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Autist

Autist

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Hello there!


I see AZers often refer to someone as an A player, C player, and so on.

I've read the descriptions as to what they mean, and I can classify myself by those criterias. But not with real accuracy.

Are there any tests I could do, to classify myself with very good accuracy?

Doing these tests and marking down the results would also be a good benchmark to compare myself in 3 or 6 months from now.


I know that most of AZers here are from the USA. Do you guys over there use the PAT test? To be able to play in the highest league in my country, you have to take PAT test 2, and top 15 or 16 are able to compete in the league.

I don't feel like taking the PAT test at the moment.

What I am looking for is a more simple test, or a battery of tests.

Any suggestions?


Thanks!

- Margus
 
Autist said:
Hello there!


I see AZers often refer to someone as an A player, C player, and so on.

I've read the descriptions as to what they mean, and I can classify myself by those criterias. But not with real accuracy.

Are there any tests I could do, to classify myself with very good accuracy?

Doing these tests and marking down the results would also be a good benchmark to compare myself in 3 or 6 months from now.


I know that most of AZers here are from the USA. Do you guys over there use the PAT test? To be able to play in the highest league in my country, you have to take PAT test 2, and top 15 or 16 are able to compete in the league.

I don't feel like taking the PAT test at the moment.

What I am looking for is a more simple test, or a battery of tests.

Any suggestions?


Thanks!

- Margus
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Play in a C tournament. If you win easily, you are a B or above. If you lose or struggle to win, you are a C player. Once you have gotten yourself kicked out of the C tournaments, play in a B tournament, if you win easily, you are an A or above. If you lose or struggle to win, you are a B player. After you are finished with the B tournaments, you will more than likely not care what letter you are.

If you don't have ABC rankings where you live, don't worry about it, its just something that people use to stroke their ego/beg for a handicap.
 
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Thanks for the reply.

The thing is, I feel like this is the time in my "pool life" when I get the most "aha" moments and development is the most rapid.

I am playing 2-4 times a week with a player that is a lot better than me. Helps my game a lot.

I would like to set a mark right now to compare my progress in the future. That's why I am asking if there are any good tests :)
 
Masayoshi said:
Play in a C tournament. If you win easily, you are a B or above. If you lose or struggle to win, you are a C player. Once you have gotten yourself kicked out of the C tournaments, play in a B tournament, if you win easily, you are an A or above. If you lose or struggle to win, you are a B player. After you are finished with the B tournaments, you will more than likely not care what letter you are.

If you don't have ABC rankings where you live, don't worry about it, its just something that people use to stroke their ego/beg for a handicap.
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Hehe Masayoshi^^
agree here at some point :)

If we are talkin about the PAT Series-- i use these tests just to determine weaknesses or dis-abilities. Imo the series still make sense (better said many tests where you have a *result* of points etc). Practicing with kind of these player-ability-tests should force a player to keep focus while training/practicing-and to rate himself. Furthermore the result shows him if he increased his skills etc.
But to put some kind of competition into practice and training is useful.

Autist- structured practice and doing drills with the necessary concentration must be learned also :)

keep shooting!

lg
Ingo
 
Masayoshi said:
If you don't have ABC rankings where you live, don't worry about it, its just something that people use to stroke their ego/beg for a handicap.
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Yeah...I'm a AAA player. But when I gamble, I'm only a D player.
 
Autist said:
Hello there!


I see AZers often refer to someone as an A player, C player, and so on.

I've read the descriptions as to what they mean, and I can classify myself by those criterias. But not with real accuracy.

Are there any tests I could do, to classify myself with very good accuracy?

Doing these tests and marking down the results would also be a good benchmark to compare myself in 3 or 6 months from now.


I know that most of AZers here are from the USA. Do you guys over there use the PAT test? To be able to play in the highest league in my country, you have to take PAT test 2, and top 15 or 16 are able to compete in the league.

I don't feel like taking the PAT test at the moment.

What I am looking for is a more simple test, or a battery of tests.

Any suggestions?


Thanks!

- Margus
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Not to hijack your thread but what are the PAT tests? thanks
 
Houstoer said:
Not to hijack your thread but what are the PAT tests? thanks
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Thats quite alright my friend.


PAT stands for Playing Ability Test. It has 3 different levels.

The official webpage is http://www.pat-billiard.com/.

Without registering you can see demos of the tests. By registering, you get free access to full versions to PAT tests, all three different levels, in .pdf format.

The webpage also has a database, I believe almost all European pros have done the test and are ranked in the database.


Cheers!


- Margus.
 
As a alternative to the IPAT's you may want to try Joe Tuckers Guaranteed Improvement. It is a series of drills that you do and at the end of each drill you tally up your score and record it. It has a chart that places you from A-D depending on your score for that drill.

It is also a excellent tool for improving your game so its a win win for you. Hope that helps.

P.S. I also think that the IPAT's are a good tool but after you get used to the drills it looses some effectiveness as a measure of your skill.
 
this a link to allen hopkins q skill test
basically 15 balls break em open
run as many as you can last 5 remaining balls in rotation
(there are options if you dont like your initial cue ball starting point)
score 1 point per ball 2 points last 5 balls
total score for 10 racks gives you an idea of level
chart for score levels given in link
http://billiards.colostate.edu/PBReview/HopkinsQSkill.htm

ive seen a variation for 9 ball but cant find the link
 
There is this thing called playing the ghost. You are basically playing a player that does not miss.

Break a rack of whatever game usually 9-10-8 ball, take ball-in-hand. If you don't run out, you lose that rack. You can mark down the number of balls you made before you miss if you are not good enough yet to run though several racks this way to keep track of your progress.

Play say 10 racks against the ghost a day after practice or whatever. As you get better, you will run more racks, or at least make more balls in a rack before you miss. More fun than just doing drills and will get you the same progress report if you track this for a while.
 
Autist said:
I see AZers often refer to someone as an A player, C player, and so on.

I've read the descriptions as to what they mean, and I can classify myself by those criterias. But not with real accuracy.

Are there any tests I could do, to classify myself with very good accuracy?
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Several different fairly easy tests can be found here:

Enjoy,
Dave
 
Here's a simple test to figure out your nine ball skill:
Break and take ball in hand and run until you miss. Count the total balls made (including ones on the break).
Play about ten or twenty racks and figure your average balls made per rack.
Where I play, your skill would be as follows:
(may be different based on the skill of players in your area)

Avg 3-4 balls per rack - C player
Avg 5-6 balls per rack - B player
Avg 7-8 balls per rack - A player
Avg close to 9 balls per rack - Pro

(Note that using a magic rack will increase your score significantly due to the wing ball dropping nearly everytime. )

Vic
 
My view...break rack,..b.i.h....based on 14.1
c player can average5-9 balls
B player ave. 8-14,break..5-8 more
bplus ave.14,break..14, break..few more
A minus, 2-4 racks
A, 5 racks once in a while.
AA, 100 balls once or twice in life
 
FYI, a similar and more detailed version of this sort of thing, with a log sheet, can be viewed and printed here:

Regards,
Dave

victorl said:
Here's a simple test to figure out your nine ball skill:
Break and take ball in hand and run until you miss. Count the total balls made (including ones on the break).
Play about ten or twenty racks and figure your average balls made per rack.
Where I play, your skill would be as follows:
(may be different based on the skill of players in your area)

Avg 3-4 balls per rack - C player
Avg 5-6 balls per rack - B player
Avg 7-8 balls per rack - A player
Avg close to 9 balls per rack - Pro

(Note that using a magic rack will increase your score significantly due to the wing ball dropping nearly everytime. )

Vic
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I found out where I was weak in a hurry with Joe Tuckers dvds.
Wish I was able to work on my game every day instead of playing an hour or two a month.
 
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