thank you to CJ Wiley for teaching, learning, growing and sharing!

[SpiderWebComm]

Thanks for the 'threat', Dave.

I'm not feeding anyone today.

PS Your quote of my post is a partial quote without indicating such & leaves out much even cutting off in mid sentence. I'd suggest that anyone interested read my post in full.

Threat? LOL. Not me pardner. You were warned TWICE by admin. I just reminded you of it.

PS to your BS-PS: You can play your favorite "word games" with everyone else but don't even think of doing it with me. Everything that I wanted to quote from your post is copy and pasted exactly as it was written by you. The remainder that I didn't post was pure drivel as far as I'm concerned.

The one sentence I didn't complete is a moot point and anything could have followed. What I did leave remaining is straight from your post which is this: "Some also don't seem to see the hypocrisy in themselves" . And you evidently don't SEE the HYPOCRISY in yourself when it comes to saying "You're not force feeding anyone. If they don't like you for whatever reason, they can just skip right over you posts & those of whom are communicating with you."

Who is force feeding CTE to you? Everybody who understands and uses CTE wishes you would just shrivel up and fly away already. So why aren't you just skipping over the posts, staying completely out of the threads, and not engaging (I mean trolling and stalking) all the people who are communicating about it?!

Let's play one of your word games with correct spelling. Can you say and spell, HYPOCRITE RICK?

 

[Mikjary]

Hey, great self description of your arrogant ego that really does no one any good.

But you get a gold star on your forehead for the HYPOCRISY part when describing force feeding and if they don't like someone can skip right over the posts and those of whom are communicating with others of like minds.

The hypocrisy is you don't take YOUR OWN ADVICE when it comes to anything regarding CTE, Stan, and those who GET IT. You can just skip over the posts and stay out of it. So, DO IT without being told by admin. you'll get banned if you don't.

Dave,

I get it that you are upset with him, but this is a thanking CJ thread. That's what I took his post to be about. And please, I don't think it's appropriate to bring a CTE debate into this appreciation thread.

There're plenty of other places you can speak your mind. I don't really want to read it here. Thanks.

Best,
Mike

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Dave,

I get it that you are upset with him, but this is a thanking CJ thread. That's what I took his post to be about. And please, I don't think it's appropriate to bring a CTE debate into this appreciation thread.

There're plenty of other places you can speak your mind. I don't really want to read it here. Thanks.

Best,
Mike

You're 100% correct. His post to CJ was well written and I appreciated much of what he said to him. However, sometimes you just have to pick your spots in an attempt to get something across to this guy especially when he sets himself up for it the way he did.

My apologies to YOU Mike as well as CJ. It would be great if there were more pro players like him sharing knowledge with everyone.

Back to regular programming

 

[ENGLISH!]

Threat? LOL. Not me pardner. You were warned TWICE by admin. I just reminded you of it.

PS to your BS-PS: You can play your favorite "word games" with everyone else but don't even think of doing it with me. Everything that I wanted to quote from your post is copy and pasted exactly as it was written by you. The remainder that I didn't post was pure drivel as far as I'm concerned.

The one sentence I didn't complete is a moot point and anything could have followed. What I did leave remaining is straight from your post which is this: "Some also don't seem to see the hypocrisy in themselves" . And you evidently don't SEE the HYPOCRISY in yourself when it comes to saying "You're not force feeding anyone. If they don't like you for whatever reason, they can just skip right over you posts & those of whom are communicating with you."

Who is force feeding CTE to you? Everybody who understands and uses CTE wishes you would just shrivel up and fly away already. So why aren't you just skipping over the posts, staying completely out of the threads, and not engaging (I mean trolling and stalking) all the people who are communicating about it?!

Let's play one of your word games with correct spelling. Can you say and spell, HYPOCRITE RICK?

Dave,

You can quote verbatim & leave off what you wish.

You can quote verbatim out of context.

You can quote verbatim while mixing contexts in the same paragraph.

You can play any word games you wish.

You can take out the years before I came along out on me.

You can do whatever you wish.

But...I'm still not feeding anyone today.

 

[CJ Wiley]

"THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY" - and such is life, it's prudent to get directions

It's okay, bud, you are offering good advice, not only to Rick, to everyone. Have you ever ask directions from a "local" then argued about the route? Neither have I!!!

The issue with CTE is it works, yet it's not easy to describe the process unless a player has a "map". There are some things the human mind can do that is impossible to explain to some people, easier with others and 10% will never understand.

The beauty of Stan's system and some of the ones I use is it's NOT something that requires thought, it requires action. Stan showed my the CTE system in Tunica Miss and it worked immediately, only because it matched the "map" of my existing subconscious. It fit the geometry of the pool table in other words. It wasn't esoteric.

When a player doesn't posses the "map" chances are there will be some times you have to stop and ask directions (like hunting for a bar in a small town).

Remember, when it comes to CTE, TOI, and TIP "THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY" - and such is life, it's prudent to understand direction first, then drive.

You're 100% correct. His post to CJ was well written and I appreciated much of what he said to him. However, sometimes you just have to pick your spots in an attempt to get something across to this guy especially when he sets himself up for it the way he did.

My apologies to YOU Mike as well as CJ. It would be great if there were more pro players like him sharing knowledge with everyone.

Back to regular programming

 

[ENGLISH!]

It's okay, bud, you are offering good advice, not only to Rick, to everyone. Have you ever ask directions from a "local" then argued about the route? Neither have I!!!

The issue with CTE is it works, yet it's not easy to describe the process unless a player has a "map". There are some things the human mind can do that is impossible to explain to some people, easier with others and 10% will never understand.

The beauty of Stan's system and some of the ones I use is it's NOT something that requires thought, it requires action. Stan showed my the CTE system in Tunica Miss and it worked immediately, only because it matched the "map" of my existing subconscious. It fit the geometry of the pool table in other words. It wasn't esoteric.

When a player doesn't posses the "map" chances are there will be some times you have to stop and ask directions (like hunting for a bar in a small town).

Remember, when it comes to CTE, TOI, and TIP "THE MAP IS NOT THE TERRITORY" - and such is life, it's prudent to understand direction first, then drive.

CJ,

I would ask you a couple of questions regarding this post, but I've basically been banned by Mike from discussing the 'nature' of CTE.

I'd just like to point out that I have never said that CTE can not or does not work as it obviously can & does.

It's the affirmations of the how & why it works that I & others do not agree.

Best 2 Y'a,
Rick

PS Perhaps I'll PM you with those questions.

 

[CJ Wiley]

This is what many call "sectional aiming," and I have always done it

CJ,

I would ask you a couple of questions regarding this post, but I've basically been banned by Mike from discussing the 'nature' of CTE.

I'd just like to point out that I have never said that CTE can not or does not work as it obviously can & does.

It's the affirmations of the how & why it works that I & others do not agree.

Best 2 Y'a,
Rick

PS Perhaps I'll PM you with those questions.

Rick, have you seen my 'ultimate aiming system"?

It may be easier to understand, and it's effective.

With my version, I use a specific spot on the cue ball to line up to the center of edge of the object ball. This is what many call "sectional aiming," and I have always done it (subconsciously).

The TOI is not an aiming system, unless they refer to aiming at the cue ball, instead of aiming at the object ball. The TOI makes the pocket zone bigger, much like drawing or fading a golf ball.

 

[ENGLISH!]

Rick, have you seen my 'ultimate aiming system"?

It may be easier to understand, and it's effective.

With my version, I use a specific spot on the cue ball to line up to the center of edge of the object ball. This is what many call "sectional aiming," and I have always done it (subconsciously).

The TOI is not an aiming system, unless they refer to aiming at the cue ball, instead of aiming at the object ball. The TOI makes the pocket zone bigger, much like drawing or fading a golf ball.

Thanks CJ,

Yes. I've seen your aiming method on the DVD. In fact, I was just discussing it with a 30 something year old player just the other day.

It's on that shelf in case I ever need to bring it down.

I agree & would not call TOI an 'aiming system'. IMO, It's more of a complete method or style of playing the game. I'm using it but have gotten away from it a bit while I'm trying to adapt to using my newly found, through Gene Albrecht, 'dominant' eye . I'll get back to using it more full bore shortly.

Thanks again & Best 2 Ya,
Rick

 

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TOI video

I just watched the TOI video and really liked it. I tried to put it into practice and had a couple of questions.

1. I tried doing a parallel shift then shooting straight through but this did not work. It put a little inside English on the cue ball and threw the object ball a little but not enough.
2. I did the same parallel shift (both bridge hand and back hand equally) then from this new position on the cue ball I re-aimed at the center or edge of the ball and shot straight through. This worked much better but did not really seem to be putting much, if any, English on the cue ball. That is fine with me (less spin the better). As an aiming system I like it as I am consistently aiming at a know spot on the object ball (center or edge). It just doesn't seem like I am doing it the way you describe since I am not really putting English on the ball or throwing the object ball, I am just aiming it a different way.

The other question I have is about a constant speed. It seems there are so many different speeds required I don't seem to be able to manage that. I am trying to move up and down the cue ball to speed up or slow down, etc. but there are just a lot of soft touch shots and thin cuts, etc. There is such a difference in the speed of the cue ball following a 3/4 ball hit and a 1/4 ball hit I don't see how a common speed stroke can be achieved. What am I missing?

 

[CJ Wiley]

Try watching it one more time and contact me,

I just watched the TOI video and really liked it. I tried to put it into practice and had a couple of questions.

1. I tried doing a parallel shift then shooting straight through but this did not work. It put a little inside English on the cue ball and threw the object ball a little but not enough.
2. I did the same parallel shift (both bridge hand and back hand equally) then from this new position on the cue ball I re-aimed at the center or edge of the ball and shot straight through. This worked much better but did not really seem to be putting much, if any, English on the cue ball. That is fine with me (less spin the better). As an aiming system I like it as I am consistently aiming at a know spot on the object ball (center or edge). It just doesn't seem like I am doing it the way you describe since I am not really putting English on the ball or throwing the object ball, I am just aiming it a different way.

The other question I have is about a constant speed. It seems there are so many different speeds required I don't seem to be able to manage that. I am trying to move up and down the cue ball to speed up or slow down, etc. but there are just a lot of soft touch shots and thin cuts, etc. There is such a difference in the speed of the cue ball following a 3/4 ball hit and a 1/4 ball hit I don't see how a common speed stroke can be achieved. What am I missing?

I recommend you watch the video a few more times. You've got the right idea, however, you really should have a consistent shot speed. I say that many times, you can't "slow roll" balls with TOI and I have best results by accelerating as much as possible at the moment of contact. Few players do this as well as they could, and I'd make sure to use a consistent speed. It's better to use a shot speed that's higher, than lower.

Try watching it one more time and contact me, there's a lot on that DVD, and it may take 4-5 times to process the details. I wrote the script and it was close to 20 pages long, so give yourself some time to digest, absorb and process the information.

Play Well.

 

[skipbales]

Thanks

I am reviewing all 4 cds and working with it a little at a time.

 

[CJ Wiley]

I'm free to answer any and all questions as they come up either here or by PM.

I am reviewing all 4 cds and working with it a little at a time.

That's cool, there's well over 5 hours of knowledge and techniques.

My suggestion is to study the 'Ultimate Pool Secrets' it has the foundation to make your TOI the most effective.

The order of DVDs is important:

1) Ultimate Pool Secrets has a strong pre-shot routine fundamental and aiming section

2) Billiards Inside Secrets shows the more advanced stoking technique and drills to maximize all your body's components individually.

3) TOI is an advanced, over-all playing system utilizing all of 1 and 2.

4) TIP Banking Secrets is 43 Chapters on how to use the Touch of Inside Pivot System for all banks, and safeties that come up in pocket billiard games.

I'm free to answer any and all questions as they come up either here or by PM.

Play Well.