a warp. It could be a number of things from finish thickness variation to the cue being slightly out of round. It could be slightly out of round from the last cut, sanding, moisture exchange, etc. I'm talking minute differences, not obvious wobble. Cues are built out of wood & funny things happen with wood. Doesn't mean it's ruined or now trash. Doesn't mean anything. It's just wood being wood. But the line of perception is very foggy. What I feel is nothing at all, somebody else may feel is terrible. Something I think is terrible might be nothing to somebody else. Who defines it? Overall, I get exactly what you are saying & see it, too. But it's what the market has morphed in to, and sellers & buyers alike are both equally at fault.

Well said...thanks for your input!!!

 

[GoldCrown]

When I picked up the Doc Frye it had a slight bit of uneven daylight while rolling it. Doc said it is the taper.
Selling anything is a hassle. Every buyer is different. Disclose everything you feel should be known and let the buyer make up their mind.

FWIW... my GoldCrown is not 100%. The cues roll different on various parts of the table. That makes the cue look bad.

 

[Fast Lenny]

I think most people are looking for a reason why they play so bad, a cue that is rolled and a tip leaves the table will still shoot straighter then you will. I have seen people running racks with warped cues and miss straight in shots with straight cues. I will steer clear of cues that the tip leaves the table but most shafts when rolled do have some variation which is acceptable to me.

 

[rossaroni]

I think most people are looking for a reason why they play so bad, a cue that is rolled and a tip leaves the table will still shoot straighter then you will. I have seen people running racks with warped cues and miss straight in shots with straight cues. I will steer clear of cues that the tip leaves the table but most shafts when rolled do have some variation which is acceptable to me.

I agree :thumbup:. I see a lot of people who would play better if they just tried to make the ball, and quit worrying about the little stuff.

I tell people I will not say a shaft is 'dead' or 'perfectly' straight. I have seen a lot of cues and shafts, and I do not remember one that is perfect. What is dead straight to one person may have a small roll to another person.