The Best Cue Case Period

[rogerb]

All good points, but unless your case is made with a high tech material like carbon fiber inserts or kevlar , then the basic materials are the same and offer the same protection (plastic, felt, leather, wood ends, etc) . It comes down to craftsmanship but not more protection . i do travel with my cues and the baggage systems are not luggage friendly, The more straps, studs, etc on a case the more chance of a jam, resulting in lost and or damaged cases and whats in them. The cases that this thread is about, er before it drifted into national policy will at least fit in a larger suitcase which is the next best thing to a pelican type case.

P.S. my travel case is PVC pipe . one cap glued on , the other threaded , my case fits nicely in it and it cost me less than 10.00, a trick I learned from anglers at the airport traveling with orvis flyrods that cost as much or more than our cues do.

 

[01rkclassic]

One man's patriotism is another man's bigotry I guess. What do you care the reasons someone has for buying or not buying something? What makes you the arbiter of who is a bigot because of how they choose to spend their money?

You call people who choose to support American craftsmen a bigot. I think someone who pays American craftsmen prices for import work is a fool.

I'll be the bigot.

You be the fool.

very well said

 

[Hit Man]

off shore cases

What gets me is that how many of you would be willing to buy and carry around one of these cases with a nice Schick or Szamboti inside it. That's not right, you're just not well in the head. You might as well go and buy the cue from over there to go with it! The cases may be very well made indeed, but in my estimation, deserving of nothing more than a Cuetec.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

What gets me is that how many of you would be willing to buy and carry around one of these cases with a nice Schick or Szamboti inside it. That's not right, you're just not well in the head. You might as well go and buy the cue from over there to go with it! The cases may be very well made indeed, but in my estimation, deserving of nothing more than a Cuetec.

Amen but I think your are,

your observations are so true, and I see it all the time.

Guy has a fine American made custom cue costing $750.00-$1,000.00++++, and he is carry his prize around in some POS Cae made in who know where? that set him back $39.95 on flea bay.

People are funny.

 

[poolmouse]

Other than FAIR WAGES, what is the advantage of haveing them made in China. JIm

Profit.

Not sure if a person will be able to resell this case later. "For sale, Chinese poolstick case".

Poolmouse

 

[01rkclassic]

so true

Amen but I think your are,

your observations are so true, and I see it all the time.

Guy has a fine American made custom cue costing $750.00-$1,000.00++++, and he is carry his prize around in some POS Cae made in who know where? that set him back $39.95 on flea bay.

People are funny.

so very true cocobolocowboy,thats why i try and give my boy's a good home

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[classiccues]

Oh the irony....

I will be getting one of these cases to look at and critique tomorrow. I will critique the case and the workmanship. Leaving the politics for this post. I want to point out that I am pro-American. I also want to point out that when all avenues are exhausted, I am for doing whatever is necessary for feeding my family. (Hence I occasionally hire illegals, for prevailing wage) I just got sick of waiting for people who want to work. I pay them what I would pay an American to do the same job. So that being said after reading this thread and understanding both sides I just want to point out a few things...

- Palmer cues from the PM/PB series were made over seas.. and they are becoming collectible

- Adam cases in the Fellini style have been selling for 200-300 dollars as collectibles, also made in China

- Jayman.. you collect a cue that was made in China/Japan, maybe leading to the demise directly or indirectly of Palmer (FYI)

- Anything made in Canada is not American, Predator comes to mind

Cost of living.. JB you need to realize that no one is going to believe you when you say that your healthcare, housing and pay EQUALS or is comperable to what an American would make and have to spend. For all we know your housing means they spend 24 hours putting together cases with a roof over their head. Or that the medical costs are the same. I spend 800 dollars on my family insurance. Are you telling me thats what yours is? NOT saying well, when you figure it out with everything else its equal.. bla bla bla...

While the economy maybe globalized, the cost of living is not.

People buy over seas to save money. Thats it, plain and simple. We all go to Walmart, Home Depot and buy what we can afford, regardless of who made it.

JMHO..

JV

 

[dave sutton]

I know the folks had to come up with a manufacturer's suggested retail price, so I am not overly concerned about what seems to be somewhat high prices. The market will determine whether they are of a nice enough quality to command the full retail price, otherwise, you will see them significantly discounted. Personally, I hope that they are absolute killer quality like the old cases were. I think it is a great idea that someone is bringing back the old style cases. I love them for cue safety and compact size.
Joe

WELL SAID..........................................


I DONT UNDERSATND THE PROBLEM. IF PPL LIKE THE CASE THEY BUY THEM . IF NOT, THEY WONT.

 

[dave sutton]

yeah but what about the french fries?

FREEDOM FRIES!!!!!!

 

[dave sutton]

French fries??? What are these French fries of which you speak?

Where I come from we eat:


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IM SOO LATE... I THOUGH I WAS ORIGINAL.

U BEAT ME TOO IT

 

[half fast bankr]

Good lord!

Yeah, I remember back in '62, right around the time of the Cuban Missile crisis. Some Russian bastard up around Brooklyn wanted to sell me a cue for something like $150. Now that may not sound like much, but I assure you, it was a bunch back then. Anyway, I know you guys are with me when I told that commie to go to hell, I'm a proud Amurikan! Then I smashed one of his accordians on the way out!

and now you're all seeking out his products like the Holy Grail itself!!!

 

[jayman]

I will be getting one of these cases to look at and critique tomorrow. I will critique the case and the workmanship. Leaving the politics for this post. I want to point out that I am pro-American. I also want to point out that when all avenues are exhausted, I am for doing whatever is necessary for feeding my family. (Hence I occasionally hire illegals, for prevailing wage) I just got sick of waiting for people who want to work. I pay them what I would pay an American to do the same job. So that being said after reading this thread and understanding both sides I just want to point out a few things...

- Palmer cues from the PM/PB series were made over seas.. and they are becoming collectible

- Adam cases in the Fellini style have been selling for 200-300 dollars as collectibles, also made in China

- Jayman.. you collect a cue that was made in China/Japan, maybe leading to the demise directly or indirectly of Palmer (FYI)

- Anything made in Canada is not American, Predator comes to mind

Cost of living.. JB you need to realize that no one is going to believe you when you say that your healthcare, housing and pay EQUALS or is comperable to what an American would make and have to spend. For all we know your housing means they spend 24 hours putting together cases with a roof over their head. Or that the medical costs are the same. I spend 800 dollars on my family insurance. Are you telling me thats what yours is? NOT saying well, when you figure it out with everything else its equal.. bla bla bla...

While the economy maybe globalized, the cost of living is not.

People buy over seas to save money. Thats it, plain and simple. We all go to Walmart, Home Depot and buy what we can afford, regardless of who made it.

JMHO..

JV

No I dont collect cues made in china/japan. I collect cues made in japan. Japan is a true friend of freedom. china is no friend at all. the two are worlds apart! china sucks! Richard helmstetter would not apreciate that association at all!
USING CHINNESE SLAVE LABOR INSTEAD OF PROVIDING AN AMERICAN CITIZEN A JOB, TO MANUFACTURE A PRODUCT, ONLY TO SHIPP IT BACK AND PUT AN AMERICAN COMPANY WHO CANT COMPETE WITH SLAVE LABOR WAGES OUT OF BUISNESS IS WRONG FOR AMERICA BAD FOR AMERICA AND SUCKS!!!!!!!!!
China is a real problem, japan is NOT china. they are our true friend and alie

 

[half fast bankr]

Just curious, who's killed more Americans, China or Japan?

I know, I shouldn't have, but it was right there!

 

[ribdoner]

Just curious, who's killed more Americans, China or Japan?

I know, I shouldn't have, but it was right there!

What do you think the answer will be going forward?

Adam<========very apprehensive about our planets ability to support the transformation of HUGE 3rd world countries into fossil fuel devouring and environmental polluting behemeths. Has anybody else wondered what will happen if the transformation occurs too quickly and technology is not in place to meet demands?

HOPE I'm full of crapp and dead wrong! (wouldn't be the first time...)

 

[half fast bankr]

Wow, discrimination based on the future instead of the past. Now that's working overtime!

"moving forward", ourselves killing ourselves would be the answer.

Devils advocate:

I've often wondered why 'we' were entitled to destroy the earth with our american endeavors, but now no other countries are allowed the same pursuits we faught so valiantly for. Is it fair that we produce a majority of pollution but will not allow other nations to even come close to our destrucitve levels simply because they were slower to join the industrial revolution? And if you were a member of some other country, and were told you cannot follow your own path, wouldn't you tell 'us' to go blow it out of our fat lazy arses?

Additionaly, as we move forward, remember 'who' we is. Humans. Earthlings. WE ARE ALL ONE. We are merely separated by imaginary lines in the sand. Whether anyone likes it or not, one day, in the not too distant future, we will all blend back into one man. It IS inevitable.

 

[GreenPoolChalk]

Support American Made Products

I have read about all of the posts in this thread, and it appears that someone in China wants to make a better Thomas, Fellini, Engles, Centennial type Cue case, and charge more for the imported clone than the only currently made one at a time by Ron Thomas in the USA.

No I am not wrapping the American Flag around Mr. Thomas but I do own one of his Cue Cases, and it bears his signature inside the top lid as proof of it being a Ron Thomas Case.

I do not understand why a Chinese Clone should cost what the real thing cost. But if I was to put my Thomas up for sale it would be gone fast as it is one of his Italian Signature Series leather cases with the friction fit top. The design needs no improvement in my opinion.

Think the only thing that Ron Thomas has missed out on for many years is having a web-site.

But if any of you pro American type wish to contact Ron Thomas here is his contact information.

Ron Thomas Cues Cases
105 Beatrice Avenue
Lafayette, Louisiana
70503-3101

(337) 254-8494

He don?t have a web site, he don?t answer e-mail real well, but he is a good guy to do business with, and if you got a problem with his case.

You don?t have to send it to the other end of the world to get fixed maybe.

If you call Ron directly you will get you Case built the way you want it, 1 x 2, 2 x 4, with or without pockets, pocket of configuration you want, suit case handle, or not, carry strap if want it. Like Burger King your way, your options, and made in the USA one at a time.

Ron even has one dealer I would recommend doing business with Dick Abbott at Billiards Cue dot com.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

 

[half fast bankr]

What you seemed to have missed is that this is not a clone. This is as much of a case as Ron's 'Fellini style" is, possibly more. It's just made offshore, like almost everything else in our world. And mentioning Dick Abbott won't make you any friends on here as he is likely the most overpriced dealer/broker in the biz...

 

[JCIN]

LOL @ "China is just big 'ol cuddly friendly panda bear...it don't wanna hurt the big 'ol mean 'ol US."

Hell, some people who I think are pretty savvy in the ways of the world and that part of it are convinnced that we ARE at war China. An economic cold war if you will, and a war for resources. Me? I don't know. But if there is one thing history teaches it is this. We will not all just get along. China wants what we have. If we want to keep what we have we will have to act. If not, just keep on chugging down the same path, one day we will be the sweat shop. Power is a zero sum game.

Personally, in the long run, I think the US is screwed. We have become too lazy, apathetic, and concerned with non issues. People have forgotten what was required for them to enjoy the bounty of freedom and saftey they currently enjoy.

This post has nothing to do with knock off cases from China....just thinking out loud.

 

[ribdoner]

Just curious, who's killed more Americans, China or Japan?
I know, I shouldn't have, but it was right there!

Depends on who you think we were fighting during the Vietnam and Korean "conflicts".

Is the answer so obvious now?