terrible news, about the TV thing

Fatboy

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i pitched the TV idea to my guy in the TV industry, before I went to Germany-he wass working on some Paula Abdual thing-he said she is a mess, anyways he had a plan to do it at a cool spot like Planet hollywood, or Hard Rock and pitched it -to ALOT of people(studios etc i dont know exacyly who, but he said he pitched it over 20 times everyone hated it) ZERO interest, he said he loved it and worked hard to get a bite then I dont know the industry terms but get a tape then create a story line etc then a show etc, i was pissed, so was he. Hollywood hates pool.

I wasnt going to take this, so i have convinced him to do a charcater based show like the fatss vs mosconi-he is very aware of it-saw it as a kid and remembers it well, I said charcters and bales of 100 bills on a special will cross over with poker,

I also need my secret weapon to please email me, i didnt mention any names, JAY HELP ME HERE!!!!!!

i told him about tooth and me and Mataya and jay in the booth, he wants to het a high 24 camera and get some footage of the $$$ charcters etc. and then go re-pitch it explaining it crosses over with poker, AND POKER HAS KILLED POOL, but poker is losing its market share on TV so on the backside of poker we have a show.


now yesterday someone very nicely said I talk about my $$$ on here to much, he was very cool, i told him there was a reason, here is my reason, 1. i'm proud of what i did rags to riches-who wouldnt be. but more importantly i know its boaring for regulars, i never try and put it in anyones face, i'm a grounded regular guy that dresses bad and aint fancy, the reason i mention the $$$ is people come and go, I want to create a charcter-myself(online) like Tooth has in the pool rooms. I was doing this with the intent of this show. not to make people feel lessere than me cause nobody is, i aint nobody special, i dont count other peoples $$$ i base who i like on who they are not $$$, color, well a nice azz helps ifyour a girl ;)

back to business, were getting a camera-i'm buying one and comming to a pool room near you, i need serious charcters not actors on taape, like Rudedog said"i'm going down swinging" they aint gonna close the door on us-pool players that fast.
 
Hang in there

Hang in there! I think it safe to say that everyone is rooting for you.

Hu
 
What really made me mad is how fast everyone reactedd to his pitch he said the second he mentioned pool, the door closed so to speak. That means we aint gonna have a sequil to CoM anytime soon, Hollywood hates pool(junkies didnt help) is what my friend concluded, he said he hasnt got shot down on any other ideas so fast, he pitches alot of concepts, shows etc and only a very small % ever amount to anything, but he couldnt believe how negitative EVERYONE was. He is not a acting school wanna be, he produces, sells, pitches, directs alot of TV shows and makes solid $$$-my point being he is real in the land of fake people Hollywood. When I told him my idea he loved it and was sold right then.

Were gonna get some video of players who are charcters-tooth as an example-he might not go for it I havent asked him, I'm just using him as an example because he is colourful, or mike massey, not guys that will put the audience to sleep, if we find the right guys and get some good video we might have something to sell, if not were dead.
 
I like it, Fatboy. Keep it up, the industry needs it. Consider Keith as your "character"! Good luck! :p
 
I hate to tell you this Fatboy

Fatboy said:
What really made me mad is how fast everyone reactedd to his pitch he said the second he mentioned pool, the door closed so to speak. That means we aint gonna have a sequil to CoM anytime soon, Hollywood hates pool(junkies didnt help) is what my friend concluded, he said he hasnt got shot down on any other ideas so fast, he pitches alot of concepts, shows etc and only a very small % ever amount to anything, but he couldnt believe how negitative EVERYONE was. He is not a acting school wanna be, he produces, sells, pitches, directs alot of TV shows and makes solid $$$-my point being he is real in the land of fake people Hollywood. When I told him my idea he loved it and was sold right then.

Were gonna get some video of players who are charcters-tooth as an example-he might not go for it I havent asked him, I'm just using him as an example because he is colourful, or mike massey, not guys that will put the audience to sleep, if we find the right guys and get some good video we might have something to sell, if not were dead.

But a few years ago an independent filmmaker wanted to do the same kind of thing and was very enthusiastic. He was hired by HBO to go to the DCC and produce a product and if they liked it they would buy it and put it on.
They filmed in Kentucky for about a week. Ironicaly it started out when Ronnie Allen and I were together on the same plane and that is where he started his filming. On and getting off the plane. He recognized Ronnie and figured that was a good start. During that week they filmed more woofing and matching up for a lifetime, intertwined with game film of action. I would have loved to have seen that project come to fruition but it appears it has died somewhere as I have not seen hide nor hair of anything that came out of that week of filming. I forget the guys name but he was from Hollywood somewhere. They did some great professional filming. I guess HBO didn't like it, but it is hard to believe considering some of the garbage they put out to fill space. Keep trying though, someday people will realize the entertainment aspect of pool.
 
nfty9er said:
But a few years ago an independent filmmaker wanted to do the same kind of thing and was very enthusiastic. He was hired by HBO to go to the DCC and produce a product and if they liked it they would buy it and put it on.
They filmed in Kentucky for about a week. Ironicaly it started out when Ronnie Allen and I were together on the same plane and that is where he started his filming. On and getting off the plane. He recognized Ronnie and figured that was a good start. During that week they filmed more woofing and matching up for a lifetime, intertwined with game film of action. I would have loved to have seen that project come to fruition but it appears it has died somewhere as I have not seen hide nor hair of anything that came out of that week of filming. I forget the guys name but he was from Hollywood somewhere. They did some great professional filming. I guess HBO didn't like it, but it is hard to believe considering some of the garbage they put out to fill space. Keep trying though, someday people will realize the entertainment aspect of pool.

I would think that one of the drawbacks with a project like this is that some of the "characters" might not want their "action" on film. All those stacks of hundreds might attract some unwanted attention. I'm not in that industry, but I understand getting releases signed is a very tricky part of filming documentaries.

I hope fatboy and the aforementioned filmmaker stick it out and eventually are successful in getting some airtime.

I firmly believe that pool can be successful on TV if it's done right and we can catch a break.

MM
 
rayjay said:
I like it, Fatboy. Keep it up, the industry needs it. Consider Keith as your "character"! Good luck! :p

Keith would be great-we all know that. What I need to do is get together with Jay Helfert and figure out who we have here in LA and get some convenient video, Mataya is a great announcer I can send my hollywood guy a youtube link on that 2004 or 2005 DCC 10 ball ring game so he can hear him, he had some good stuff in parts of that show. If Keith is out here a few minutes of him would be great or if tooth comes down, We done even need great players-editing can fix that we need personalitys that are natural not actors, like keith in CoM he was just Keith it was brilliant. Were not dead yet. But I cant understand why hollywood hates pool it has a very similar demographic as poker, we want to do a show that is a Special that runs every 3 or 6 months not a tournment or 12 episode reality show. I just dont get their hatred of pool. What I learned is bad news for all of us. But I'm still trying and will update.
 
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