TAR Pockets
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I think you're being sarcastic, but I really enjoyed watching them play on NORMAL sized pockets. There is no bigger feat in rotation pool that sending someone a package deal. They both had chances to do it. Shane just did it better...a lot better.
Well, it was a heck of a lot more exciting than watching Oscar D. and Jason Klatt duke it out for almost three hours in a 9-ball race to 9 at Turning Stone last month.
Normal table + long sets + world-class talent = plenty of excitement for this spectator. The best player always emerges no matter what size pockets are used. This weekend would have ended the same with the TAR rails, the Fatboy rails, or the new Diamond rails... regardless of what Mr. Dechaine says.
Normal table + long sets + world-class talent = plenty of excitement for this spectator. The best player always emerges no matter what size pockets are used. This weekend would have ended the same with the TAR rails, the Fatboy rails, or the new Diamond rails... regardless of what Mr. Dechaine says.
True, this is why Dennis, Busty and Archer won.... I think in 10 ball only... Busty beat SVB; Archer beat SVB; then Busty beat Archer.... (all on with the Fatboy rails I believe... there was a lot of play to those matches)
Mike beat Hatch... So in the "king of the hill thing"... Busty vs Mike was probably correct on the flow chart. Shane was a good stand in, though...
In the best of 3 races format: Busty 2-0, Archer 1-1, Mike 1-1, Shane 1-2 and Hatch 0-1
Is that everyone that was in the loop ... not sure (?!)
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My take on the pockets is that for the current format the standard pockets are the way to go.
If we can get one of the philipinos or another great champ to pony up the cash to play a TAR match with Shane with the FatBoy rails then that will be a feat to watch.
If we can get one of the philipinos or another great champ to pony up the cash to play a TAR match with Shane with the FatBoy rails then that will be a feat to watch.
NOT on fatboys rails
OK... then it WAS on the TAR table in a tighter set up than 4.5 ... because when I asked Busty about it... " man... tightest table I played on in a long time... " then with a smile ".. too old for that.. "
I am unsure what happened to the rails between the Busty, Archer, Shane matches and the Daz match .. put it did seem to play different...
Glen - do you know?
That's silly. Best player at the time, not best player of all time. On any given day, any of these guys might beat any of the others. That is what is usually meant by, "Let the best man win".
I was quoting you..
..so your saying Mike could beat SVB next week, if they played the same format again, and it just wasn't his day?
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I voted to keep the tighter pockets on the TAR table....And after talking with Mike at DCC, he felt he had a greater advantage with the tight pockets! Had they been used, Mike would have lost by an even greater margin IMO.
But what I would like to know is this...How many people purchased TAR 31 and how many of those voted in Justin's 'should the rails stay or go' thread. Because I am thinking LOTS of people voted who have never watched a TAR match, didn't purchase TAR 31, and will most likely not purchase the next one either, thus skewing the results of the final tally. I am an avid TAR ppv purchaser and supporter who feels others like me possibly should have a louder voice.
Someone start a poll...
But what I would like to know is this...How many people purchased TAR 31 and how many of those voted in Justin's 'should the rails stay or go' thread. Because I am thinking LOTS of people voted who have never watched a TAR match, didn't purchase TAR 31, and will most likely not purchase the next one either, thus skewing the results of the final tally. I am an avid TAR ppv purchaser and supporter who feels others like me possibly should have a louder voice.
Someone start a poll...
If Mike practiced his break 10 hours a day like he says he needs to, if he got the momentum going and put together a sizeable enough package to get in Shane's head, if he paid enough attention to Shane's game to get a bead on its weaknesses, if he played at his own pace instead of letting Shane dictate it, etc....?
Yes. Mike knew he was playing poorly, while Shane said he played the best 10-ball be had played in a while. It's very easy for these two things to be reversed and give MD the edge.
It's a moot point, anyway. I'd hazard a guess that there is close to zero interest in seeing these two match up in the TAR studio again.
I voted to go to the standard pockets and I also bought both nights of TAR 31 and a couple others as well. I won't buy every one in the future, so maybe my vote should be prorated.
I personally felt it was a bit boring to be honest. I really enjoy the TAR matches and purchase many of them but it was just a run out fest for Shane torturing Mike (I did enjoy seeing Mike humbled slightly). I think Shane playing these guys 10 ball is so lopsided most of the time and blowouts are not exciting. More players could challenge him playing 9 ball, Darren for one would have had a better shot. I know some of you enjoy just seeing someone run out but I prefer to see the players challenged by tough equipment with it keeping you on the edge of your seat whether they will actually run out or not, no shot is easy on those tight tables so you appreciate the run outs even more. I think 4.25 would have been the way to go, you can play any game on those size pockets, they are fair but you still have to hit the ball really well.
This is just my opinion of course and some will agree and I know others really enjoyed watching break and runs but I like watching the strategy the players use on the tight table whether to shoot or duck. I have grown a bit bored of watching Shane all the time but understand his ties with TAR and that he is a good seller but since its not gambling anymore why not get some new faces in there like Rodney, Stevie or Darren, any combination of those three guys who are all in Las Vegas right now. I am sure those guys would take less money being in Vegas already and who would not want to watch Rodney play Darren a set of 9 ball or 10 ball? I will say this much the commentary is very good, I enjoy listening to Jeremy and Robert in the booth. I look forward to watching an all around match, and if it has to be Shane again then maybe Shane vs Darren again playing one pocket, 8 ball and 9 ball which would be a closer match up.
This is just my opinion of course and some will agree and I know others really enjoyed watching break and runs but I like watching the strategy the players use on the tight table whether to shoot or duck. I have grown a bit bored of watching Shane all the time but understand his ties with TAR and that he is a good seller but since its not gambling anymore why not get some new faces in there like Rodney, Stevie or Darren, any combination of those three guys who are all in Las Vegas right now. I am sure those guys would take less money being in Vegas already and who would not want to watch Rodney play Darren a set of 9 ball or 10 ball? I will say this much the commentary is very good, I enjoy listening to Jeremy and Robert in the booth. I look forward to watching an all around match, and if it has to be Shane again then maybe Shane vs Darren again playing one pocket, 8 ball and 9 ball which would be a closer match up.
Loved the 4.5 inch pockets. This is what rotation pool looks like when you have a champion player. Mike wanted tighter pockets but still missed many shots. SVB vs anyone I'm in.
4 1/4" was not an option. I might have voted that way, as long as the pocket angles were the ones Diamond uses (140° IIRC). Better yet is the 10' table with standard 4 1/2" pockets, but I ain't holding my breath on that one.
I don't care what the pocket size is Mike does not win a race to 100 with Shane he's clearly outclassed he needs to come down to reality and work on his game but more importantly his attitude
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If Mike is smart he'll use this as a wake-up call. He says he wants to be a world-class player. He just got horse f------ by one.
It's no secret how much Shane works on his game. If Mike or anyone else wants to beat Shane, they have to put in as much or more work than Shane does.